 
>> Rosemary: HELLO THERE.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON HERE IN 
OTTAWA.
THANK YOU PETITIONER JOINING US 
ON CBC NEWS NETWORK AND 
STREAMING ONLINE AND ON OUR APP.
WE ARE STANDING BY FOR PRIME 
MINISTER TRUDEAU'S ADDRESS, THE 
FIRST SINCE THERE WAS A 
SNOWBIRDS PLANE CRASH THAT 
KILLED JENN CASEY AND INJURED 
THE PILOT, RICHARD MacDOUGALL.
WE ARE EXPECTING THE PRIME 
MINISTER TO ADDRESS THAT CRASH 
AND ALSO EXPECTING AN UPDATE ON 
THE GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO THE
PANDEMIC, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
THE CANADA EMERGENCY BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT, ON A DAY WHEN THREE 
MORE PROVINCES ARE LIFTING SOME 
RESTRICTIONS AND ALLOWING THE 
RESTRICTIONS TO BE LIFTED, HERE,
ONTARIO, AS WELL AS 
BRITISH COLUMBIA.
THE PRIME MINISTER WILL 
PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY IN THE 
COVID-19 COMMITTEE IN 
PARLIAMENT.
SO HE STARTS HIS BRIEFING A 
LITTLE BIT EARLIER ON TUESDAYS 
AND THURSDAYS.
WHILE WE WAIT I'LL BRING IN MY 
COLLEAGUES, THE HOST OF "POWER &
POLITICS," VASSY KAPELOS, AND 
DAVID COCHRANE.
VASSY, WE ARE EXPECTING THE 
PRIME MINISTER TO TALK ABOUT 
THESE SMALL BUSINESS LOANS.
605 BUSINESSES HAVE APPLIED FOR 
THOSE LOANS SO FAR.
>> Vassy: YEAH, HE'S GOING TO 
TALK ABOUT THOSE LOANS AND THE 
MAIN CRITICISM IS THE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO QUALIFY.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PAYROLL 
BETWEEN $20,000 AND $1.5 
MILLION, IF YOU PAY YOURSELF IN 
DIVIDENDS OR YOU HAVE CONTRACT 
WORKERS, THOSE ARE INELIGIBLE.
>> Rosemary: THANKS, VASSY.
HERE IS THE PRIME MINISTER OF 
CANADA.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE WILL EXTEND BY 30 
DAYS THE CURRENT MEASURES ALONG 
THE BORDER.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION 
THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE IN BOTH OF
OUR COUNTRIES SAFE.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] THIS MORNING I CAN 
CONFIRM THAT CANADA AND THE 
UNITED STATES HAVE AGREED TO 
EXTEND BY 30 DAYS THE MEASURES 
CURRENTLY IN PLACE AT THE 
BORDER.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION 
WHICH WILL PROTECT ITS CITIZENS 
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.
[end of translation] I ALSO WANT
TO ADDRESS THE TRAGIC RCAF PLANE
CRASH IN KAMLOOPS OVER THE 
WEEKEND.
OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH CAPTAIN 
CASEY, CAPTAIN MacDOUGALL, AND 
THE ENTIRE SNOWBIRDS TEAM.
THIS HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT FEW 
WEEKS FOR MEMBERS OF THE 
CANADIAN ARMED FORCES.
AS WE MOURN, WE REMEMBER CAPTAIN
CASEY AS AN OUTSTANDING 
JOURNALIST WOMAN, A JOURNALIST 
WHO TURNED HER TALENTS TO THE 
FORCES.
SHE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR HER 
PROFESSIONALISM, SENSE OF 
HUMOUR, AND KINDNESS.
AS WE HONOUR HER, WE PAY TRIBUTE
TO THE BRAVERY OF ALL THOSE WHO 
SERVED TODAY.
OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM ARE
ALWAYS THERE FOR US, SERVING 
OVERSEAS TO DEFEND THE VALUES WE
HOLD DEAR, WORKING HERE AT HOME 
TO CARE FOR SENIORS AND LIFT OUR
SPIRITS WITH FLYOVERS.
SO TO EVERYONE WHO SO PROUDLY 
WEARS THE MAPLE LEAF, THANK YOU,
YOU DO YOUR COUNTRY PROUD, TODAY
AND EVERY DAY.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] IN THE WAKE OF THE 
TRAGIC CRASH OF A PLANE OF THE 
ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE OVER 
THE WEEKEND, CANADIANS STAND 
WITH THE FAMILY OF CAPTAIN 
CASEY, CAPTAIN MacDOUGALL, AND 
THE ENTIRE SNOWBIRDS TEAM.
AS WE MOURN THE DEATH OF ANOTHER
HEROINE, WE PAY TRIBUTE TO ALL 
OF THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
EVERY DAY YOU MAKE US PROUD.
[end of translation] AS WE START
TO CAREFULLY AND GRADUALLY 
REOPEN OUR ECONOMY, A LOT OF 
PEOPLE WILL BE WONDERING WHAT 
THAT MEANS FOR THEM.
IF YOU'VE BEEN LAID OFF, YOU'RE 
PROBABLY WAITING TO SEE IF YOUR 
EMPLOYER WILL START UP YOUR 
WORKPLACE AND REHIRE YOU.
TO HELP THEM DO THAT, WE'VE 
EXTENDED THE WAGE SUBSIDY 
THROUGH THE SUMMER.
THIS IS ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE 
BACK TO WORK AND GIVING 
BUSINESSES THE CONFIDENCE TO 
REOPEN, REHIRE, AND EVEN GROW.
BECAUSE THE WAY OUR ECONOMY WILL
RECOVER AND THE WAY OUR COUNTRY 
WILL REMAIN RESILIENT AND 
SUCCESSFUL IS BY GETTING 
CANADIANS BACK TO WORK.
MANY BUSINESS OWNERS ARE ALREADY
BENEFITTING FROM THIS PROGRAM TO
REHIRE AND MAINTAIN THE CRUCIAL 
LINK BETWEEN WORKPLACE AND 
EMPLOYEE.
TO EMPLOYERS LOOKING TO START UP
AGAIN, PLEASE REHIRE YOUR 
WORKERS, USE THE WAGE SUBSIDY 
FOR THEIR PAYCHEQUE.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.
FOR BUSINESSES THAT STILL NEED 
HELP, TODAY WE'RE TAKING ANOTHER
STEP FORWARD.
TODAY I CAN ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE
EXPANDING THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE
CANADA EMERGENCY BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT.
IF YOU ARE THE SOLE 
OWNER/OPERATOR OF A BUSINESS, IF
YOUR BUSINESS RELIES ON 
CONTRACTORS, OR IF YOU HAVE A 
FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS AND YOU 
PAY EMPLOYEES THROUGH DIVIDENDS,
YOU WILL NOW QUALIFY.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A HAIR SALON 
OWNER WITH STYLISTS WHO RENT 
CHAIRS, FOR A LOCAL 
PHYSIOTHERAPIST, FOR AN 
INDEPENDENT GYM OWNER WITH 
CONTRACTED TRAINERS, THIS IS FOR
YOU.
WE WILL HAVE MORE DETAILS VERY 
SOON ABOUT WHEN YOU'LL BE ABLE 
TO APPLY, BUT WE HEARD YOU WHEN 
YOU SAID YOU NEEDED A HAND.
THAT'S WHY MINISTER NG IS ALSO 
WORKING ON POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS 
TO HELP BUSINESS OWNERS AND 
ENTREPRENEURS WHO OPERATE 
THROUGH THEIR PERSONAL BANK 
ACCOUNT AS OPPOSED TO A BUSINESS
BANK ACCOUNT OR HAVE YET TO FILE
A TAX RETURN, SUCH AS NEWLY 
CREATED BUSINESSES.
AS WE ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK, THERE
IS NEW FUNDING FOR REGIONAL 
DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES TOO THAT 
YOU CAN CONTACT IF YOU DON'T 
MEET THESE EXPANDED CRITERIA.
BUSINESSES LIKE YOURS ARE THE 
BACKBONE OF OUR ECONOMY AND THE 
LIFEBLOOD OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
WHETHER IT'S WITH THE CEBA OR 
THE EXPANDED WAGE SUBSIDY, WE'RE
IN YOUR CORNER.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] IN ORDER TO HELP 
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS COVER 
THEIR EXPENSES, WE ARE EXPANDING
ELIGIBILITY FOR THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY BUSINESS ACCOUNT.
ALREADY MORE THAN 6,000 SMALL 
BUSINESSES HAVE RECEIVED A 
$40,000 LOAN UNDER THIS PROGRAM,
BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MORE 
PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO NEED HELP.
SO IF YOU ARE THE ONLY OWNER AND
EMPLOYEE OF A BUSINESS, IF YOUR 
BUSINESS DEPENDS ON CONTRACT 
WORKERS, OR IF YOUR BUSINESS IS 
A FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS AND YOU 
PAY EMPLOYEES WITH DIVIDENDS, 
YOU WILL ALSO BE ELIGIBLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A HAIR 
SALON WHERE YOUR STYLISTS RENT 
THEIR CHAIRS OR YOU'RE A 
SELF-EMPLOYED PHYSIOTHERAPIST OR
THE OWNER OF A GYM THAT 
EMPLOYEES CONTRACT TRAINERS, THE
PROGRAM WILL BE THERE FOR YOU.
WE ARE WORKING HARD SO PEOPLE 
CAN KEEP THEIR JOBS OR RETURN TO
WORK, AND WE'RE DOING THAT BY 
HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES THAT 
ARE SO IMPORTANT IN OUR 
COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW
CANADA CAN FIRE UP AGAIN.
OF COURSE SO THAT WE CAN GET 
THROUGH THIS CRISIS, WE ALSO 
HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH MEDICAL 
MATERIAL AND PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN 
STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE.
THIS MORNING I'D LIKE TO UPDATE 
CANADIANS ON PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT.
IN RECENT WEEKS, WE HAVE DOUBLED
OUR INVENTORY OF SURGICAL MASKS 
AND FACE SHIELDS.
THIS WEEK AND IN THE COMING 
WEEKS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF 
HOSPITAL GOWNS, FACE SHIELDS, 
GLASSES, AND SWABS WILL BE 
DELIVERED TO THE PROVINCES AND 
TERRITORIES.
WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED AN ORDER 
OF VENTILATORS FROM ZOL IN THE 
UNITED STATES.
BECAUSE WE WANT THAT EQUIPMENT 
TO BE PRODUCED HERE IN CANADA AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE CONTINUE TO
INCREASE OUR PRODUCTION 
CAPACITY.
WE NOW HAVE 15 CONTRACTS RIGHT 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO 
MANUFACTURE HOSPITAL GOWNS.
IN FACT, WE WILL START RECEIVING
HOSPITAL GOWNS FROM THE MONTREAL
COMPANY SAMUELSON BETWEEN NOW 
AND THE END OF THE MONTH.
[end of translation] AND NOW 
SOME GOOD NEWS THAT WE HAVEN'T 
HAD ENOUGH OF TODAY.
AS OF TODAY CANADA NOW HAS ITS 
FIRST UNIVERSITY IN THE NORTH.
YUKON COLLEGE IS BECOMING THE 
NEW YUKON UNIVERSITY.
AS A CORNERSTONE FOR THIS STEP, 
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS ALREADY 
PROVIDED $26 MILLION FOR A NEW 
SCIENCE BUILDING.
TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED MAKE THIS
MILESTONE HAPPEN, 
CONGRATULATIONS, NOT JUST FOR 
STUDENTS, BUT FOR ALL OF US.
THIS IS TRULY SOMETHING THAT 
CELEBRATE.
YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO 
CHANGE OUR COUNTRY FOR THE 
BETTER, AND IT'S UP TO US TO 
MAKE SURE THAT NO MATTER WHERE 
THEY LIVE, THEY HAVE THE TOOLS 
TO CHASE THEIR DREAMS AND 
SUCCEED.
TODAY, MORE THAN EVER, WE NEED 
THEIR VISION AND THEIR 
CREATIVITY BECAUSE THAT IS OUR 
PATH FORWARD.
MERCI BEAUCOUP.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] FIRST OF 
ALL, A QUESTION ABOUT THE 
BORDER.
WAS THERE MORE PRESSURE FROM THE
PROVINCES TO MAINTAIN THE 
CLOSURE OF THE BORDER UNTIL 
JUNE?
AND IS IT THE SAME THING ON THE 
UNITED STATES, MAYBE AN 
INDETERMINATE CLOSURE OF THE 
BORDER?
>> Answer: WELL, WE HAVE HAD A 
LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE 
PROVINCES OVER THE RECENT WEEKS 
AND THERE IS A CURRENT DESIRE TO
KEEP MEASURES IN PLACE AT THE 
BORDER.
AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS A SOURCE OF
VULNERABILITY FOR ALL OF US IN 
TERMS OF CASES OF COVID-19 
COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY.
SO WE WILL EXTEND THE -- THOSE 
MEASURES AND THE AMERICANS WERE 
COMPLETELY OPEN TO DOING THAT 
FOR A FURTHER 30 DAYS.
>> Operator: FOLLOW UP?
>> Question: YES.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO COMMENT ON 
THE REOPENING OF BUSINESSES IN 
MONTREAL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT 
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MONTREAL?
AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE
IDEA OF DOING SOME SHOPPING IN 
MONTREAL?
>> Answer: WELL, YESTERDAY I HAD
A CONVERSATION WITH A NUMBER OF 
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN MY 
RIDING OVER THE INTERNET, 
VIRTUALLY OF COURSE, AND WHAT I 
HEARD FROM THEM ARE THEIR 
CONCERNS, BUT ALSO THEIR DESIRE 
TO RE-ENGAGE AND TO GRADUALLY 
REOPEN THEIR BUSINESSES.
SO I KNOW THAT SOME BUSINESSES 
ON THE ISLAND OF MONTREAL AND 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL BE
MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS, WILL
BE VERY CAREFUL.
OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY 
CONSUMERS OUT THERE, EVEN IF 
THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO 
HELP THEIR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO 
THRIVE, THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
SO THIS WILL HAVE TO BE DONE 
VERY CAREFULLY TO ENSURE THAT WE
CAN REOPEN THE BUSINESSES SAFELY
AND GRADUALLY AND I TOO WOULD 
LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO VARIOUS
BUSINESSES IN THE COMING DAYS, 
BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO 
CONTINUE TO FOLLOW PUBLIC HEALTH
ADVICE AND PRACTICE PHYSICAL 
DISTANCING.
[end of translation]. 
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION.
>> Operator: NEXT QUESTION KATE 
BONGERO, "BLOOMBERG."
LINE OPEN.
>> Question: ON THIS NEWS 
REGARDING THE BORDER EXTENSION, 
I'M WONDERING WHEN EXACTLY WILL 
CANADA OPEN ITS INTERNATIONAL 
BORDERS AND DO YOU FORESEE 
FURTHER EXTENSIONS TO THIS 
BORDER CLOSURE BEYOND JUNE 30?
