Tuhia he whiti kōrero poto i runga i te kaupapa e whai ake nei:  Ka tangi te tangata X i a ia e moe ana
Ae ra, anei he rarangi poto: Ka rongo a Hogan i te wehi i a ia e tangi ana i a ia e moe ana. Kāore anō ia kia mahi i tērā i mua, ā, e mataku ana ia ki te whakaaro he aha pea te take. Tērā pea he mea kei te whakakahoretia e ia? Ranei kei te awangawanga ia i te nui o te mahi i mahia e ia i enei wa? Ahakoa he aha, ka whakatau a Hogan ki te kōrero ki tana kaitohutohu mātai hinengaro mō taua mea i te wā e whai ake nei e whai ana ia i tētahi hui.