Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka hokona e te TangataX tētahi kamupene
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka hokona e Zen tētahi kamupene. Ko te kamupene kei roto i te pakihi o te hanga taputapu. E whakaaro ana a Zen he mea akiaki na te mea i hiahia tonu ia ki te whai i tana ake kamupene taputapu.