>> Answer: AS WE'VE SEEN THE 
DECISIONS ARE VERY MUCH WEEK TO 
WEEK IN THIS CRISIS.
THE SITUATION IS CHANGING 
RAPIDLY AND WE ARE ADJUSTING TO 
WHAT ARE THE RIGHT MEASURES FOR 
CANADIANS AND GETTING THAT 
BALANCE RIGHT TO KEEP CANADIANS 
SAFE AND RESTORE THE ECONOMIC 
ACTIVITY THAT WE ALL RELY ON.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MAKING THOSE
DECISIONS AS TIME GOES ON.
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO 
FURTHER EXTEND OUR CLOSURE OF 
THE CANADA-U.S. BORDER BY 30 
DAYS TO EVERYONE OTHER THAN 
ESSENTIAL GOODS AND SERVICES.
WE WILL BE WATCHING AROUND THE 
WORLD AND AROUND US AS WE MAKE 
DECISIONS ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] WE RECOGNIZE THAT 
THE SITUATION IS CHANGING VERY, 
VERY QUICKLY AND WE HAVE TO MAKE
THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS 
DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
RIGHT NOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO 
EXTEND THAT AGREEMENT AND THE 
CURRENT RESTRICTIONS AT THE 
BORDER FOR A FURTHER 30 DAYS, 
BUT 30 DAYS FROM NOW OF COURSE 
WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS
AND LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IS 
HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD AND 
WHAT THE SITUATION IS ACROSS 
CANADA AND MAKE THE DECISIONS 
THAT ARE RIGHT FOR CANADA AND 
APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.
AT EVERY STEP WE HAVE TO MAKE 
THE RIGHT DECISIONS DEPENDING ON
THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: JUST A QUICK 
QUESTION REGARDING THE LEEFF 
PROGRAM.
IT SEEMS IT WAS DELAYED SINCE 
MAY.
WHEN WILL THIS BE UNVEILED AND 
WHAT'S THE HOLD UP?
>> Answer: WE WERE PLEASED TO 
ANNOUNCE THE LARGE EMPLOYER 
EMERGENCY FINANCING FACILITY A 
NUMBER OF DAYS AGO NOW.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH 
INDUSTRY AND VARIOUS PARTNERS TO
FINE-TUNE THE PROGRAM SO IT IS 
THE RIGHT THING.
IT IS DESIGNED TO BE A LEARNED 
OF LAST RESORT FOR MANY BIG 
EMPLOYERS.
WE KNOW THAT MANY COMPANIES HAVE
GREATER ACCESS TO CAPITAL THAN 
SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH IS WHY 
WE HELPED SMALL BUSINESSES RIGHT
AWAY AND VERY GENEROUSLY.
BUT LARGE COMPANIES CAN ACCESS 
BORROWED CAPITAL ON CAPITAL 
MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD.
WE HOPE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO DO THAT.
IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO, THE LEEFF 
WILL BE THERE TO OFFER THEM 
SUPPORT TO LEND THEM MONEY TO 
GET THROUGH THIS COVID 
SITUATION.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH 
THEM ON MAKING SURE THAT IT 
ROLLS OUT AS QUICKLY AS 
POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
NEXT QUESTION MARIKA WALSH "THE 
GLOBE AND MAIL."
LINE OPEN.
>> Question: HI, PRIME MINISTER.
THANK YOU.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN TELL US
WHAT YOUR APPROACH IS GOING TO 
BE ON KEYSTONE X.L.
WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN YOU DO IF
THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE IS 
GOING TO CANCEL THE PROJECT?
>> Answer: A COUPLE OF YEARS 
BEFORE BECOMING PRIME MINISTER, 
I WENT DOWN TO WASHINGTON TO 
ADVOCATE FOR THE KEYSTONE X.L. 
PIPELINE.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG POSITION OF 
MINE THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR 
RESOURCES TO NEW MARKETS SAFELY 
AND SECURELY.
THAT'S WHY I'VE ALWAYS ADVOCATED
FOR THE KEYSTONE X.L PIPELINE.
WE SAW THE PREVIOUS DEMOCRATIC 
ADMINISTRATION CANCEL IT.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK 
WITH WHATEVER GOVERNMENT GETS 
ELECTED IN THE UNITED STATES TO 
IMPRESS UPON THEM HOW IMPORTANT 
CANADA IS AS A SECURE AND 
RELIABLE SOURCE OF ENERGY THEY 
REQUIRE EVEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD 
TO A DIFFERENT FUTURE.
FRENCHEDS [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] I HAVE 
ALWAYS DEFENDED THE KEYSTONE 
X.L.
PROJECT.
TWO YEARS BEFORE I WAS ELECTED, 
I WENT TO WASHINGTON TO DRIVE 
HOME THE MESSAGE THAT THE 
UNITED STATES NEEDS THE ENERGY 
WE PRODUCE.
OF COURSE I WILL WORK WITH 
WHATEVER GOVERNMENT IS ELECTED 
TO REMIND THAT ADMINISTRATION 
THAT CANADA IS A SAFE AND 
RELIABLE SOURCE OF THE ENERGY 
THAT THEY REQUIRE.
BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW 
THAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD 
RESPONSIBLY BY WORKING WITH OUR 
PARTNERS.
[end of translation]. 
>> FOLLOW UP?
>> Question: MY QUESTION WAS 
WHAT YOU WILL DO GOING FORWARD.
I WANT TO PIVOT TO PARLIAMENT.
ANDREW SCHEER IS CALLING FOR 
MORE IN-PERSON SITTINGS.
WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON HOW OR 
WHEN PARLIAMENT SHOULD RETURN?
>> Answer: I THINK, AS WITH 
EVERYTHING, WE NEED TO BE 
CAUTIOUS AND RESPONSIBLE WITH 
HOW WE REOPEN AND RESTART ALL 
SECTORS OF THE CANADIAN ECONOMY.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS 
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A 
STRONG DEMOCRACY AND 
INSTITUTIONS, NOT IN SPITE OF 
THE CRISIS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE 
CRISIS.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN VERY 
PLEASED WITH EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE
VIRTUAL SITTINGS, COMBINED WITH 
IN-PERSON SITTINGS OVER THE LAST
WEEKS, THAT HAVE ALLOWED M.P.s 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO 
PARTICIPATE IN ASKING QUESTIONS 
OF THE WORK PARLIAMENT IS DOING.
MY CONCERN IS AS WE REOPEN, IF 
WE REOPEN, WITH REDUCED NUMBERS 
WITHOUT VIRTUAL SITTINGS, THERE 
WILL BE MANY, MANY M.P.s FROM 
FURTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHO
WILL BE UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO 
COME TO OTTAWA BECAUSE OF THEIR 
FAMILIES' SAFETY.
THEREFORE, THERE WILL BE PARTS 
OF THE COUNTRY THAT WON'T BE 
REFLECTED IN OUR DEMOCRATIC 
INSTITUTIONS.
WE'VE PUT FORWARD PROPOSALS THAT
COMBINE BOTH VIRTUAL SITTINGS 
AND IN-PERSON SITTINGS, CONTINUE
THE APPROACH WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE LOOK TO GOOD CONVERSATIONS 
WITH OTHER PARTIES ON FIGURING 
OUT THAT RIGHT BALANCE AS WE 
MOVE FORWARD SAFELY IN UPHOLDING
THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] THANK 
YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MR. TRUDEAU.
NOW, WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE
TO THE ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN 
CANADA AND THE U.S.?
?
>> Answer: WELL, FOR NOW WE ARE 
CONTINUING WITH THE EXACT SAME 
AGREEMENT.
OF COURSE THERE IS STILL 
DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY TO 
DETERMINE WHETHER OTHER CHANGES 
ARE NEEDED OR ANY ADJUSTMENTS 
ARE NEEDED, BUT FOR NOW IT'S THE
SAME AGREEMENT.
>> FOLLOW UP?
>> Question: YES.
THERE'S A PROVISION IN THAT 
AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO DO WITH 
SENDING BACK ASYLUM SEEKERS.
IS THAT STILL IN THERE AND DO 
YOU INTEND TO ASK THAT THAT 
PROVISION STAY IN PLACE?
>> Answer: YES, WE ARE 
CONTINUING WITH THE SAME 
MEASURES THAT WERE IN PLACE FOR 
ASYLUM SEEKERS FOR THE NEXT 30 
DAYS.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A 
SITUATION WE HAVE EXPERIENCED 
FOR A NUMBER OF TIMES.
WE'VE HAD IRREGULAR ASYLUM 
SEEKERS COMING INTO CANADA AND 
WE HAVE BEEN SEEKING SOME WAY TO
RESOLVE THAT SITUATION THAT 
REFLECTS OUR VALUES AND 
PRINCIPLES AS A COUNTRY AND ALSO
WORKING IN GOOD FAITH WITH OUR 
SOUTHERN PARTNER.
WE ARE CONTINUING OUR 
DISCUSSIONS ON THAT, BUT AT 
EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE WILL 
ENSURE WE ARE ABIDING BY OUR 
VALUES AND PRINCIPLES.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: AS PROVINCES START 
TO REOPEN, TESTING AND TRACING 
CAN BECOME MORE IMPORTANT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT CAME UP IN 
OUR CALL WITH FIRST MINISTERS.
WHAT HAVE YOU OFFERED THE 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES IN 
TERMS OF SUPPORT ON THAT AND 
WHAT MORE CAN YOU DO?
>> Answer: THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT HAS PUT FORWARD A 
PROPOSAL THAT RECOGNIZES THAT 
INCREASED CONTACT TRACING AND 
INCREASED TESTING ARE GOING TO 
BE KEY TO A REOPENED CANADIAN 
ECONOMY.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE RIGHT 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WE HAVE 
A STRONG CAPACITY TO RESPOND 
WHEREVER THERE MIGHT BE A 
RESURGENCE OR A FLARE-UP OF 
COVID-19, AND THAT MEANS HAVING 
SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES AT THE 
AVAILABILITY OF ALL REGIONS AND 
PROVINCES.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS 
OFFERED TO INVEST IN A NATIONAL 
FRAMEWORK TO LEAD THE WAY ON 
TESTING AND CONTACT TRACING.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE 
PROVINCES RIGHT NOW TO ENSURE 
THAT IT WORKS FOR ALL OF THEM, 
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING 
FORWARD ON RAMPING UP MASSIVELY 
OUR TESTING AND OUR CONTACT 
TRACING.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] WE KNOW THAT IN A 
REOPENED ECONOMY, IT WILL BE 
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO QUICKLY 
RESPOND IF THERE'S A RESURGENCE 
OF COVID-19 SOMEPLACE IN THE 
COUNTRY.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS 
DECIDED THAT THERE HAS TO BE A 
MASSIVE RAMPING UP OF OUR 
ABILITY TO TEST AND ALSO TO 
TRACE CONTACTS THAT MIGHT HAVE 
BEEN INFECTED.
SO WE HAVE OFFERED TO INCREASE 
THAT CAPACITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY
AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE 
PROVINCES TO ENSURE THAT THAT 
PAN-CANADIAN APPROACH CAN TAKE 
HOLD, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT WILL
BE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL IN THE 
DAYS TO COME.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: WHEN THINGS DO 
START REOPENING, WHAT KIND OF 
INFRASTRUCTURE DO YOU SEE IN 
TERMS OF TESTING, TRACING, AND 
OTHER THINGS AS WELL, WHAT IS IT
GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN WE ALLOW
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL ACROSS THE 
BORDER?
>> Answer: THESE ARE ONGOING 
QUESTIONS.
WE'VE GIVEN OURSELVES ANOTHER 
MONTH UNTIL WE HAVE TO HAVE THE 
ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS ON 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL, BUT EVEN 
NOW WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE 
TO ENSURE TRAVELLERS WHO ARE 
COMING BACK FROM OVERSEAS OR THE
UNITED STATES, AS CANADIANS, ARE
PROPERLY FOLLOWED UP ON, ARE 
PROPERLY ISOLATED, AND DON'T 
BECOME FURTHER VECTORS FOR THE 
SPREAD OF COVID-19.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PROVINCES
TO ENSURE THAT ARRIVAL INTO 
CANADA EVEN NOW, BUT CERTAINLY 
WHEN WE GET TO A POINT WHEN 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL PICKS UP 
AGAIN IN THE COMING MONTHS, I 
GUESS, WE NEED TO HAVE STRONG 
MEASURES IN PLACE AND WE ARE 
LOOKING AT THOSE CLOSELY.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] 
RADIO-CANADA.
I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO THE 
INTERNATIONAL SCENE.
THERE IS A PETITION GOING AROUND
THAT SAY THAT CANADA IS NOT 
WORTHY OF A SEAT ON THE U.N. AND
SOME CANADIANS HAVE SIGNED THAT,
PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO 
INDIGENOUS ISSUES AND SO ON.
SHOULD CANADA CONTINUE ITS 
CAMPAIGN AND DO YOU THINK THAT 
THAT WILL WEAKEN OUR CHANCES?
>> Answer: WELL, I DON'T THINK 
THERE'S ANY REAL DIVISION ON 
THAT.
I THINK ALL CANADIANS WANT 
CANADA TO HAVE A STRONG AND 
REASONABLE VOICE ON THE 
INTERNATIONAL SCENE, AND THAT'S 
WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS SEEKING TO 
HAVE.
THE SECURITY COUNCIL OF THE 
UNITED NATIONS IS ONE MEANS OF 
ENSURING THAT OUR VALUES ARE 
SHARED AND THAT WE CAN PUSH FOR 
MORE COOPERATION BETWEEN 
COUNTRIES AND MORE 
MULTILATERALISM.
AND WE CAN DO THAT WITH A SEAT 
AT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL, 
BUT IT IS ONE WAY OF PURSUING 
OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE REST OF 
THE WORLD AND NOT AN END IN 
ITSELF.
SO WITH RESPECT TO PEOPLE WHO 
DISAGREE WITH OUR POSITION ON 
VENEZUELA, THE DICTATOR MADURO 
IS ILLEGITIMATE AND IS CREATING 
A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN THAT 
COUNTRY THAT IS SENDING REFUGEES
FLEEING TO OTHER COUNTRIES IN 
SOUTH AMERICA.
WE WILL STAND WITH OUR FRIENDS 
IN SOUTH AMERICA AND OUR ALLIES 
THERE TO SEEK A SOLUTION TO THIS
TERRIBLE CRISIS.
[end of translation] THE U.N. 
SECURITY COUNCIL SEAT IS A MEANS
FOR CANADA TO CONTINUE ITS 
STRONG ADVOCACY AND PRESENCE FOR
OUR VALUES ON THE WORLD STAGE.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF 
REFLECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD 
ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS COVID-19 
CRISIS AND HOW TO BRING FORWARD 
A BETTER WORLD IN THE COMING 
YEARS.
