Waihangahia tētahi putanga matatini ake o tēnei rerenga kōrero I te tau 1823, ka tīmata ia i tētahi mahi whānui i Ashton-under-Lyne, i reira hoki ia i whakaako ai i te Matū i te Whare Wānanga o Mechanics.
Ko te tikanga, ko te putanga matatini ake o te rerenga korero ko "I tohu i te tau 1823, i tiimata ia i te mahi whanui i Ashton-i raro-i-Lyne, engari i te tau 1839 i nekehia ki Manchester ki te mahi hei tohunga haumanu me te kaitohutohu. "