Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  E mātau ana te tangata X e hiahia ana te tangata Y ki te kōrero
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: E mārama ana a Nicholai e hiahia ana taua tangata ki te kōrero mō āna raruraru. Inaianei kei te ite a Nicholai he āwhina, ā, e hiahia ana ia ki te whakarongo ki ngā kōrero a te tangata.