Whakarāpopototia te tuhinga:  Kua ohorere anō te kaihautū reo irirangi rongonui a John Laws i te hunga whakarongo i muri i tana whakahe i tētahi tangata kaumātua i tīmata ki te pakaru i runga i te hau i a ia e whakaatu ana i te tūkino i a ia i a ia e tamariki ana. I te wā o te uiuinga i te ata o te Rāhoroi ka kī a Mr Laws i te tāne pakeke - e mōhiotia ana ko Brian - he 'kōtae makuku' ā, ka tūtohu kia 'haere ia ki te whare kai, kia inu i tētahi wai rēmana, mo te aroha o te Atua.' Panuku ki raro mō te ataata. Kua whakawakia a Mr Laws i muri i tana tawai i te patunga o te 80 tau te pakeke. I roto i te korerorero tekau meneti Brian korerotia maha ngā take i reira i tūkino ia i te sexualized i te mea ko ia anake kotahi tekau ma tahi me te tekau ma wha tau o te tau. Ka kata a Mr Laws, ka kata, 'i roa te wā i taea ai e koe te kōrero mō taua mea.' Kātahi a Brian ka kī atu ki a Mr Laws, e rua ngā take i pūrongotia e ia ki te pirihimana, engari i kī atu ki a ia, 'haere atu, wareware. Kaore he tangata e mahi i tetahi mea mo taua mea.' I tēnei wā i tāpirihia e Mr Laws te whakahawea ki te whara i a ia e kii ana ki a Brian e 80 tau te pakeke me whawhai ia ki taua tangata, i a ia ano i mahi i a ia i te wa i 'whakatika' ai nga tangata ki a ia i a ia e tamariki ana. I kī te kaitākaro ohorere i te koroheke ko te 'whakamaramatanga' me te whakaaro kia 'haere ia ki te whare haurangi me te inu i te rēmana, mo te aroha o te Atua'. 'I karanga koe i roto i te wehi? I karanga mai koe 'Kāti, e te tangata kino'? I whiua e koe ki ōu ringa? I patu koe i a ia?' Ka ui nga ture. Ka whakahoki a Brian, 'e kore, kaore pea.' Kāore au i te tino mārama ki te take kāore koe i riri, kua tino pakeke kē koe i taua wā. Kaore koe i pana, i hamama, i hamama, i patu ranei?' I haere tonu a Mr Laws ki te akiaki i te take, ā, i kī ia me i korerotia e ia ki tōna whānau, ki tōna rangatira rānei, nā wai i puta mai ko ia te kawenga mō ētahi o ngā whakaekenga. I timata a Brian ki te raru i tenei wa i te wa i whakamaramahia e ia kaore he tautoko a te whanau. 'Kāore, kāore anō mātou kia whai uh, kāore he mea pēnei... te aroha o te whānau,' ka mea a Brian. I whakamārama mai a ia ko tana tukino he take i whai wāhi ai ki te kore i a ia he kaumeahine, he hiahia aroha, he iti rawa hoki te whakapā atu ki te tangata. Ka whakahētia a Mr Laws i...
I ohorere te kaiwhakaari reo irirangi a John Laws i tana whiu i a Brian, 80 tau te pakeke i tukinotia i te moepuku. Ko te tangata i waea mai i te ata o te Taite i whakaekehia i te 11 me te 14 o ona tau. I pūrongotia e ia ngā tūtukitanga ki te pirihimana heoi kāore he mahi i mahia. I whakapae a Mr Laws ki te patunga tapu, ā, i kī ia me i ārai te tangata i a ia anō i te wā o te whakaekenga. Ka haere tonu ia, 'Kāore koe i te tīwiri i te wā katoa' I te tau 2013 ka whakaekehia a Mr Laws i muri i tana uiuinga ki tētahi wahine i tukinotia. I whakapae ia ki te patunga, ā, i kīia e ia ko ngā wāhine e kākahu ana i ngā kākahu whakahāwea he 'whakapā'anga'