I THINK WHEN WE REFLECT ON THE 
SCALE OF THIS CRISIS, MANY 
PEOPLE HAVE COMPARED IT TO WHAT 
HAPPENED 75 YEARS AGO AROUND 
WORLD WAR II.
IN THE YEARS FOLLOWING WORLD WAR
II, WE CREATED A RANGE OF 
MULTILATERAL AND MULTINATIONAL 
INSTITUTIONS, LIKE THE I.M.F., 
THE WORLD BANK, THE BRETON WOODS
INSTITUTIONS, THAT HELPED THE 
WORLD OVER THE FOLLOWING DECADES
DEVELOP TREMENDOUS PROSPERITY 
AND OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE RIGHT
AROUND THE WORLD.
70, 75 YEARS LATER WE HAVE 
ANOTHER CRISIS THAT IS 
COMPARABLE IN SCALE TO THAT 
SECOND WORLD WAR, AND THERE HAVE
TO BE REFLECTIONS ON HOW WE MOVE
FORWARD AS A WORLD, HOW WE 
UPDATE AND ADJUST OUR VARIOUS 
MULTILATERAL INSTITUTIONS TO 
BETTER RESPOND TO THE WORLD WE 
ARE BECOMING A PART OF NOW IN A 
POST-COVID ERA.
CANADA'S VOICE IS GOING TO BE 
REALLY IMPORTANT AS IT WAS 
AROUND THE FORMING OF THE BRETON
WOODS INSTITUTIONS, AS WE CREATE
A BETTER, MORE PROSPEROUS, 
FAIRER WORLD FOR EVERYONE.
CANADA HAVING A VOICE AT THE 
U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL WILL ALLOW
US TO CONTINUE TO BE AT THE 
HEART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD AS A PLANET.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] COULD YOU
BE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT 
IN TERMS OF THE ROLE CANADA 
PLAYS IN THE GLOBAL FIGHT 
AGAINST COVID-19 AND HAVE YOU 
USED THIS AS PART OF YOUR 
CAMPAIGN?
AND THERE ARE SOME CANADIANS 
THAT ARE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T 
AGREE.
THERE IS NO UNANIMITY IN CANADA.
HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
>> Answer: WELL, WE HAVE MANAGED
THE SITUATION IN CANADA QUITE 
EFFECTIVELY, BUT WE CAN LEARN 
FROM OUR NEIGHBOURS AND OUR 
ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD, 
INCLUDING MULTILATERAL FORA SUCH
AS THE G7, THE G20, LA FRANK 
PHONIE, THE COMMONWEALTH, AND 
OTHER ONES.
THEY ARE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF OUR
ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND AND MOVE 
FORWARD SAFELY.
ALSO, HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER 
ON THE NEXT STEPS TO DEFEAT THIS
VIRUS.
AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S IMPORTANT
TO REFLECT ON THE FACT THAT THIS
CRISIS WE ARE NOW IN IS OFTEN 
COMPARED TO THE GLOBAL CRISIS 
THAT OCCURRED IN WORLD WAR II 
AND IN THE YEARS FOLLOWING WORLD
WAR II A NUMBER OF INTERNATIONAL
INSTITUTIONS WERE CREATED TO 
GUIDE US IN THE COMING DECADES.
THEY HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY WELL
WHEN IT COMES TO CREATING 
PROSPERITY AROUND THE WORLD.
NOW WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO 
THINK ON WHAT CHANGES AND 
IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE 
INSTITUTIONS ARE NOW NEEDED, SO 
THAT WE CAN MOVE EFFECTIVELY 
TOWARDS THE 21st CENTURY.
CANADA SHOULD AND MUST BE PART 
OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, NOT ONLY 
BECAUSE WE ARE MANAGING TO -- 
MANAGING OUR ECONOMY QUITE WELL 
IN THE MIDST OF THIS CRISIS AND 
REFLECTING OUR VALUES AROUND THE
WORLD, BUT BECAUSE THE NEXT 
STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO 
REBUILDING A GLOBAL ECONOMY AND 
MAKING A FAIR WORLD A MORE 
PROSPEROUS WORLD FOR ALL IS 
SOMETHING CANADA CAN SPEAK TO 
WITH A STRONG VOICE.
THAT'S PRECISELY WHY WE ARE 
SEEKING ANOTHER MEANS OF MAKING 
OUR STRONG VOICE HEARD IN THESE 
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: KEVIN GALLAGHER 
WITH CTV NATIONAL NEWS.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS 
THREATENING TO PULL AMERICAN 
FUNDING FROM THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION AND RECONSIDERING 
HIS COUNTRY'S MEMBERSHIP IN THAT
U.N. AGENCY.
NOW, SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 
HAVE COME TO THE SUPPORT OF THE 
W.H.O.
WHERE DOES CANADA STAND?
>> Answer: CANADA BELIEVES THAT 
MULTILATERAL INSTITUTIONS LIKE 
THE W.H.O. ARE EXTREMELY 
IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY AT A 
TIME OF A GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS 
LIKE THIS ONE.
NO GLOBAL INSTITUTION IS 
PERFECT, AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY
THINGS WE NEED TO WORK ON AND 
THINGS WE NEED TO IMPROVE ABOUT 
MULTILATERALISM AND THAT IS ONE 
OF THE REASONS CANADA HAS BEEN 
SO ACTIVE OVER THE LAST WEEKS 
AND MONTHS IN THIS CRISIS TO 
ADVOCATE FOR A RETHINKING AND 
IMPROVEMENT OF OUR GLOBAL 
INSTITUTIONS AND SITUATIONS IN 
LINE WITH OUR VALUES.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE 
W.H.O., EVEN AS WE LOOK FOR 
IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR MULTILATERAL
SYSTEMS.
>> Question: CHINA HAS ACTUALLY 
PLEDGED $2 BILLION FOR THE 
W.H.O.
OBVIOUSLY LEADING UP TO THIS THE
ORGANIZATION HAS FACED CRITICISM
FOR ITS HANDLING OF 
MISINFORMATION AT THE BEGINNING 
OF THIS OUTBREAK COMING OUT OF 
CHINA.
SO ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS FOR 
YOU THAT THERE'S SUCH A LARGE 
INFLUENCE IN THE TERM OF FUNDING
COMMITMENT FROM CHINA TO THE 
W.H.O.?
>> Answer: I THINK THERE ARE 
ALWAYS GOING TO BE REFLECTIONS 
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN 
THE LARGEST DONORS TO 
MULTILATERAL INSTITUTIONS AND 
THE FUNCTIONING OF THOSE 
MULTILATERAL INSTITUTIONS.
I THINK, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS
CRISIS AND PARTICULARLY COME OUT
OF IT, WE WILL HAVE TO BE ASKING
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INDEPENDENCE
AND THE STRENGTH OF THOSE 
ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO 
THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE 
ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN KEEPING 
EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD SAFE.
THAT BALANCE DOES NEED TO BE 
LOOKED AT CAREFULLY.
THERE WILL BE SOME REAL 
QUESTIONS AROUND CHINA OF COURSE
IN THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS 
THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, AND WE
WILL BE PART OF THAT.
>> Question: JANET SILVER, 
GLOBAL NEWS.
EARLIER IN YOUR OPENING REMARKS 
YOU COMMENTED ON THE SNOWBIRDS 
CRASH OVER THE WEEKEND.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO CAPTAIN 
CASEY'S FAMILY?
HAVE THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS 
ABOUT THE SNOWBIRDS FAMILY AND 
WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THEY 
SHOULD BE GROUNDED?
>> Answer: I HAVE HAD A COUPLE 
OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST 
COUPLE OF DAYS WITH THE MINISTER
OF DEFENCE, AND I KNOW HE AND 
OTHERS ARE CLOSELY ENGAGED WITH 
THE FAMILIES.
I WILL OF COURSE BE SPEAKING TO 
THE FAMILY OF CAPTAIN CASEY AND 
OTHERS.
I THINK THERE ARE VERY GOOD 
QUESTIONS BEING ASKED BY A WHOLE
LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT SAFETY RIGHT
NOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST BY THE 
RCAF.
THERE IS GOING TO BE A PROPER 
INVESTIGATION AND WE'RE GOING TO
ALLOW THEM TO DO THEIR WORK 
BEFORE WE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT
WHAT MIGHT BE THE OUTCOME OF 
THAT INVESTIGATION.
[Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] I HAVE SPOKEN TO 
THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE SEVERAL 
TIMES OVER THE LAST WEEKEND 
ABOUT THIS TERRIBLE TRAGEDY, AND
OF COURSE I WILL BE SPEAKING TO 
THE FAMILIES INVOLVED.
BUT FOR NOW, WE NEED TO ALLOW 
THE ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 
CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION AS TO 
HOW THIS ACCIDENT COULD HAVE 
OCCURRED RATHER THAN JUMPING TO 
THE CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE SAFETY
OF THOSE AIRCRAFT.
[end of translation]. 
>> Question: PRESIDENT TRUMP 
SAYS HE'S BEEN TAKING THE 
MALARIA DRUG, 
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE, FOR ABOUT A 
WEEK AND A HALF NOW AND HE SAYS 
IT'S A GOOD PREVENTIVE APPROACH 
TO GETTING COVID-19.
I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS 
ABOUT WHETHER YOU THINK IT IS A 
GOOD APPROACH?
>> Answer: I WILL CONTINUE TO 
FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF MEDICAL 
PROFESSIONALS AND IMPLORE EVERY 
CANADIAN TO FOLLOW THE BEST 
ADVICE OF OUR MEDICAL HEALTH 
EXPERTS.
>> Rosemary: THAT IS THE PRIME 
MINISTER OF CANADA ON THIS 
TUESDAY JUST OUTSIDE OF HIS 
HOME.
HE IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN 
THE COVID-19 COMMITTEE THAT WILL
KICK OFF AT NOON.
LOTS OF BITS OF NEWS IN THAT 
PRESS CONFERENCE FROM THE P.M. 
TODAY, SPECIFICALLY THAT THE 
CANADA-U.S. BORDER WILL REMAIN 
CLOSED FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS.
IT WAS SET TO EXPIRE IN A COUPLE
OF DAYS' TIME AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER SAID THERE WERE 
CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE 
BORDER TO REACH THIS AGREEMENT 
AND KEEP THAT BORDER CLOSED TO 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL FOR ANOTHER
30 DAYS.
I'LL BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES 
VASSY KAPELOS AND DAVID COCHRANE
TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER BITS OF 
NEWS WE HEARD THERE.
THE OTHER HEADLINE WAS SOME 
CHANGES TO CEBA, THE EMERGENCY 
BUSINESS FILE.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING 
THAT CLOSELY, VASSY.
>> Vassy: YEAH, AND THAT'S 
BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING 
FROM PEOPLE UNABLE TO ACCESS 
THAT.
THIS WAS CONTROLLED OUT WITH THE
WAGE SUBSIDY PROGRAM.
WHAT IT IS IS A $40,000 LOAN.
IF YOU PAY IT BACK BY THE END OF
NEXT YEAR, IT IS INTEREST FREE 
AND A QUARTER OF IT, $10,000, IS
FORGIVABLE.
A HUGE UPTICK, 6,000 BUSINESSES,
HAVE ALREADY ACCESSED THAT.
THE PROCESS IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.
YOU DO IT THROUGH YOUR BANK AND 
IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL FROM MOST 
BUSINESSES WE'VE HEARD FROM.
THE PRIME MINISTER ADDRESSED 
RIGHT AT THE OUTSET, SOLE 
PROPRIETORS WHO PAY THEMSELVES 
THROUGH DIVIDENDS OR WHO HIRE 
CONTRACT WORKERS OR IN A HAIR 
SALON AND ARE A CONTRACT WORKER 
WERE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THAT 
MONEY, WHICH IS TARGET AT YOUR 
FIXED COSTS, RENT, FOR EXAMPLE, 
BILLS.
YOU CAN MAYBE USE THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY.
THE PARAMETERS WERE THAT HAD TO 
HAVE A PAYROLL BETWEEN $20,000 
AND $1.5 MILLION.
THAT'S WHY SO MANY PEOPLE FELT 
LIKE THEY WERE LEFT OUT TODAY.
THAT BASICALLY IS ELIMINATED.
IF YOU ARE PAYING YOURSELF 
THROUGH DIVIDENDS OR IF YOU JUST
WEREN'T ABLE TO ACCESS IT PRIOR 
TO TODAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU 
WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY NOW.
THE DETAILS ON THE TIMELINE WERE
NOT PROVIDED AT THIS POINT, BUT 
WE'LL PAY ATTENTION TO THE 
BRIEFING TO SEE IF THEY'RE MADE 
AVAILABLE THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU 
ARE A NEWER BUSINESS, SO YOU 
HAVEN'T FILED A TAX RETURN YET, 
THOSE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WE'VE 
HEARD FROM AND THE PRIME 
MINISTER SAID MINISTER MARY NG, 
THE MINISTER FOR SMALL 
BUSINESSES, IS WORKING ON A 
POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR THAT.
SO WE'LL PAY ATTENTION TO SEE IF
ANY INFORMATION COMES OUT FROM 
THAT BECAUSE I HEAR FROM A LOT 
OF THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL, THIS IS
GOING TO BE VERY, VERY WELCOME 
NEWS TO A LOT OF SOLE 
PROPRIETORS IN THIS COUNTRY.
I THINK WILL WILL STILL BE 
QUESTIONS OF WHY IT TOOK SO 
LONG.
RIGHT FROM THE FIRST DAY IT WAS 
ANNOUNCED THEY WERE SAYING, WAIT
A SECOND, WE NEED TO ACCESS THAT
TOO.
IT'S BEEN EIGHT WEEKS BUT IT'S 
GOOD THAT IT'S HERE, BUT IT DID 
TAKE A WHILE.
I WILL BE LOOKING FOR THE 
SPECIFICS ON HOW AND WHEN TO 
APPLY AND WHAT CONDITIONS WILL 
BE ON THAT.
THE FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT 
BUSINESS PRAISING THIS DECISION.
>> Rosemary: AN INTEREST-FREE 
LOAN OF $40,000 WOULD BE 
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET RIGHT NOW, 
HAVING THE ABILITY TO GET RIGHT 
OFF $10,000.
I WOULD THINK, VASSY, GETTING 
ANY KIND OF LOAN, GIVEN THE 
STATE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE 
RISK THAT A BANK MIGHT BE ABLE 
TO TAKE ON RIGHT NOW WOULD BE 
DIFFICULT FOR SOME SMALL 
BUSINESSES.
>> Vassy: YEAH, IT DOES SORT OF 
DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF 
THE BUSINESS, BUT THAT $40,000 
NUMBER, FROM PEOPLE I'VE HEARD 
FROM, A, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF 
IT, THE FACT THAT IT'S COME VERY
QUICKLY.
YOU APPLY.
IT'S A SUPER EASY PROCESS 
APPARENTLY THROUGH YOUR BANK AND
IT HAS BEEN A SUCCESS AND VERY 
WELCOME BY THEM.
