Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  E hiahia ana te tangata X ki te kōrero ki te tangata Y
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka tono a Ivan kia korero ki a Amer na te mea e hiahia ana a Ivan ki te korero ki a Amer i kite ia ia e kihi ana i a James.