Tuhia he tomokanga mō tēnei wāhanga - I muri i te whakaekenga o te Kotahitanga o Warsaw o Czechoslovakia i te tau 1968
, kaore i tino awhi i a ia me nga ringaringa tuwhera. Nō reira, i te tau 1971, ka haere ia ki Ottawa, i Kanata, i reira i whakatū ai, i ārahi ai i tētahi tari pāngarau hōu i te Whare Wānanga o Carleton, i tino awe i te ao o te taurangi, te tūponotanga, me te tatauranga.