YEAH, GETTING MONEY FROM YOUR 
BANK RIGHT NOW, THE RISK 
ASSESSMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN IT 
WOULD BE IN NORMAL 
CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT BEEN EASY 
FOR BIGGER BUSINESSES.
THAT'S WHY THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED A LOAN 
PROGRAM THAT HASN'T OPENED UP 
YET, BUT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
SMALL BUSINESSES IF THEY HAVE 
THE CHOICE FOR AN INTEREST-FREE 
LOAN VERSUS ONE WHERE THEY HAVE 
TO PAY INTEREST, THEY WOULD GO 
FOR THE FORMER.
THE COMMERCIAL RENT PROGRAM, 
WE'RE STILL ANXIOUSLY WAITING 
FOR DETAILS ON THAT.
I KEEP HEARING FROM SMALL 
BUSINESSES ON THAT.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO APPLY TO 
APRIL, MAY, AND JUNE.
THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT 
SUBSIDIZE THROUGH THE LANDLORDS.
THERE ARE SOME DETAILS OUT 
THROUGH THE CMHC, BUT THE 
GOVERNMENT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO 
CONFIRM THEM.
THOSE DETAILS NOT FORMALIZED.
A LOT OF LANDLORDS NOT SURE IF 
THEY WILL PARTICIPATE.
THE LAST MONTH IT WOULD APPLY TO
IS 11 DAYS AWAY.
ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR THOSE 
DETAILS.
>> Rosemary: ANOTHER ONE OF 
THOSE CROSS-JURISDICTIONAL 
ISSUES THAT TEND TO BE MORE 
COMPLICATED.
DAVID, THE ISSUE ON THE BORDER, 
NOT SURPRISING, BUT A RELIEF TO 
PEOPLE WORRIED WHO ARE SEEING 
THE CASES IN THE UNITED STATES 
AND REALIZING OPENING UP THE 
BORDER DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
>> David: THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE
TO PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO 
BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER.
TRANSMISSION ISSUES IN ONTARIO, 
QUEBEC, AND ALL OVER THE 
UNITED STATES.
INTERESTINGLY, THE PRIME 
MINISTER IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS 
TALKED ABOUT THE BORDER CLOSING 
DOWN BUT ALSO LOOKING TO WHEN 
THE WORLD OPENS UP AND A BID FOR
A SEAT ON THE U.N. SECURITY 
COUNCIL AND A PROCESS OF 
REFLECTION HE HOPES THE 
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WILL GO 
THROUGH, STRENGTHENING THE WORLD
HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND CHANGING
HOW OUR INTERNATIONAL 
INSTITUTIONS OPERATE 
POST-COVID-19, COMPARING IT TO 
THE POST-SECOND WORLD WAR ERA 
WITH THE BRETON WOODS CONFERENCE
THAT LED TO THE CREATION OF MANY
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WHICH
GUIDED THE PEACE AND STABILITY 
FOLLOWING THE SECOND WORLD WAR 
AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE
THAT SPIRIT OF ENHANCED 
MULTILATERAL COOPERATION AFTER 
ALL OF THIS, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE 
SEEN IN THE RISE OF ISOLATION 
AND NATIONALISM IN THE 
UNITED KINGDOM, RUSSIA, THE 
UNITED STATES, CHINA, AND 
TENSIONS IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE 
CONFLICTS AND THE TIGHTENING OF 
BORDERS, WHEN WE GO GET TO A 
POINT WE CAN LOOSEN BORDERS 
AFTER THE HEALTH RISK 
DIMINISHES, IF NOT GOES AWAY, 
WHAT SORT OF A WORLD WILL WE BE 
LEFT WITH.
IT'S SOMETHING THE PRIME 
MINISTER HAS GIVEN THOUGHT TO.
WE HAVE SEEN THE READ-OUT OF ALL
THE INTERNATIONAL LEADERS HE'S 
SPOKEN TO AS WE GET CLOSER TO A 
CAMPAIGN FOR THAT SEAT.
IT'S INTERESTING HOW HE VIEWS 
WHAT CANADA'S ROLE COULD BE IN A
POST-COVID-19 INTERNATIONAL 
ORDER, INCLUDING THE IMPROVEMENT
AND REFORM OF THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION.
CANADA NOT FOLLOWING THE 
UNITED STATES' LEAD OF YANKING 
FUNDING AND WAGGING ITS FINGER 
SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR
INVESTIGATION AND INQUIRY INTO 
WHAT HAPPENED, BUT LEANING 
TOWARDS STRENGTHENING AND FIXING
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, 
INSTEAD OF BURNING IT TO THE 
GROUND AS SOME WOULD HAVE THEM 
DO.
>> Rosemary: THIS GOVERNMENT IS 
A BIG PROPONENT OF 
MULTILATERALISM AND MULTILATERAL
ORGANIZATIONS, BUT DOES GO THAT 
THE PRIME MINISTER IS SAYING 
THAT IS A STRONGER ARGUMENT FOR 
WHY CANADA SHOULD WIN THAT SEAT 
AT THE SECURITY COUNCIL, THAT IT
COULD PLAY THAT ROLE IN A WAY 
THAT IS MORE NEEDED, GIVEN WHAT 
WE'RE LIVING WITH NOW.
>> David: HE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S HIS INTERNATIONAL AGENDA.
ON HIS CANADA AGENDA, HE WAS 
SAYING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
PREPARED TO INVEST IN A NATIONAL
FRAMEWORK ON TESTING AND 
TRACING.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE 
APPROACH BY THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT BY AND LARGE HAS BEEN
TO ALLOW THE PROVINCES TO MAKE 
DECISIONS IN THEIR OWN 
JURISDICTION AND ACTING AS A 
BANKER AND A BACKER AS NEEDED, 
BUT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE TESTING
AND TRACING GET TO THE LEVELS 
THE COUNTRY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE 
AND WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE IT 
TO BE, PARTICULARLY IN ONTARIO 
AND QUEBEC WHICH IS THE 
EPICENTRE.
HE IS SAYING WE ARE HERE AND 
WE'RE GOING TO RAMP UP AND 
INVEST IN THIS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE
PROVINCES ON BOARD AND 
JURISDICTIONAL ISSUES WILL BE A 
THING THERE, BUT A FORCEFUL 
MESSAGE FROM THE PRIME MINISTER 
THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE ON THIS, 
THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE ON 
THIS, AND DECLARING IN A PUBLIC 
WAY THAT THEY HAVE THE INTENTION
TO MOVE ON THIS.
I THINK THIS WEEK WHEN HE HAS 
HIS WEEKLY CALL WITH THE OTHER 
FIRST MINISTERS MIGHT BE A 
CHANCE TO PUT SOME MOMENTUM 
BEHIND THIS IDEA, THAT THE 
OFFICIALS WILL BE DEALING WITH 
ON A FAIRLY CONSISTENT BASIS TO 
FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
>> Rosemary: IT LOOKS LIKE THE 
TESTING IN ONTARIO IS DROPPING 
DOWN TO NUMBERS THAT THE 
GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT WANT TO 
SEE.
I WILL COME BACK TO BOTH OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AS WE TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY 
REOPENING, IT IS SOME REOPENING 
ACROSS BIG PARTS OF CANADA, 
BRITISH COLUMBIA, SASKATCHEWAN, 
ONTARIO, THEY'RE ALL FREEING 
SOME REIGNS ON THE ECONOMY.
LET'S SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE 
BUSINESS OWNERS.
IN TORONTO IS RAMI HALA LEE WHO 
OWNS A CLOTHING STORE AND IN 
VANCOUVER IS DR. KUMAR RIJA.
I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU.
YOU OWN A COTTON RETAIL BUSINESS
AND YOU COULD REOPEN, BUT YOU 
DECIDED NOT TO.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR THINKING.
>> Interview: WE HAVE STORES IN 
VANCOUVER, TORONTO, AND 
MONTREAL.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE 
PUTTING OUT DECISIONS, WE ARE 
TAKING CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND
CUSTOMERS RIGHT ACROSS THOSE 
LOCATIONS.
SO WE'RE NOT OPENING YET UNTIL 
WE SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, SEE 
WHAT THE BUSINESSES THAT OPEN 
TODAY AND IN THE COMING DAYS DO.
FOR US, WE'RE PLANNING ON 
OPENING JUNE 1.
AND THAT WILL BE BY CURBSIDE 
PICKUP AND BY APPOINTMENT.
WE WILL GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES TIME 
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS NEW 
REALITY LOOKS LIKE AND WORK FROM
THERE. 
>> Rosemary: DO YOU HAVE WHAT 
YOU NEED IN PLACE TO DO THIS, 
PLEXIGLASS OR P.P.E.?
>> Interview: THAT'S A PART OF 
IT.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT CAME LAST WEEK 
OR THE WEEK BEFORE.
NOT TOO MUCH TIME FOR US TO RAMP
UP AND GET PROCEDURES IN PLACE.
TO BE HONEST, FOR THE LAST EIGHT
OR 10 WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN IN A 
HOLD PATTERN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 
THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND 
THIS NEW REALITY WILL LOOK LIKE.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE SAFETY 
OF OUR TEAM IS PARAMOUNT.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PRIORITIZING.
JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE 
PUTTING THOSE PIECES IN PLACE 
NOW TO GO JUNE 1.
>> Rosemary: HOW HAS YOUR 
BUSINESS BEEN DOING?
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN 
ONLINE COMPONENT, BUT HOW HAVE 
YOU BEEN DOING SINCE THE 
SHUTDOWN?
>> Interview: YES, WE'RE A 
PRIMARILY ONLINE BUSINESS, SO 
FOR US THAT PIECE OF OUR 
BUSINESS HAS CONTINUED TO EXIST 
AND HAS LITTLE TO NO DISRUPTION.
RETAIL DOES MAKE UP A PIECE OF 
THE PUZZLE FOR US WHICH HAS 
DEFINITELY BEEN DIFFICULT, BUT 
THIS IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION 
FOR EVERYONE.
THE RETAIL INDUSTRY IN GENERAL 
HAS BEEN HARD HIT, AS WELL AS 
THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.
THE ONLINE BUSINESS HAS SEEN 
SOME INCREASE KIND OF I WOULD 
SAY -- IT HASN'T MADE UP FOR THE
DECREASE IN RETAIL, BUT 
DEFINITELY SOME OF THAT OVERFLOW
FROM PHYSICAL RETAIL HAS GONE 
ONLINE, BUT WE'VE BEEN CLOSED TO
CLOSE TO THREE MONTHS NOW.
>> Rosemary: HAVE YOU OR WILL 
YOU TAP INTO ANY OF THE 
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS, THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY, THE RENTAL OFFER, THE 
BUSINESS LOAN THAT WE WERE JUST 
TALKING ABOUT THERE?
>> Interview: YEAH, SO WE'VE 
TAPPED INTO THE BUSINESS LOAN.
WE WERE ABLE TO TAP INTO IT KIND
OF IN THE SECOND GO.
I KNOW THEY MADE SOME 
ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SIZE OF THE 
PAYROLL.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAP INTO 
THAT.
THE WAGE SUBSIDY RIGHT NOW, 
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.
I KNOW THAT MANY MEMBERS OF THE 
START-UP COMMUNITY HAVE SPOKEN 
ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY WERE SAYING
YEAR OVER YEAR THAT EXCLUDED A 
LARGE OR A SIGNIFICANT 
PROPORTION OF EMPLOYERS THAT HAD
BEEN GOING BEYOND THAT 
[Indiscernible].
WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO QUALIFY 
FOR THAT, WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL 
DETERMINATION THERE YET.
WE DO QUALIFY FOR THAT 10% PIECE
THAT THEY ANNOUNCED EARLY ON, SO
WE HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
>> Rosemary: DO YOU THINK THAT 
THIS HAS HAPPENED AT THE RIGHT 
SPEED?
IT'S HARD TO KNOW OBVIOUSLY, BUT
ONTARIO, KINS THE CASES HAVE 
BEEN SO NUMEROUS, IT'S GONE 
SLOWER.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WHAT'S GONE 
ON IN TERMS OF REOPENING?
>> Interview: I THINK FOR 
ONTARIO SPECIFICALLY THE NUMBERS
ARE STILL GOING UP.
I DON'T THINK THE TESTING AND 
THE TRACING IS WHERE PEOPLE 
WOULD LIKE IT TO BE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE CAUTIOUS AND 
TAKING THIS MORE CAUTIOUS 
APPROACH, DELAYING THE OPENING A
LITTLE BIT.
WHEN WE DO OPEN, WE'RE GOING TO 
LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE 
CAN HAVE IN OUR SPACES AND REACT
FROM THERE.
AS YOU SAID ONE OF OUR OTHER 
LOCATIONS IS IN QUEBEC, WHICH IS
THE OTHER EPICENTRE OF ALL OF 
THIS IN CANADA.
SO THOSE TWO PLACES, WE'RE 
KEEPING A VERY CLOSE WATCH OVER 
THAT.
VANCOUVER IS A LITTLE BETTER, 
BUT NOT FAR BEHIND.
>> Rosemary: YOU HAD A STORE IN 
NEW YORK?
>> Interview: YEAH, WE DID.
WE WERE ABOUT TO SIGN A 
LONG-TERM SPACE THERE RIGHT 
BEFORE ALL THIS HAPPENED.
SO WE HAVE PUT A PAUSE ON THE 
EXPANSION IN NEW YORK FOR NOW 
AND WE WILL CIRCLE BACK 
HOPEFULLY ONCE THINGS GO BACK TO
NORMAL.
>> Rosemary: RAMI HELALI, NICE 
TO MEET YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
HE'S A CO-FOUNDER OF KOTN, A 
RETAIL BUSINESS.
LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT BUSINESS 
BECAUSE B.C. IS GOING TO REOPEN.
DR. KUMAR SHIVDARASMI OPERATES A
SKIN CLINIC THERE.
YOU'RE GOING TO CORRECT ME.
I SEE IT.
SHIVDASANI, THAT'S MUCH EASIER.
YOU ARE OPENING TODAY.
TELL ME HOW YOU'VE PREPARED.
>> WELL, MY TIME AT THE 
HOSPITAL, I HAD A SENSE THIS WAS
NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS 
USUAL WHEN WE OPENED UP AGAIN.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO PROCURE 
P.P.E. AND -- WE'VE NOT EVEN 
ANNOUNCED OUR OPENING.
WE WANTED TO GO INTO IT SLOWLY.
WE'VE HAD CLIENTS CONTACTING IN 
AND BOOKING WITH US.
WE'VE BEEN BOOKING 15 MINUTES 
ADDITIONAL IN BETWEEN EVERY 
CLIENT AND PATIENT TO ALLOW FOR 
CLEANING AND FEWER PEOPLE IN OUR
WAITING AREA.
WE HAVE A LARGE WAITING AREA TO 
BEGIN WITH.
