Read the following texts and table with financial data from an S&P 500 earnings report carefully.Based on the question-answer history (if provided), answer the last question. The answer may require mathematical calculation based on the data provided.


the goldman sachs group , inc . and subsidiaries management 2019s discussion and analysis net revenues the table below presents net revenues by line item. . <table class='wikitable'><tr><td>1</td><td>$ in millions</td><td>year ended december 2018</td><td>year ended december 2017</td><td>year ended december 2016</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>investment banking</td><td>$ 7862</td><td>$ 7371</td><td>$ 6273</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>investment management</td><td>6514</td><td>5803</td><td>5407</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>commissions and fees</td><td>3199</td><td>3051</td><td>3208</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>market making</td><td>9451</td><td>7660</td><td>9933</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>other principal transactions</td><td>5823</td><td>5913</td><td>3382</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>totalnon-interestrevenues</td><td>32849</td><td>29798</td><td>28203</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>interest income</td><td>19679</td><td>13113</td><td>9691</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>interest expense</td><td>15912</td><td>10181</td><td>7104</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>net interest income</td><td>3767</td><td>2932</td><td>2587</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>total net revenues</td><td>$ 36616</td><td>$ 32730</td><td>$ 30790</td></tr></table> in the table above : 2030 investment banking consists of revenues ( excluding net interest ) from financial advisory and underwriting assignments , as well as derivative transactions directly related to these assignments . these activities are included in our investment banking segment . 2030 investment management consists of revenues ( excluding net interest ) from providing investment management services to a diverse set of clients , as well as wealth advisory services and certain transaction services to high-net-worth individuals and families . these activities are included in our investment management segment . 2030 commissions and fees consists of revenues from executing and clearing client transactions on major stock , options and futures exchanges worldwide , as well as over-the-counter ( otc ) transactions . these activities are included in our institutional client services and investment management segments . 2030 market making consists of revenues ( excluding net interest ) from client execution activities related to making markets in interest rate products , credit products , mortgages , currencies , commodities and equity products . these activities are included in our institutional client services segment . 2030 other principal transactions consists of revenues ( excluding net interest ) from our investing activities and the origination of loans to provide financing to clients . in addition , other principal transactions includes revenues related to our consolidated investments . these activities are included in our investing & lending segment . provision for credit losses , previously reported in other principal transactions revenues , is now reported as a separate line item in the consolidated statements of earnings . previously reported amounts have been conformed to the current presentation . operating environment . during 2018 , our market- making activities reflected generally higher levels of volatility and improved client activity , compared with a low volatility environment in 2017 . in investment banking , industry-wide mergers and acquisitions volumes increased compared with 2017 , while industry-wide underwriting transactions decreased . our other principal transactions revenues benefited from company-specific events , including sales , and strong corporate performance , while investments in public equities reflected losses , as global equity prices generally decreased in 2018 , particularly towards the end of the year . in investment management , our assets under supervision increased reflecting net inflows in liquidity products , fixed income assets and equity assets , partially offset by depreciation in client assets , primarily in equity assets . if market-making or investment banking activity levels decline , or assets under supervision decline , or asset prices continue to decline , net revenues would likely be negatively impacted . see 201csegment operating results 201d for further information about the operating environment and material trends and uncertainties that may impact our results of operations . during 2017 , generally higher asset prices and tighter credit spreads were supportive of industry-wide underwriting activities , investment management performance and other principal transactions . however , low levels of volatility in equity , fixed income , currency and commodity markets continued to negatively affect our market-making activities . 2018 versus 2017 net revenues in the consolidated statements of earnings were $ 36.62 billion for 2018 , 12% ( 12 % ) higher than 2017 , primarily due to significantly higher market making revenues and net interest income , as well as higher investment management revenues and investment banking revenues . non-interest revenues . investment banking revenues in the consolidated statements of earnings were $ 7.86 billion for 2018 , 7% ( 7 % ) higher than 2017 . revenues in financial advisory were higher , reflecting an increase in industry-wide completed mergers and acquisitions volumes . revenues in underwriting were slightly higher , due to significantly higher revenues in equity underwriting , driven by initial public offerings , partially offset by lower revenues in debt underwriting , reflecting a decline in leveraged finance activity . investment management revenues in the consolidated statements of earnings were $ 6.51 billion for 2018 , 12% ( 12 % ) higher than 2017 , primarily due to significantly higher incentive fees , as a result of harvesting . management and other fees were also higher , reflecting higher average assets under supervision and the impact of the recently adopted revenue recognition standard , partially offset by shifts in the mix of client assets and strategies . see note 3 to the consolidated financial statements for further information about asu no . 2014-09 , 201crevenue from contracts with customers ( topic 606 ) . 201d 52 goldman sachs 2018 form 10-k .
Question: what was the total net revenues for 2018?
Answer: 36616.0
Question: and for 2017?
Answer: 32730.0
Question: so what was the difference in this value between the two years?
Answer: 3886.0
Question: and the value for 2017 again?

32730.0