Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka pānui te tangata X i roto i te pepa kua whakarere te tangata Y
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka pānui a Madigan i roto i te niupepa kua whakarere a Lillith. Kāore e taea e Madigan te whakapono ka whakarere a Lillith me te kore e kōrero ki a ia i mua. E whakaaro ana ia kua tinihangatia ia, kua riri.