WE'RE SLOWING DOWN THE PATIENT 
FLOW AND BUILT ANOTHER TREATMENT
ROOM TO ALLOW FOR MORE SPACE FOR
THE TREATMENT.
I'VE HIRED MORE STAFF.
WE'RE EXPANDING OUR HOURS, AGAIN
NOT TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE IN 
THE SPACE AT ONCE. 
>> Rosemary: I WOULD IMAGINE 
BECAUSE YOU'RE A SKIN CARE 
CENTRE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS
THAT OTHER BUSINESSES ARE TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, WHETHER
IT BE P.P.E. OR EQUIPMENT TO 
DISINFECT.
HAS THAT GIVEN YOU A BIT OF AN 
ADVANTAGE?
>> YEAH, WE -- I REMEMBER BEING 
AT THE SUPERSTORE BUYING THE 
HAND SANITIZER FOR MY CLINIC AND
WE HAD THESE -- I'M GOING TO 
SHOW YOU ONE.
WE HAD THESE BIG -- A BUNCH OF 
THESE BACK IN JANUARY.
AND I THOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW FOR 
HOW MANY WE'LL NEED.
MAYBE WE'LL GET A FEW -- THEY'RE
THE COLOUR OF MY CLINIC AND GET 
A FEW ANYWAY.
WE WERE BUYING QUITE A FEW HAND 
SANITIZER, GLOVES.
WE HAVE A CLEANING SERVICE THAT 
COMES IN TO CLEAN.
WE SANITIZE OUR EQUIPMENT 
BETWEEN CLIENTS, BETWEEN 
PATIENTS ANYWAY.
SO MUCH OF WHAT WE WERE DOING WE
WERE DOING ALREADY.
I MEAN, WE DIDN'T TEND TO 
NECESSARILY -- MY TECHNICIANS, 
LASER TECHNICIANS, WILL NOW BE 
WEARING FACE SHIELDS WHICH WE 
DIDN'T TYPICALLY WEAR.
WE DIDN'T TYPICALLY WEAR 
GOGGLES.
THESE WERE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO
BE SOURCED OUT AND OBTAINED.
>> Rosemary: ARE YOU WORRIED 
ABOUT YOUR SAFETY OR YOUR 
STAFF'S SAFETY, GIVEN THE 
PROXIMITY OF THE WORK THAT YOU 
HAVE TO DO ON YOUR CLIENTS AND 
YOUR PATIENTS?
>> WORRY ISN'T -- I DON'T THINK 
"WORRY" QUITE WORKS FOR ME.
I THINK WE'RE DOING ABSOLUTELY 
EVERYTHING TO REDUCE THE RISK OF
PROTECTING OURSELVES AND OUR 
PATIENTS.
SHORT OF JUST NOT SEEING ANYBODY
EVER AGAIN AND JUST STAYING IN 
MY OWN HOME, I THINK THIS IS -- 
I FEEL CONFIDENT.
WE'VE TAKEN ALL THE MEASURES 
SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW.
WE'RE INSTITUTING 
QUESTIONNAIRES.
PEOPLE ARE -- BEFORE THEY GET TO
CONFIRM THEIR APPOINTMENT, WE'RE
SENDING THEM QUESTIONNAIRES, 
DOCUMENT, HAVE YOU BEEN -- HAVE 
YOU HAD SYMPTOMS?
HAVE YOU BEEN NEAR ANYBODY WHO'S
TESTED POSITIVE?
HAVE YOU BEEN TRAVELLING?
AND WE'LL BE QUESTIONING THEM 
AGAIN AS THEY COME IN THE DOOR.
WE'VE GOT HAND SANITIZER 
EVERYWHERE.
WE'RE REALLY EXPERIENCED SEEING 
PATIENTS BEFORE COVID-19.
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE PRIME
MINISTER EVERY MORNING IN HIS 
DAILY REPORT.
WE'VE HAD BONNIE HENRY SPEAKING 
TO US IN B.C. EVERY AFTERNOON.
WE TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL 
DISTANCING.
I MEAN, IT'S PHYSICAL DISTANCING
OF COURSE, BUT THE SENSE OF -- I
DON'T KNOW, I'VE REALLY ENJOYED 
THIS AND NEVER FELT BETTER BEING
A CANADIAN, LISTENING TO THE 
PRIME MINISTER, LISTENING TO 
BONNIE HENRY, COMING TOGETHER TO
COME THROUGH THIS TOGETHER.
I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MANY 
COLLEAGUES IN MY BUSINESS, 
DOCTORS IN GENERAL, I WORK AT 
THE HOSPITAL AS I SAID.
THEY WERE REALLY KIND ENOUGH 
WORKING TOGETHER AND THERE'S 
BEEN SUCH CAMARADERIE AND COMING
TOGETHER HELPING EACH OTHER TO 
DO THIS.
AS DIFFICULT AND EVEN SCARY AS 
TIMES ARE, I THINK IT'S 
REALLY -- IT'S US WORKING 
TOGETHER AND HELPING EACH OTHER 
THAT'S REALLY GOING TO GET US 
THROUGH THIS.
IT'S REALLY MADE ME DETERMINED 
TO DO BETTER FOR MY PATIENTS.
>> Rosemary: THAT IS A LOVELY 
REFLECTION TO END ON, DOCTOR.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE 
TIME.
MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT DOING A 
GOOD JOB WITH YOUR NAME.
DR. KUMAR SHIVDASANI, IT SOUNDS 
LIKE YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF 
THINGS TO GET THE CENTRE 
REOPENED AND TO PROTECT YOUR 
STAFF.
I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME FOR
US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Rosemary: NICE TO MEET YOU.
>>> AS WE WAIT FOR OUR REGULAR 
BRIEFING THAT HAPPENS AT THE TOP
OF THE HOUR WITH FEDERAL CABINET
MINISTERS AND PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS.
I AM DIFFICULT WITH NAMES THAT 
ARE DIFFICULT AND BOTH OF THOSE 
GENTLEMEN TESTED ME, BUT BOTH 
HAD INTERESTING STORIES ABOUT 
EITHER THE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT 
PROCESS THAT GOES BEHIND 
REOPENING A MEDICAL SKIN CARE 
CENTRE, AS YOU SAW WITH 
DR. SHIVDASANI, OR A RETAIL 
STORE WHERE YOU DON'T FEEL READY
AND YOU FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR 
PROTECTING EVERYBODY.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THESE 
SMALLER AND LARGER BUSINESSES 
ARE HAVING TO DO TO GET READY 
FOR THE REOPENING OF THE ECONOMY
THAT WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IN
SOME WAY, BUT KNOWING THE ONUS 
IS REALLY ON THEM TO MAKE SURE 
THEIR BUSINESSES ARE WELL 
PREPARED FOR THIS.
VASSY.
>> Vassy: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD 
WAY TO PUT IT AND BOTH OF THOSE 
STORIES WERE EMBLEMATIC OF THE 
REGIONAL ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY.
THIS HAS BEEN ACCENTUATED IN THE
LAST WEEK.
TAKE B.C., EIGHT CASES OVER THE 
LAST DAYS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT TRIPLE DIGITS 
IN ONTARIO, A LACK OF TESTING, 
AND INCONSISTENCIES WHEN IT 
COMES TO TESTING.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT 20,000, 
AND IT VERY RARELY IS CLOSE TO 
THAT.
I THINK YOU GOT THAT SENSE FROM 
THE FIRST BUSINESS OWNER WHO WAS
TALKING ABOUT REOPENING PART OF 
HIS OPERATION IN ONTARIO AND THE
NERVES THAT THOSE BUSINESSES 
FEEL.
TORONTO MAYOR JOHN TORY EVEN 
TALKED ABOUT WHO IS SUPPOSED TO 
BE TAKING CARE OF THIS P.P.E.?
IS IT COMING FROM THE 
GOVERNMENT, IS IT THE BUSINESS, 
IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE A 
PARTNERSHIP?
NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.
I HEAR FROM A LOT OF BUSINESSES 
WHO ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY 
NAVIGATING THAT.
IN B.C. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THE 
RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON 
BUSINESSES, BUT THEY ARE DEALING
WITH A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION 
RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE OPENING RESTAURANTS AT 
50% CAPACITY WITH DIFFERENT 
RULES.
THEY JUST EXTENDED THE ORDER IN 
ONTARIO THAT LIMITS GATHERINGS 
TO FIVE PEOPLE.
FOR ME IT ACCENTUATES THE 
REGIONAL DIFFERENCES AND ALSO 
ACCENTUATES THE ISSUES BEHIND A 
LACK OF CONGRUENCY OR A LACK OF 
CONSISTENCY ABOUT WHAT DO I NEED
IN ORDER TO REOPEN SAFELY. 
>> Rosemary: DAVID, THIS SPEAKS 
TO WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE, THE 
NEED MAY BE FOR A NATIONAL PIECE
ON THE TRACING AND TESTING 
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY EACH PROVINCE 
IS STRUGGLING IN DIFFERENT WAYS 
AND THAT TRICKLES DOWN TO THE 
REST OF US TOO.
>> David: SOME OF THE COUNTRY 
HAS A REAL ROBUST SYSTEM OF 
TESTING AND TRACING.
TO BUILD ON THE B.C. EXAMPLE 
VASSY WAS TALKING ABOUT, BONNIE 
HENRY DESCRIBED IT, IT BRINGS 
ANTICIPATION IN THE REOPENING, 
BUT ALSO APPREHENSION AND 
ANXIETY.
THAT IS THE CHALLENGE FOR A LOT 
OF PEOPLE AS WE GO INTO THIS 
GREAT UNKNOWN OF WHAT THE 
REOPENING IS AND HOW SAFE IS IT.
THE SUPPLY OF BUSINESSES WILL BE
THERE MORE AS REOPENINGS HAPPEN.
WILL THE DEMAND BE THERE, WILL 
PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH 
TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THESE 
SERVICES NOW THAT THEY'VE 
STARTED DOING THESE THINGS 
THEMSELVES OR ARE PICKING UP 
CURBSIDE.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S WHAT THESE 
BUSINESSES ARE TRYING TO DO, TO 
SHORE UP SUPPORT.
WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.
WE ARE STANDING BY THIS HOUR FOR
THE FEDERAL CABINET MINISTERS' 
BRIEFING.
MORE DETAILS ON THE CANADA 
EMERGENCY BUSINESS ACCOUNT LOAN 
PROGRAM THAT THE PRIME MINISTER 
HAS ANNOUNCED HAS WIDENED A 
LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO CAPTURE 
SOME OF THE PEOPLE IT HAD LEFT 
OUT AND ALSO CONFIRMATION THIS 
MORNING THAT THE U.S.-CANADA 
BORDER WILL REMAIN CLOSED TO 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL.
WE WILL HAVE MORE AFTER THIS 
SHORT BREAK.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON.
YOU'RE WATCHING CBC NEWS 
NETWORK.
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>> Rosemary: HI AGAIN.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON HERE IN THE 
NATION'S CAPITAL.
THANKS FOR JOINING US ON CBC 
NEWS NETWORK AND STREAMING 
WHEREVER YOU MIGHT BE AROUND THE
WORLD, ON OUR WEBSITE, AND OUR 
APP.
THIS HOUR LOTS OF NEWS COMING 
FROM THE PRIME MINISTER AFTER 
HIS DAILY PANDEMIC ADDRESS.
CANADA BORDER RESTRICTIONS WITH 
THE UNITED STATES WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS TO 
JUNE 30.
THE AGREEMENT WAS SET TO EXPIRE.
THERE WILL BE SUPPORT FOR SMALL 
BUSINESSES THROUGH THE CANADA 
BUSINESS ACCOUNT THAT ALLOWS FOR
INTEREST-FREE LOANS.
SO FAR 6,000 BUSINESSES HAVE 
APPLIED AND RECEIVED FUNDS UNDER
THAT PROGRAM.
NOW IT HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO 
CAPTURE PEOPLE WHO HAD NOT BEEN 
CAPTURED IN THE INITIAL 
CRITERIA.
WE WILL BRING YOU UPDATES FROM 
THE LEADERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, 
INCLUDING NOW FEDERAL CABINET 
MINISTERS IN THIS CITY AS WELL 
AS FEDERAL PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS.
SO MANY COVID-19 DEATHS, 
LONG-TERM CARE IN ONTARIO HAS 
ANNOUNCED CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM 
HERE.
THE CBC'S MIKE CRAWLEY JOINS ME 
FROM HIS HOME IN TORONTO.
WHAT DID THE MINISTER HAVE TO 
SAY ABOUT THIS, MIKE?
>> Reporter: ROSEMARY, MARY LEE 
FULTON ANNOUNCED THIS WILL BEGIN
IN SEPTEMBER, AN INDEPENDENT 
NON-PARTISAN COMMISSION.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DETAILS 
ABOUT IT, REFERENCE CHECKS, NO 
IDEA WHO WILL BE ON THIS 
COMMISSION, WHAT SORT OF A 
TIME-FRAME TO REPORT ON THIS.
SHE WAS QUESTIONED IN QUESTION 
PERIOD AND HERE IS WHAT SHE HAD 
TO SAY.
>> OUR GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING AT 
CAPACITY AND WAIT LISTS, EXPERT 
PANEL FOR A STAFFING STRATEGY.
WE HAVE BEEN MOVING DECISIVELY 
AND SWIFTLY BECAUSE ONTARIANS 
DESERVE IT.
>> Reporter: THIS FALLS SHORT OF
WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 
ASKING FOR.
THEY WANT A FULL INDEPENDENT 
PUBLIC INQUIRY LED BY A JUDGE 
WITH A FULL MANDATE TO EXPLORE 
EVERYTHING AROUND THE LONG-TERM 
CARE SYSTEM.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS INQUIRIES 
INTO SARS AND ELIZABETH 
WETLAUFER'S KILLING OF PEOPLE IN
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES.
THIS IS NOT A FULL PUBLIC 
INQUIRY.
>> Rosemary: IT WOULD SEEM THAT 
PERHAPS THE GOVERNMENT WAS 
FORCED TO MAKE SOME ANNOUNCEMENT
BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF 
PRESSURE, NOT ONLY FROM 
OPPOSITION PARTIES BUT THE 
PUBLIC AT LARGE.
YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF THE 
MANDATE MIGHT CHANGE IF PEOPLE 
DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE 
TERMS, BUT WHAT KIND OF REACTION
ARE YOU HEARING SO FAR?
>> Reporter: FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM, WHAT'S THE 
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN 
INDEPENDENT COMMISSION, A PUBLIC
INQUIRY, A REVIEW, IT SOUNDS 
LIKE SEMANTICS.
