.
DAVID: FOLKS, HERE IS THE COVER
SEEN AROUND THE WORLD NOW
DEBUNKED.
THE FATHER OF THE LITTLE GIRL
THAT WAS FEATURED ON THIS
WEEK'S "TIME" MAGAZINE COVER
TELLING THE DAILY MAIL THAT SHE
WAS NEVER SEPARATED FROM HER
MOTHER.
VERY DIFFERENT NARRATIVE
IMPLIED BY THE PICTURE FEATURED
ON THE COVER WERE WHAT THE
EDITORS WANTED YOU TO PERCEIVE.
JOINING ME IS HOWIE KURTZ,
"MEDIABUZZ" HOST AND FOX NEWS
MEDIA ANALYST.
HOWIE, THIS IS PROPAGANDA PURE
AND SIMPLE, NOT FACTUAL-BASED
JOURNALISM.
NARRATIVE THAT IS MEANT BY THE
COVERAGE.
THIS IS A LITTLE GIRL ONE OF
THE SEPARATED FROM THE PARENTS
AND IT'S JUST NOT SO.
DON'T WE DESERVE AN APOLOGY
FROM THE EDITORS OF "TIME" FOR
THIS?
>> WELL, IT'S THE LATEST IN A
SERIES OF ANTI-TRUMP COVERS ON
"TIME" MAGAZINE, "TIME" MAKING
NO EFFORT TO HIDE OUTRIGHT
DISDAIN.
DAVID: THIS IS A LIE, ONE THING
TO HAVE ANTI-TRUMP.
THIS IS PORTRAYING SOMETHING
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
>> OKAY, I COULD MAKE THE CASE
THAT AT THE TIME THE MAGAZINE
WENT TO PRESS, EVERYBODY IN THE
PRESS BELIEVED THIS PICTURE OF
THE TWO-YEAR-OLD HONDURAN GIRL
WAS ICONIC, TAKEN BY A PULITZER
PRIZE-WINNING PHOTOGRAPHER,
THOUGHT SHE WAS SEPARATED.
BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN
REVEALED, NO LONGER DISPUTE
ABOUT IT AND "TIME" SAYING WE
STAND BY IT BECAUSE IT'S A
METAPHOR, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE
HATE THE MEDIA.
OWN THE MISTAKE, IF WE HAD
KNOWN, AND WE ARE SORRY, "TIME"
MAGAZINE NOT DOING THAT.
DAVID: MAKES SENSE, SO MANY
FALSE NARRATIVES.
GOES BACK TO WHERE THIS STARTED
ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHEN WE HAD
INFORMATION, PHOTOS PUT OUT BY
DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES SHOWING
DETENTION CENTERS, HERE'S ONE
OF THEM.
DURING THE OBAMA ERA NOT TRUMP.
THE IMPLICATION IS THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENS WITH THE TRUMP, NO
TOLERANCE POLICY AND, IN FACT,
IT WAS SOMETHING FROM THE OBAMA
ERA?
>> RIGHT, I THINK OVERALL THE
FACT THAT MANY I GUESS MORE
THAN 2,000 CHILDREN SEPARATED
FROM FAMILIES REGARDLESS OF
WHERE YOU STAND ON THE
IMMIGRATION ISSUE, THAT WAS NOT
JUST AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WITH
MANY CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATORS,
OUTLETS, CRITICIZE THE
PRESIDENT AS WELL.
THESE KIND OF MISTAKES, IT'S
AMAZING HOW OFTEN THE MISTAKES
ARE ALWAYS ANTI-TRUMP.
NEVER A MISTAKE THAT GIVES THE
PRESIDENT THE BENEFIT OF THE
DOUBT.
IT ALWAYS GOES IN ONE
DIRECTION.
DAVID: ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
LAST PHOTO WE HAD, MAYBE PUT
THAT UP AGAIN OF THE KID WITH
HIS FINGERS THROUGH THE
CHAIN-LINK FENCE, THAT'S AN
EXTRAORDINARY ONE.
THAT REALLY GIVES THE
IMPRESSION OF A KID FENCED IN.
IN FACT, WAS FROM A PROTEST
THAT WAS DONE IN DALLAS, TEXAS,
AND THE KID JUST SAW HIS MOTHER
RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THIS CAGE THAT
WAS SET UP BY PROTESTERS, MADE
TO LOOK AS THOUGH IT WAS
ANOTHER INTERNMENT CAMP BY THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, NOT SO.
>> HAVEN'T BEEN MANY PICTURES
BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT
RESTRICTIONS ON JOURNALISTS.
TOO MANY HAVE BEEN USING OTHER
PICTURES THAT DON'T REALLY SHOW
WHAT THEY PURPORTEDLY SHOW.
>> THE BOTTOM LINE, HOWIE,
FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING,
DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES WORKING
IN TANDEM WITH THE MEDIA TO PUT
ACROSS A NARRATIVE THAT IN MANY
CASES IS UNTRUE WITH THE
PICTURES THAT THEY'RE USING.
AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU CREATE
PUBLIC POLICY, THAT'S THE END
OF THIS, HOPEFULLY, THERE WILL
BE GOOD PUBLIC POLICY, BUT YOU
CAN'T HAVE GOOD PUBLIC POLICY
THAT COMES FROM FALSE
NARRATIVES, CAN YOU?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
UNACCEPTABLE, NOT GOOD
JOURNALISM.
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT
THE LARGER PICTURE BECAME SO
CONTROVERSIAL, THAT'S NOT A
FALSE NARRATIVE.
WE COULD ARGUE ABOUT THE WAYS
AND THE OVERLY EMOTIONAL WAYS,
AT TIMES, IT'S BEEN REPORTED.
DAVID: QUICKLY, "ROSEANNE," THE
SHOW BACK ON WITHOUT
"ROSEANNE."
PETER FONDA WAS INVOLVED IN
THIS AWFUL TWEET WHICH HE
SUGGESTED THINGS TO BE DONE TO
THE PRESIDENT'S CHILDREN, JUST
AWFUL.
I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT IT.
HE KEEPS HIS CONTRACT WITH SONY
TO DO A MOTION PICTURE.
ROSEANNE LOSES HER CONTRACT
WITH THE TV SHOW.
IS THAT FAIR?
>> ULTIMATELY ABC DID THE RIGHT
