Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka wehe te tangata X i te kōrerorero
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: I haere atu a Herbert i te kōrerorero, nā te mea kāore ia i hiahia ki te kōrero a te tangata. I kitea e ia he mea whakarihariha nga kaupapa e korerohia ana e ratou, a he pai ake nga mea hei mahi i te whakarongo ki a raatau korero.