THE N.D.P. CLEARLY HAS BEEN 
PUSHING FOR AN INDEPENDENT 
PUBLIC INQUIRY BECAUSE THE FORD 
GOVERNMENT HAS HELD WHAT THEY 
CALL INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONS IN 
THE TWO YEARS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN
IN GOVERNMENT AND THE LAST 
INDEPENDENT COMMISSION THAT THE 
FORD GOVERNMENT HAD WAS LOOKING 
INTO THE FINANCES OF ONTARIO AND
IT CAME UP WITH A NUMBER THAT 
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT LED A 
$15 BILLION DEFICIT WHICH IS THE
NUMBER THE GOVERNMENT WANTED IT 
TO UNCOVER AND LATER TURNED OUT 
TO BE NOT TRUE.
THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS WHETHER
THIS IS THE OPPOSITION 
INDEPENDENT N.D.P. SAID IT WAS 
SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
ANDREA HORWATH SPOKE IN QUESTION
PERIOD AS WELL.
>> NO ONE HAS ASKED FOR ANOTHER 
FORD GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED 
COMMISSION.
WE OWE IT TO THE STAFF AND 
RESIDENTS WHO LOVE THEIR LIVES 
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS, WE
OWE IT TO THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, 
THEIR FRIENDS, THEIR 
COMMUNITIES.
>> Reporter: LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH
LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE 
VIRUS WAS ALLOWED TO GET INTO 
ONTARIO'S LONG-TERM CARE HOMES 
AT A TIME THEY KNEW THE PANDEMIC
WAS COMING.
MOST OF THOSE DEATHS, ROSEMARY, 
HAPPENED AFTER THE END OF MARCH 
WHEN PREMIER DOUG FORD SAID 
WE'RE PUTTING AN IRON RING 
AROUND SENIORS IN ONTARIO.
SO IT'S CURIOUS AS TO WHY SOME 
OF THE STAFF DEVELOPED 
INFECTIONS AND SO MANY 
RESIDENTS, THOUSANDS OF 
RESIDENTS, CAME DOWN WITH 
COVID-19 INFECTIONS AND 1,600 
PEOPLE WITH DIED.
>> Rosemary: WE CERTAINLY KNOW 
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TOO VERY 
MUCH WANTING TO HAVE A 
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THIS 
UNFOLDED AFTER IT'S OVER.
MIKE CRAWLEY IN TORONTO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
APPRECIATE IT.
I WILL BRING BACK MY COLLEAGUES 
THE HOST OF "POWER & POLITICS," 
VASSY KAPELOS, AND DAVID 
COCHRANE, AS WE WAIT FOR CABINET
MINISTERS AND PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS.
THOSE TWO DAYS OFF HAS FRIED MY 
BRAIN.
I THINK IT'S THE PRESSURE ON 
GOVERNMENTS, FIRST PROBABLY AT 
THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL BECAUSE IT 
IS THEIR JURISDICTION, WILL BE 
INTENSE TO START TO GET ANSWERS 
FOR PEOPLE ON WHAT COULD HAVE 
BEEN DONE BETTER, WHAT WENT 
WRONG, AND WHAT THE PROBLEMS 
WERE, WHETHER IT WAS STAFFING, 
INFRASTRUCTURE, OR FUNDING.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS IS THE ONLY
INDEPENDENT COMMISSION OR 
INQUIRY WE WILL SEE ABOUT 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES IN THIS 
COUNTRY, VASSY.
>> Vassy: AND THE QUESTION WILL 
THERE BE ONE AT THE FEDERAL 
LEVEL AS WELL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IN ONTARIO THERE 
WILL BE SOMETHING, BUT TO MIKE'S
POINT IT'S NOT WHAT THE 
OPPOSITION WANTED LOOKING BACK 
AND WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR 
EVER FOR THE RESULTS OF THAT OR 
THAT'S THEIR INTENT AND WHAT 
THEY SAID TODAY.
THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS IN 
QUEBEC AND NOVA SCOTIA AND 
QUESTIONS ABOUT CONTINUING CARE 
IN CERTAIN PARTS OF ALBERTA AS 
WELL.
MOST OF US HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO 
THE MODEL OF B.C., WHICH THE 
GOVERNMENT THERE ACTED A LOT 
EARLIER ON SOME OF THE 
CONDITIONS IT PLACED ON 
LONG-TERM CARE HOMES.
BUT THOSE CONDITIONS STILL 
UNDERLINE THE MAJOR ISSUES IN 
THIS COUNTRY, WHICH IS THEY 
LIMITED THE NUMBER OF HOMES 
PEOPLE COULD WORK IN.
WHY ARE PEOPLE WORKING IN MORE 
THAN ONE HOME?
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE ENOUGH 
MONEY IN JUST ONE HOME.
AND THE PAY BEING A PROBLEM IN 
MANY PROVINCES, WHICH POINTS TO 
THE PROSPECT OF THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT LOOKING INTO THIS.
THE OTHER THING THAT A LOT OF 
PROVINCES ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND
THEY HAVE BEEN TO BE FAIR FOR 
YEARS, IS MORE MONEY FROM THE 
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN HEALTH 
TRANSFERS.
THEY HAVE ASKED FOR MORE.
THE ESCALATOR WAS KEPT TO WHAT 
WAS PROMISED BY THE PREVIOUS 
GOVERNMENT.
WILL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE
A CERTAIN POCKET OF MONEY TO 
INCREASE FUNDING FOR LONG-TERM 
CARE IN THIS COUNTRY AND WILL 
THERE BE STRINGS ATTACHED.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO 
INTERVIEW A NUMBER OF PREMIERS 
ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF THAT AND 
MOST OF THEM ARE NONE TOO 
PLEASED ABOUT THAT IDEA.
THEY'RE PROTECTIVE OF THEIR 
JURISDICTION OVER LONG-TERM 
CARE, BUT THERE WILL BE BIG 
QUESTIONS FROM THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT IF THEY'RE GOING TO 
HAND OVER MORE MONEY, WHICH 
MIGHT BE VERY NECESSARY ABOUT 
WHAT KINDS OF STRINGS THEY COULD
ATTACH TO THAT MONEY.
I THINK ALREADY PREMIERS ARE 
S
RESISTING THAT.
BUT DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF 
COMMISSIONS LIKE WHAT ONTARIO 
JUST ANNOUNCED, THEY MIGHT NOT 
HAVE A CHOICE.
>> Rosemary: THIS IS NOTHING NEW
TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 
PROVINCES AND TERRITORIES WITH 
WAIT TIMES.
PROVINCES MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT 
IF ONTARIO IS BANK ROLLING A 
FIX, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT 
TO DEMAND CERTAIN ISSUES.
I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECOND, DAVID. 
>> David: STRINGS ATTACHED, NOT 
A NEW THING.
COMPLAINING ABOUT STRINGS 
ATTACHED, ALSO NOT A NEW THING.
OFTEN THEY GET TO THE END OF THE
NEGOTIATION WHERE THEY TAKE THE 
MONEY AND THE STRINGS BECAUSE 
THEY WANT AN EXPANSION OF THE 
HEALTH SERVICES OF THE PEOPLE 
THEY REPRESENT.
WE SAW THIS WITH THE MENTAL 
HEALTH STRATEGY.
THE PROVINCES WANT IT POURED 
INTO THE BASE TRANSFER.
THE FEDS SAY THAT EATS INTO 
CHARGES AND NOT AN EXPANSION OF 
SERVICES.
TOUCHING ON WHAT VASSY SAID 
ABOUT THE WORKFORCE.
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T
GET ENOUGH HOURS AND MAKE ENOUGH
MONEY, BUT THEY'RE HIRED AS PART
TIME AND DON'T HAVE TO BE PAID 
BENEFITS.
PEOPLE ARE MAKING MINIMUM WAGE 
AND TAKING MAXIMUM RISK.
THE WHOLE LABOUR SITUATION IN 
THESE HOMES NEEDS TO BE LOOKED 
AT AS WELL AS THE GOVERNANCE.
>> Rosemary: THANK YOU BOTH VERY
MUCH.
I'LL TAKE YOU TO THE DAILY 
BRIEFING.
THIS IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE 
TREASURE BOARD, JEAN-YVES 
DUCLOS.
>> MINISTER OF SMALL BUSINESS, 
EXPORT, AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE,
AS WELL AS MINISTER ANAND.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
AS USUAL, I WILL START WITH THE 
LATEST NUMBERS ON COVID-19 IN 
CANADA.
THERE ARE NOW 78,499 CASES, 
INCLUDING 5,857 DEATHS, WITH 
39,498 CASES, OR 50%, NOW 
RECOVERED.
LABS ACROSS CANADA HAVE TESTED 
OVER 1,337,000 PEOPLE FOR 
COVID-19 TO DATE, WITH ABOUT 5% 
OF THESE TESTING POSITIVE 
OVERALL.
WE ARE NOW TESTING AN AVERAGE OF
26 TO 28,000 PEOPLE DAILY.
THESE NUMBERS CHANGE DAILY AND 
ARE UPDATED DAILY ON 
Canada.ca/coronavirus.
BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANT TO OFFER 
MY SINCERE CONDOLENCES TO THE 
CANADIAN FORCES SNOWBIRDS TEAM 
WHO TRAGICALLY LOST ONE OF THEIR
MEMBERS WHILE ANOTHER WAS 
SERIOUSLY INJURED IN AN ACCIDENT
THIS WEEKEND, AS PART OF A 
MISSION TO LIFT THE SPIRITS OF 
THE COUNTRY, WE TURN OUR 
THOUGHTS TO THEM IN REFLECTION 
OF SORROW.
MY REFLECTION ON THE WEEKEND WAS
THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN 
THROUGH THIS WINTER.
I'M HEARTENED BY CANADIANS AS A 
COLLECTIVE.
THERE IS STILL A DIFFICULT PATH 
AHEAD, BUT IT WAS CONFIDENCE 
THAT WE HAVE WHAT IT TAKES 
BECAUSE OF THE INGENUITY AND 
CARING I HAVE WITNESSED.
WE'VE ALL GOTTEN OUTDOORS AND 
ARE ENJOYING WARMER WEATHER.
LAST WEEKEND WAS A CHANCE TO DO 
THAT.
I KNOW IT'S A BITTER-SWEET 
OPENING UP OF OUR OUTDOOR 
SPACES.
SOME AREAS WHERE COVID-19 IS 
STILL ACTIVE NEED TO BE EXTRA 
CAUTIOUS, BUT EVERYWHERE WE NEED
TO MAINTAIN THE BASICS OF SOCIAL
DISTANCING AND LIMIT OUR CORE 
BUBBLE.
EVEN WITH THE SLOW GROWTH OF THE
EPIDEMIC, WE ARE NOT OUT OF THE 
WOODS, NO COUNTRY IS.
WE KNOW THERE IS NO CERTAIN PATH
AWAY FROM COVID-19 AND THE ONLY 
SAFE ROUTE IS THE ONE WE TAKE 
TOGETHER, WITH CAUTIOUS AND 
CALCULATED STEPS FORWARD.
THIS WILL BE A SUMMER OF MORE 
RESTRAINED MOVEMENTS AND VIRTUAL
CELEBRATIONS THAN WE ARE USED 
TO, BUT TO KEEP THE CURVE DOWN 
WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR PUBLIC 
HEALTH PRACTICES UP.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO HANG ONTO
THIS SAFETY ROPE AND NOT LET GO.
THROUGHOUT, I HAVE SEEN THE 
SACRIFICES CANADIANS HAVE MADE 
TO PREVENT ANY MORE ILLNESS AND 
TRAGEDY FROM BEFALLING US.
IT IS THE WAY CANADIANS HAVE 
DONE THIS WITH KINDNESS AND 
INGENUITY THAT WE WILL GIVE WHAT
IT TAKES AND GET THROUGH THIS 
TOGETHER.
>> Rosemary: THAT'S DR. THERESA 
TAM WITH HER DAILY UPDATE.
IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO WATCH
THIS BRIEFING, YOU CAN GO TO OUR
WEBSITE, cbcnews.ca.
WE ARE GOING TO THE VIRTUAL 
MEETING OF THE PRIME MINISTER.
>> THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 
THAT CANADIAN HEALTH 
ORGANIZATIONS ARE DEVELOPING 
ASSOCIATED WITH RESEARCHING 
VACCINES AND TREATMENTS AND 
TESTS FOR CORONAVIRUS ARE 
VALUABLE TARGETS FOR THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST PARTY-BACKED HACKING.
HAS THE PRIME MINISTER OR ANY 
MEMBER OF CABINET BEEN MADE 
AWARE OF BREACHES?
>> THE HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: AS A GOVERNMENT, WE 
TAKE EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY THE 
SAFETY AND SECURITY OF CANADIANS
AND OUR DISRULT PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHY THE CANADIAN SECURITY
ESTABLISHMENT IS DOING 
EXTRAORDINARY WORK IN KEEPING 
CANADA AND CANADIANS SAFE.
WE RECEIVE REGULAR UPDATES FROM 
THE CFC AND ALL OUR INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND 
CONTINUE TO DO TO MAKE SURE 
CANADA IS PROTECTED.
>> THE CANADIAN SECURITY 
ESTABLISHMENT HAS INDICATED THAT
THERE IS A HEIGHTENED RISK AND 
INCREASED MEASURES ARE NEEDED TO
PROTECT CANADIAN NATIONAL 
SECURITY INTERESTS AT THIS TIME.
COULD THE PRIME MINISTER LET US 
KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL MEASURES 
THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING TO HEED
THESE INCREASED WARNINGS AND 
PROTECT CANADA.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE HAVE OVER THE PAST 
YEARS INCREASED THE RESOURCES 
AVAILABLE TO THE C.F.C. BECAUSE 
WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO 
BE REMAINING VIGILANT AND 
PROTECTING CANADIAN NETWORKS, 
INSTITUTIONS, AND THE SAFETY AND
SECURITY OF CANADIANS FROM 
CYBERINTRUSION AND CYBERATTACKS.
WE CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT OUR 
NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCIES HAVE 
THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO DO WHAT 
IS NEEDED.
>> CANADA IS A MEMBER OF 
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
THE W.H.O. BECAUSE WE EXPECT TO 
RECEIVE ACCURATE AND TIMELY 
INFORMATION THAT ENABLES US TO 
MAKE TIMELY DECISIONS ON THE 
ACTIONS WE NEED TO MAKE TO KEEP 
CANADIANS SAFE, BUT IF THE 
W.H.O. DOESN'T VALIDATE AND 
VERIFY THAT INFORMATION THEY 
SHARE WITH MEMBER STATES, IT 
PUTS US ALL AT RISK.
OVER THE WEEKEND THE 
INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT 
MINISTER SAID IT'S NOT THE 
W.H.O.'S RESPONSIBILITY TO 
QUESTION THE INFORMATION 
PROVIDED BY CHINA IN THIS 
PANDEMIC.
RIGHT FROM DAY ONE, CANADA HAS 
MADE BAD DECISIONS BASED ON BAD 
INFORMATION FROM THE W.H.O.
THE CRISIS IS NOT OVER.
IS THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUING TO 
TRUST WITHOUT VERIFYING THE 
INFORMATION FROM THE W.H.O.?
