Ramba uchinyora ndima iyi - Kumudzimai waMüller, pashure pa1935 mamiriro ezvinhu muBerlin akawedzera kuipa. Pakazosvika nguva iyo vanakomana vake vakatama muna 1935 na1937, ukama pakati pevarume vaviri hwakanga hwaparara zvachose: vakanga vasingachatauri pamwe chete. Vose vakanga vaparadzanisa ukama hwose nechiJudha, muna 1929 (Max) uye 1930 (Ludwig), izvo zvingave zvakaita kuti zvive nyore kwavari kutiza nyika pavakaita. Nokuda kwaThekla zvaiita sokuti kwakanga kusina mubvunzo wokusiya Germany. Zvinetso zvisingaperi zvomutemo uye zvomunhu zvaibatanidza kubatana kwake nemabhizimisi omurume wake mushakabvu uye, zvamazvirokwazvo, vagovani vokunze vangadai vakaita kuti kutama kusarangarirwa. Mushure meNovember pogrom ya1938 (inozivikanwa mumanyuko mazhinji emutauro weChirungu se "Kristallnacht")
zvisinei, zvisingafungiki zvaifanira kuva zvinofungika. Kurwiswa kunoparadza zvinhu zvechiJudha muBerlin kwakatora mazuva maviri uye kwakasiya vaJudha vokuBerlin vanenge 400 vafa. Kusungwa nokudzingwa kwavanhu 26 000 kwakatevera nokukurumidza pashure pacho. VaJudha vokuGermany vaiva nemabhizimisi akanga aparadzwa vaifanira kubhadhara mari yokugadzirisa zvakanga zvaparadzwa, nepo inishuwarenzi dzavo dzakanga dzatorwa. Dzvinyiriro yokutama yakawedzera panguva imwe cheteyo sezvo chisarudzo chokutama chakava chinodhura zvikuru uye nokuda kwavanhu vazhinji chisingabviri, nemhaka yenhevedzano ye"mitero yokubuda" yokungofungira uye zvipingamupinyi zvehurumende. Kupinzwa muAryan kunomanikidzirwa kweumambo hwebhizimisi hwaMüller kwakatanga muna 1938. Pakuvamba muna 1939 Thekla Müller akamanikidzwa kusiya musha wakanaka muBerlin-Charlottenburg umo iye akanga agara nemhuri yake chifo cha 1916. Muna August 1939 muridzi mutsva, Gauleiter wehurumende, akatamira mairi. Pakati paApril 1939 naJune 1941 Thekla aigara mukamuri paHotel Esplanade pakati peguta.