Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Kāore e taea e te Tangata X te whakamutu i te whakaaro mō te mate
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Kāore e taea e Mataya te whakamutu i te whakaaro mō te mate nā te mea e hiahia ana ia ki te mōhio he aha te mea e tupu ana i muri i te mate. Kua pānuihia e ia i roto i ngā pukapuka, kua rongo hoki ia i te kōrero a te tangata, engari kāore tonu ia i te tino mōhio. E hiahia ana a Mataya ki te mohio mēnā he ora i muri i te mate, ā, mēnā he ora, he aha te āhua.