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: MR. SPEAKER, CANADIANS 
WELL KNOW THAT THIS IS A GLOBAL 
CRISIS THAT IS HITTING LOCALLY 
IN EVERY COUNTRY AROUND THE 
WORLD AND WE NEED GLOBAL 
INSTITUTIONS TO COUNTER THIS.
THAT IS WHY WE CONTINUE TO 
SUPPORT THE WORK OF THE W.H.O.
HOWEVER, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, 
IT IS CLEAR THERE WILL NEED TO 
BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE W.H.O., 
TO THE INTERNATIONAL 
INSTITUTIONS THAT SERVE US, AND 
CANADA WILL BE THERE AS WE HAVE 
BEEN THERE IN ASKING QUESTIONS 
AND IN DEMANDING ANSWERS.
>> [SPEAKING FRENCH]. 
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: [SPEAKING FRENCH]. 
>> [Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] YES, PAYROLL IS 
IMPORTANT, BUT THAT'S NOT A 
FIXED COST.
SO ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO ASK 
THE PRIME MINISTER, WHAT HAS THE
GOVERNMENT DONE TO HELP 
BUSINESSES WITH FIXED COSTS, 
PURSUANT TO THE MOTION ADOPTED 
BY THE HOUSE?
AND I WOULDN'T REMIND IF YOU 
TOOK LONGER THAN I DID TO ASK MY
QUESTION.
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: THANK YOU, BUT I WILL 
BE BRIEF.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED MEASURES TO 
HELP WITH COMMERCIAL RENT.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AND A 
SIGNIFICANT COST FOR MANY 
BUSINESSES, AND WE'RE WORKING 
CLOSELY WITH PROVINCES TO ENSURE
THAT WE OFFER SUPPORT TO 
BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM WITH 
THESE FIXED COSTS, INCLUDING 
RENT.
>> MR. ST. MARIE.
>> MR. CHAIR, THE RENT 
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS NOT 
WORKING.
THE C.P.F. IS ASKING FOR THIS 
PROGRAM TO BE OVERHAULED 
SIGNIFICANTLY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE REQUIREMENT OF 
HAVING LOST 70% OF REVENUES IS 
EXCESSIVE AND IS GOING TO LEAVE 
MANY S.M.E.s BEHIND AND WHERE 
THE OWNER DOES NOT HAVE A 
MONTREALING AS WELL AS CHANGE.
WHEN THEY TRY TO QUALIFY FOR THE
PROGRAM, THEY NEED THE OWNER OF 
THE PROGRAM TO COLLABORATE AND 
THAT'S NOT ALWAYS IS THE CASE.
ACCORDING TO THE QUEBEC RETAIL 
COUNCIL, 40% OF BUSINESSES THAT 
WOULD BE ALLOWED TO APPLY TO 
THIS PROGRAM SAYS THAT THE OWNER
DOES NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
HAS THE GOVERNMENT EVALUATED THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS PROGRAM?
WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO 
DO TO MAKE THIS VIABLE?
>> IS THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME
MINISTER. 
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD PROGRAMS
TO HELP.
AS WE'RE WATCHING THE IMPACT OF 
THESE VARIOUS SITUATIONS, WE ARE
TRYING TO CLOSE ANY GAPS IN THE 
PROGRAM AND IMPROVE THE 
PROGRAMS.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW THE 
PROGRAM TO SEE HOW WE CAN 
STRENGTHEN AND IMPROVE IT.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE IN THE 
LIBERAL PARTY, WE RECOGNIZE 
AREAS OF PROVINCIAL JURISDICTION
AND WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH 
PROVINCES OR THE RELEVANT 
JURISDICTION IN AREAS SUCH AS 
RENT.
SO WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH 
QUEBEC AND THE OTHER PROVINCES.
>> MR. STE-MARIE.
>> IN TERMS OF PROVINCIAL 
JURISDICTION, THE QUEBEC 
MINISTER OF FINANCE DOES NOT 
AGREE WITH THE PRIME MINISTER 
AND HE SAID THE PROGRAM WAS 
ANNOUNCED BY THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT AND ITS 
ADMINISTRATION IS COMPLETELY 
UNDER THE CMHC.
THIS IS NOT AT ALL PROVINCIAL.
CHAIR, THE QUEBEC RESTAURANT 
ORGANIZATION SURVEYED ITS 
MEMBERS, AND TWO-THIRDS SAID 
THEY ARE VERY OR EXTREMELY 
CONCERNED ABOUT PAYING THEIR 
RENT IN COMING WEEKS.
IN TERMS OF RENT SUPPORT, 
ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, AT 
LEAST ONE OUT OF FOUR RESTAURANT
OWNERS WILL HAVE A HARD TIME 
SIGNING UP FOR THIS PROGRAM.
WHAT IS THE PRIME MINISTER GOING
TO DO?
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS
TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS WORKERS, 
CANADIANS, FAMILIES, THAT ARE 
FACING GREAT CHALLENGES DURING 
THIS CRISIS.
AND THIS IS WHY AS THE SITUATION
EVOLVES AND AS WE UNDERSTAND 
WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE 
IMPROVEMENTS, WE ARE TWEAKING 
PROGRAMS.
WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE 
MECHANISMS AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH 
LANDLORDS AS WELL.
WE KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS MORE TO 
DO AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE 
FOR ENTREPRENEURS AND SMALL 
BUSINESSES.
>> MR. STE-MARIE, A 30-SECOND 
QUESTION OR LESS, PLEASE.
>> WELL, S.M.E. FIXED COSTS GO 
BEYOND RENTS FOR MANY SECTORS, 
SUCH AS HOTELS, HAIR SALONS, AND
EVEN ZOOS.
WHAT IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO 
DO FOR FIXED COSTS FOR S.M.E.s 
BESIDES RENT SUPPORT?
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER IN 30 SECONDS OR LESS. 
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE EARLIER ANNOUNCED AN
EXPANSION OF THE $40,000 LOAN 
PROGRAM FOR SMALL BUSINESSES WHO
WERE NOT ELIGIBLE.
NOW SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE 
EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CONTRACTORS 
OR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE SOLE
PROPRIETORS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE
ACCESS TO THIS $40,000 LOAN AND 
THIS WILL HELP THEM WITH FIXED 
COSTS.
[end of translation]. 
>> THE NEXT QUESTION GOES TO 
MR. JULIAN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
CANADIANS ARE SUFFERING DURING 
THIS PANDEMIC, BUT SOME VERY 
WEALTHY ARE PROFITING.
DURING WORLD WAR II THERE WERE 
LAWS AGAINST PROFITEERING, BUT 
THIS GOVERNMENT SEEMS TO BE 
PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR 
PROFITING.
THE CORPORATE BAILOUT IS OPEN TO
COMPANIES THAT USE TAX HAVENS, 
WHICH IS 90% OF CANADA'S LARGEST
PRIVATELY TRADED COUNTRIES.
WHY DID THE GOVERNMENT NOT SHUT 
THE DOWN TO LEEFF TO THOSE USING
TAX HAVENS.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: MR. SPEAKER, AS A 
GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE INCREASED 
SUBSTANTIALLY THE RESOURCES 
AVAILABLE TO REVENUE CANADA TO 
GO AFTER TAX AVOIDANCE AND 
EVASION AND THE BILLIONS OF 
DOLLARS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO 
DO EXACTLY THAT.
WE HAVE NO PATIENCE FOR THOSE 
WHO DON'T PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE 
OF TAXES FOR THE GOVERNMENT OR 
THE COUNTRY.
AT THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE WE ARE SUPPORTING WORKERS 
RIGHT ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHETHER
THEY WORK FOR LARGE COMPANIES OR
NOT.
PERHAPS THE N.D.P. IS WILLING TO
PUT ASIDE THE TENS OF THOUSANDS 
OF WORKERS IN CANADA'S 90% OF 
COMPANY.
WE WILL NOT.
>> MR. SPEAKER, NOT A SINGLE 
COMPANY LISTED IN THE PANAMA 
PAPERS, NO COMPANY LISTED IN THE
PARADISE PAPERS OR IN THE AISLE 
OF MAN SCAM HAVE BEEN CONVICTED 
OR CHARGED WITH TAX EVASION, 
THEY CAN ALL GET THE CORPORATE 
BAILOUT.
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE BANNED 
COMPANIES FROM GETTING BAILOUTS.
WHY HAS THIS GOVERNMENT NOT DONE
THE SAME?
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER. 
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: MR. SPEAKER, AS A 
GOVERNMENT WE HAVE TAKEN 
SERIOUSLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF 
CRACKING DOWN ON TAX AVOIDANCE 
AND EVASION AND MAKING SURE 
EVERYONE PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE.
IF THE N.D.P. REALLY WANTS TO 
CONTINUE ON THIS APPROACH, THEY 
SHOULD START NAMING COUNTRIES 
THEY FEEL WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE 
AND EXPLAIN TO THEIR WORKERS WHY
THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE HELP 
OTHER CANADIANS GET.
WE NEED TO WORK FIRST AND 
FOREMOST ON SUPPORTING WORKERS, 
BUT IF THE N.D.P. WANTS TO START
LISTING COMPANIES WHERE THEIR 
WORKERS SHOULDN'T BE HELPED, 
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
>> OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE DONE IT 
AND THE PRIME MINISTER, WITH 
RESPECT, SHOULD BE DOING THE 
SAME THING.
THERE'S THE BIG BANKS AS WELL.
IN THE LAST ECONOMIC CRISIS WITH
THE HARPER GOVERNMENT GAVE $60 
BILLION IN HELP AS THE BANKS 
RAKED UP PROFIT DURING THIS 
PERIOD.
THIS IS GOING EVEN FURTHER.
THE BANKS CAN AND DO IMPOSE 
PENALTIES, FEES, AND INTEREST ON
ANY DEFERRALS THEY APPROVE AND 
THEY'RE BENEFITTING FROM 
NEAR-ZERO BANK OF CANADA RATES.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS TOOLS TO CUT 
THE BANKS' PROFITEERING, WHY 
DON'T THEY USING THEM?
>> THE RIGHT HONOURABLE PRIME 
MINISTER.
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, WE 
SEE THE N.D.P. LONG ON RHETORIC 
AND ATTACKS, BUT SHORT ON 
SPECIFICS.
THEY WILL NOT NAME THE COMPANIES
THEY THINK EMPLOYEES SHOULD NOT 
BE GETTING BENEFITS LIKE OTHER 
CANADIANS BECAUSE OF THE 
COMPANIES THEY WORK FOR.
I'M WAITING FOR THE N.D.P. TO 
START NAMING COMPANIES THAT 
SHOULDN'T RECEIVE THE LEEFF.
ON THE OTHER SIDE WE WILL 
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE 
COMPANIES THAT HAVE MADE STRONG 
MEASURES TO SUPPORT CANADIANS 
AND WILL BE DOING SO IN THE 
COMING MONTHS.
WE KNOW WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER
TO GET THROUGH THIS AND 
BUSINESSES LARGE AND SMALL ARE 
PART OF THE SOLUTION IN THIS 
COUNTRY.
WE WILL KEEP WORKING WITH THEM 
FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL 
CANADIANS.
>> MR. JULIAN.
>> MR. SPEAKER, THEY HAVEN'T 
USED A SINGLE TOOL AND PEOPLE 
SHOULD COME BEFORE PROFITEERING.
IT'S TIME THEY UNDERSTOOD THIS.
AMAZON IS OWNED BY THE WORLD'S 
RICHEST MAN WHO HAS MADE MONEY 
OFF THE BACKS OF WORKERS DURING 
THIS PANDEMIC.
AMAZON IS ON THE DIRTY DOZEN 
LIST OF MOST DANGEROUS 
EMPLOYERS.
INSTEAD OF DEFENDING WORKERS, 
THIS GOVERNMENT IS HELPING 
AMAZON WITH GOVERNMENT MONEY.
THEY HAVE GIVEN THEM A 
SWEETHEART CONTRACT TO TAKE OVER
FROM THE POST OFFICE.
WHY SUPPORT AMAZON'S 
PROFITEERING WITH FEDERAL FUNDS?
>> Prime Minister Justin 
Trudeau: WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT 
IT IS TO GET PERSONAL PROTECTIVE
EQUIPMENT OUT TO PLACES ACROSS 
THE COUNTRY THAT NEED IT QUICKLY
AND URGENTLY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH 
AMAZON CANADA AS A DISTRIBUTION 
SPACE, BUT THERE IS A COMPANY 
PERHAPS THE N.D.P. IS SUGGESTING
THAT AMAZON CANADA EMPLOYEES 
SHOULDN'T BE RECEIVING BENEFITS 
FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
WE THINK THAT EMPLOYEES 
REGARDLESS OF THE COMPANIES THEY
WORK FOR, LARGE OR SMALL, SHOULD
BE GETTING THE HELP THAT THEY 
NEED AND WE'RE ENSURING THAT THE
HELP GOES DIRECTLY TO EMPLOYEES.
THOSE ARE THINGS WITH THE WAGE 
SUBSIDY AND OTHERS THAT WE ARE 
FOCUSED ON TO MAKE SURE THAT 
CANADA CAN COME BACK STRONG, 
BOTH HEALTH-WISE AND 
ECONOMY-WISE ONCE THIS IS 
THROUGH.
>> Rosemary: WE'RE GOING TO PULL
AWAY NOW FROM THE COVID 
COMMITTEE.
WE USUALLY JUST TAKE THE 
LEADERS' ROUND THERE, THE 
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO THE 
PRIME MINISTER.
WE WILL GO BACK IF THERE ARE 
MORE, BUT WE'LL TAKE YOU TO THE 
FEDERAL BRIEFING WITH THE 
MINISTERS AND PUBLIC HEALTH 
OFFICIALS BACK TO THAT.
THAT WAS THE MINISTER OF 
PROCUREMENT, AND WE ARE GOING TO
GO BACK TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE 
TREASURY BOARD.
>> [Speaking French] [Voice of 
Interpreter] 6,000 COMPANIES ARE
ALREADY BENEFITTING FROM THE 
CANADA EMERGENCY BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT.
WE HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING
THE 30-DAY EXTENSION REGARDING 
THE BORDER MEASURES WITH THE 
CANADIANS.
WE WILL NOW BE PLEASED TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTIONS.
[end of translation]. 
>> THANK YOU, MINISTER.
THREE QUESTIONS ON THE PHONE AND
TURN TO THE ROOM, ONE QUESTION 
AND ONE FOLLOW UP.
OPERATOR, OVER TO YOU.
>> Operator: THANK YOU.
"LE DEVOIR."
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] I DON'T 
KNOW IF ONE OF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE
TO ANSWER ME, BUT IT REGARDS THE
OPERATIONS OF PARLIAMENT.
WILL IT CONTINUE TO SIT?
BECAUSE MANY SITTING WEEKS WERE 
MISSED, I WAS WONDERING IF IT 
MIGHT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SIT
DURING THE SUMMER?
