Akwai, duk da haka, ƙungiyoyi a cikin wannan lokacin da suka ci gaba da ra'ayoyin heterodox na allahn kirista, gami da ra'ayoyi daban-daban game da yanayi, wucewa, da yiwuwar Allah. Mutane da ƙungiyoyi kamar Johannes Eriotus Scugena, David na Dinant, Amalric na Bena, da Brethren na Free Spirit sun riƙe ra'ayoyin kirista tare da ra'ayoyin pantheistic. Nicholas na Cusa ya riƙe wani nau'i na fideism wanda ya kira docta ignoranti ("rashin sani"), yana tabbatar da cewa Allah ya wuce ƙwarewar ɗan adam, don haka iliminmu game da shi ya iyakance ga zato.
John na Mirecourt da Nicholas na Autrecourt