Tuhia he tohutoro mō tēnei wāhanga - He iti noa iho te mōhio ki a ia. I marena tuatahi ia ki te Bavarian margrave Luitpold i noho ko ia te tupuna o te whare rangatira o Luitpolding. Ko ana tama i a ia ko Arnulf te Kino me Berthold, i whakahaerehia e rua hei Duke o Bavaria i muri mai. I mate a Luitpold i te pakanga o Pressburg i te tau 907
e whawhai ana ki nga ope o Hungary.