Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka tutaki a PersonX ki tana kuia
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: I tutaki a Carlin ki tana kuia mo te wā tuatahi i a ia e rima tau te pakeke. Ko ia whakama i te tuatahi, engari ko ia tino atawhai, a hohoro ia i te kōrero atu ki a ia. I aroha a Carlin ki te whakarongo ki ngā kōrero e pā ana ki a ia i a ia e tamariki ana, ā, he maha ngā wā ka toro atu ia ki a ia kia kōrero noa iho.