Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka whai wāhi te TangataX me te TangataY ki tētahi kōrero tūturu
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka kōrero noa iho a Josemaria rāua ko Giulianna. Ka nui te koa o Hōsemaria ki te kōrero ki a Giulianna; e pai ana ia ki te ako e pā ana ki a ia, ki tōna oranga, ki te whakapuaki hoki i āna ake kōrero. E hari ana ia i te mōhio ake ki a ia.