Whakaotihia te rerenga e whai ake nei: I wikitoria a Herr i te 1911 Illinois Trophy Race i whakahaerehia i runga i nga huarahi o Elgin, Illinois e taraiwa ana i te National. I te 1912 Indianapolis 500 i mahi ia hei taraiwa whakakapi mo Joe Dawson mai i te pota 108 ki te 144. I muri iho, ka hoki a Dawson ki te waka, ka haere ki te wikitoria. Kaore i rite ki te whakataetae o te tau 1924 i reira ko te tiimata me te taraiwa whakarereke i whakauruhia hei toa-toa, kaore a Herr i whakawhiwhia hei toa Indianapolis 500 na te mea i tiimata a Dawson me te whakaoti i te whakataetae. I eke a Herr ki tana ake waka i te
1913 Indianapolis 500 a ka tiimata te tuarima ka oti i nga porowhita e whitu noa iho i mua i tana whiu i te kakau kopare pakaru, e taraiwa ana i te Stutz a Wisconsin. Koia tērā tōna tīmatanga Whakataetae Whakataetae whakamutunga.