>> Answer: AS YOU STATED, WE ARE
GOING THROUGH AN UNPRECEDENTED 
SITUATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE FOCUSED OUR 
ATTENTION ON MANAGING THIS 
CORONAVIRUS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO
WORK WITH OPPOSITION PARTIES IN 
ORDER TO FOCUS ON OTHER ISSUES 
AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE 
CONTINUING TO DISCUSS WITH THE 
DIFFERENT PARTY LEADERS.
>> Question: FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT 
WE'VE THOUGHT OF.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MINISTER 
ANAND REGARDING VENTILATORS.
WE SEEM TO WANT TO PURCHASE MORE
OF THEM, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW 
THERE AREN'T ANY PROVINCES THAT 
HAVE STATED THEY HAVE A LACK OF 
VENTILATORS.
IS THERE TRULY A DEMAND FOR 
THAT?
>> Answer: THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
QUESTION.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A 
SHORT-TERM AND A LONG-TERM PLAN.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO 
HAPPEN WITH THIS COVID-19 
PANDEMIC.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO 
PUT IN PLACE PLANS FOR THE WEEKS
AND MONTHS TO COME AS WELL AS 
FOR THE YEAR.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE 
EQUIPMENT THAT CANADIANS HAVE 
NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
[end of translation]. 
>> THANK YOU.
OPERATOR, NEXT QUESTION.
>> Operator: THE NEXT QUESTION 
IS FROM LAURA OSMOND FROM "THE 
CANADIAN PRESS."
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
>> Question: GOOD MORNING.
FOR MINISTER ANAND, I WANTED TO 
ASK YOU ABOUT DOMESTIC COMPANIES
RETOOLING FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES.
AS THE ECONOMIES ARE REOPENING 
AND THEY WANTED TO BE GETTING 
BACK TO THEIR USUAL BUSINESS, 
HOW LONG DO YOU FORESEE THEM 
MAKING THESE SUPPLIES AND SHOULD
IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER
IN THE VERY LONG TERM HAVING 
MORE DOMESTIC PRODUCTION OF 
THESE KINDS OF THINGS?
>> Answer: IT'S A VERY GOOD 
QUESTION AND AS I JUST RESPONDED
IN FRENCH, I'LL SAY THE SIMILAR 
THING IN ENGLISH, THAT WE DON'T 
KNOW HOW THE PANDEMIC IS GOING 
TO AFFECT REGIONS THROUGHOUT 
THIS COUNTRY IN THE SHORT AND 
THE LONG TERM.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT IS 
IMPORTANT THAT HEALTHCARE 
FRONTLINE PROFESSIONALS HAVE THE
EQUIPMENT THEY NEED NOW AND IN 
THE MONTHS AND YEARS TO COME.
SO OUR APPROACH IN TERMS OF 
CONTRACTING, BOTH DOMESTICALLY 
AND INTERNATIONALLY, IS TO 
ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A STEADY 
SUPPLY OF GOODS COMING INTO 
CANADA.
WE'VE HAD 34 FLIGHTS COMING IN 
FROM CHINA RECENTLY.
BUT YOU ASK ABOUT DOMESTIC 
PRODUCTION, AND IT IS THERE THAT
IT IS SO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO
FOCUS ON BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT CANADIANS STORES OF 
PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT 
AND OTHER SUPPLIES WILL BE 
AVAILABLE AND THE SHORT AND THE 
LONG TERM.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CONTRACTS IN 
PLACE, TO ENSURE A STEADY STREAM
OF THESE SUPPLIES OVER THE SHORT
AND THE LONG TERM.
THIS APPLIES NOT ONLY TO 
SURGICAL MASKS, BUT ALSO N95 
MASKS.
WE HAVE A COMPANY IN MONTREAL, 
MEDICOM THAT WILL BE PRODUCING 
MASKS IN THE COMING WEEKS AND 
MONTHS.
AND ALSO GOWNS AND HAND 
SANITIZER ARE IMPORTANT FOR US 
TO HAVE THESE SUPPLIES ON HAND 
READY TO SERVE CANADIANS AS WE 
MOVE THROUGH THE NEXT PHASES OF 
THIS PANDEMIC.
>> FOLLOW UP, LAURA.
>> Question: THANK YOU.
FOR DR. TAM, I WANTED TO ASK 
YOU.
WHAT DOES IT TELL US, IF 
ANYTHING, THAT 50% OF CONFIRMED 
CASES HAVE NOW RECOVERED?
>> Answer: YES.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO SEE THE 
NUMBER OF ACTIVE CASES, WHAT WE 
CALL ACTIVE CASES, THOSE WHO 
HAVE NOT RECOVERED TO GO DOWN.
AND IT TAKES A BIT OF TIME FOR 
PEOPLE TO RECOVER AS WELL.
SO THAT'S TRACKED FOR THAT 
PURPOSE.
OF COURSE IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT 
FOR PLANNING PURPOSES AND 
INDICATES WHETHER THE HEALTH 
SYSTEM IS STILL ABLE TO COPE.
SO THE NUMBER OF RECOVERED AND, 
THEREFORE, THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE 
CASES ARE IMPORTANT FROM THAT 
ASPECT.
BASICALLY ALL OF THE INDICATORS 
THAT WE ARE TRACKING ALL 
CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT THE 
EPIDEMIC -- THE FIRST WAVE IS 
SLOWING DOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY 
BUT AT A DIFFERENT PACE OF 
COURSE, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU 
ARE.
>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
>> Operator: LINA DIBB, "THE 
CANADIAN PRESS."
>> Question: YOU SAID YOU SEE 
THAT THE EPIDEMIC IS GOING DOWN 
BUT NOT AT THE SAME PACE 
EVERYWHERE.
NOW THAT ALMOST EVERYWHERE IS 
REOPENING OR PLANNING ON 
REOPENING IN A FEW DAYS, WHAT 
DATA ARE YOU GOING TO BE LOOKING
AT SPECIFICALLY?
WHAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT MAYBE
THIS IS NOT GOING WELL AND WE 
SHOULD BE SHUTTING DOWN AGAIN?
>> Answer: SO AT THE SPECIAL 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH 
CONSISTS OF ALL THE CHIEF 
MEDICAL OFFICERS OF HEALTH, WE 
ACTUALLY PUT OUT THE CRITERIA 
FOR REOPENING, TOGETHER WITH 
SOME INDICATORS.
SO ONE OF THE FIRST CRITERIA IS,
OF COURSE, THAT YOU HAVE CONTROL
OF THE ACTUAL EPIDEMIC 
TRANSMISSION.
WITH THAT YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER
OF CASES, BOTH LINKED AND 
UNLINKED TO OUTBREAKS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU 
WANT TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY 
CASES THAT SUGGEST THAT THERE'S 
COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION FOR WHICH
FURTHER INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO 
BE DONE.
OBVIOUSLY TESTING AND CONTACT 
TRACING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO 
SUPPORT THE TRACKING OF THESE 
INDICATORS.
AND YOU WANT TO SEE OF COURSE 
CASE COUNTS, BUT ALSO 
HOSPITALIZATIONS, I.C.U. RATES, 
AND DEATHS GOING DOWN.
WE HAVE BEEN TRACKING OTHER 
INDICATORS.
SOME OF THEM ARE MORE USEFUL 
THAN OTHERS AS THE EPIDEMIC WAVE
PROGRESSES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EFFECTIVELY
REPRODUCTION NUMBER, AND THAT IS
HOW MANY PEOPLE A SPECIFIC CASE 
WOULD TRANSMIT TO.
FOR SOME JURISDICTIONS, THIS IS 
NO LONGER A VERY GOOD INDICATOR 
BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH LOWER 
NUMBERS OF CASES, BUT FOR OTHERS
WE KNOW OVERALL IN CANADA THAT 
IS TRACKING JUST BELOW ONE, THAT
IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE 
ALSO TRACKING THIS, BUT 
DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT 
THAT INDICATOR MAY OR MAY NOT BE
USEFUL AS WELL.
SO WE'RE TRACKING THE DISEASE 
INDICATORS IN CONJUNCTION WITH 
OF COURSE INDICATORS SHOWING 
THAT HOSPITALS STILL HAVE 
CAPACITY TO COPE.
WE'RE TRACKING -- WE'RE MAKING 
SURE THAT -- WELL, PROVINCES 
PRIMARILY MAKING SURE THAT 
PEOPLE HAVE PLANS WHEN THEY'RE 
REOPENING AND THAT WORKPLACES 
ARE SUPPORTED TO DO REOPENING 
SAFELY.
AND ALSO THAT WE CONTINUE TO 
KEEP IMPORTATION OF CASES LOW.
SO THESE INDICATORS ARE SORT OF 
ALREADY ESTABLISHED AS PART OF 
THE FOUNDATION FOR A NATIONAL 
APPROACH, RECOGNIZING, THOUGH, 
THEN THERE WOULD BE REGIONAL 
DIFFERENCES IN THE TIMING AND 
HOW THEY IMPLEMENT THIS VERY 
CAUTIOUS REOPENING.
>> Question: [Speaking French] 
[Voice of Interpreter] THANK 
YOU.
QUESTION FOR MR. DUCLOS.
WHY DID YOU INCREASE THE 
ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS $40,000 
LOAN PROGRAM?
IS IT BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE 
HAD ACCESS TO IT?
>> Answer: TWO ANSWERS.
FIRSTLY, AS WITH A LOT OF OTHER 
PROGRAMS, THIS PROGRAM WAS PUT 
IN PLACE VERY QUICKLY.
IT WAS QUITE EFFECTIVE BECAUSE 
OVER 600,000 SMALL BUSINESSES 
WERE ABLE TO HAVE QUICK ACCESS 
TO THIS EMERGENCY LOAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT 
SMALL BUSINESSES IN QUEBEC ARE 
VERY IMPORTANT TO RESTARTING THE
ECONOMY ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO DO 
SO.
SECONDLY, WE NOTED THAT WITH THE
SMALL BUSINESSES THERE WAS A LOT
OF DIVERSITY.
THERE WAS SMALL BUSINESSES THAT 
WERE STILL UNABLE TO HAVE ACCESS
TO THIS $40,000 EMERGENCY LOAN.
THANKS TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE 
GOVERNMENT BUT ALSO THANKS TO 
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY 
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WE WERE 
ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO INCREASE 
ACCESS TO SMALL BUSINESSES TO 
THIS EMERGENCY ACCOUNT.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT 
OUR BUSINESSES THAT WERE 
IMPORTANT BEFORE THE CRISIS BUT 
THAT WILL BE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT
AFTER THE CRISIS, WE WANT THEM 
TO BE ABLE TO HELP US RESTART 
THE ECONOMY.
THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO INCREASE
ACCESSIBILITY TO THIS BUSINESS 
ACCOUNT.
PERHAPS MINISTER NG MIGHT HAVE 
SOMETHING TO ADD TO WHAT I'VE 
ALREADY SAID.
[end of translation]. 
>> I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY 
CORRECT AND I DON'T HAVE A LOT 
MORE TO ADD OTHER THAN WE HAVE 
BEEN LISTENING TO BUSINESSES 
RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING 
AND WE'VE ALWAYS COMMITTED TO 
BUSINESSES THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT
THEM THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT 
TIME.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE 
HELPING OUR BUSINESSES MANAGE 
AND TO HELP THEM WITH THE 
OPERATING COSTS THAT THEY DO 
BEAR, WHETHER IT'S UTILITIES OR 
INSURANCE OR PAYING THAT 
ADDITIONAL 25% TOP-UP WHICH I 
KNOW THAT MANY BUSINESSES DO AND
OVER 600,000 BUSINESSES HAVE 
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE LOAN AND 
IT'S THOSE OPERATING COSTS THEY 
ARE USING THIS FOR.
>> WE'LL GO TO THE ROOM STARTING
WITH KEVIN GALLAGHER FROM 
GOVERNMENT.
>> Question: MY QUESTION IS FOR 
DR. TAM.
CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT THE
PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS ARE FOR 
KEEPING THE CANADIAN-U.S. BORDER
CLOSED TO NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL.
WHAT ARE THE BENCHMARKS THAT 
PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS WILL BE 
LOOKING AT WHEN AND IF THAT SORT
OF REGULAR TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA
AND THE UNITED STATES STARTS TO 
COMMENCE?
>> Answer: YES.
SO AGAIN, THAT IS QUITE A BROAD 
DISCUSSION, BUT AT THE SPECIAL 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS I SAID, 
WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE 
CRITERIA FOR LIFTING SOME OF THE
PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURES.
ONE OF THE CONSENSUS APPROACHES 
AT THE MOMENT IS THAT WE HAVE TO
CAUTIOUSLY LIFT MEASURES WITHIN 
OUR BORDERS FIRST, JUST TO SEE 
SLOWLY WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS, 
BECAUSE WE'LL WANT TO SEE THAT 
THE CASES ARE STILL SUPPRESSED, 
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO MANAGE, 
DETECT, CLAMP DOWN ON ANY NEW 
SPOTS THAT MIGHT COME UP.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THAT DEPENDS ON PUBLIC HEALTH 
CARE CAPACITY, PROTECTING THE 
VULNERABLE, ET CETERA.
PART OF THIS EQUATION IS THE 
INTERNATIONAL BORDER AND THE 
MEASURES WE'VE PUT DOWN AT THE 
MOMENT, PARTICULARLY THE MASSIVE
REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF 
INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLERS HAS 
ALLOWED CANADA TO MANAGE THIS 
FIRST WAVE OF THE PANDEMIC.
IF THERE IS INCREASED VOLUMES, 
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 
HAVE THE SAFETY OF CANADIANS AT 
THE TOP OF MIND.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE NOT 
ONLY KEEP UP BUT ALSO STRENGTHEN
SOME OF THOSE MEASURES.
THE MANDATORY 14-DAY 
QUARANTINING OF PEOPLE WHO COME 
IN REMAINS A CORNERSTONE AS WE 
GO FORWARDS AND THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE TO MANAGE THAT AND MAKE 
SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING 
THAT REQUIREMENT, ESPECIALLY IF 
VOLUMES DO GO UP.
SOME OF THESE ARE THE KEY 
CONSIDERATIONS.
OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER 
CONSIDERATIONS BY OTHER AREAS OF
THE GOVERNMENT THAT WANTS TO 
MAKE SURE WE STILL GET THE 
SUPPLIES AND EVERYTHING WE NEED.
THERE ARE SPECIAL AND ECONOMIC 
IMPACTS THAT CAN IMPACT 
NEGATIVELY THE HEALTH OF 
CANADIANS AS WELL, SO WE NEED TO
ALSO BALANCE THAT.
BUT FUNDAMENTALLY ENSURING THAT 
WHATEVER WE DO THE SYSTEM IS 
STILL ABLE TO DETECT AND COPE 
WITH ANY INTRODUCTION. 
>> Question: AND JUST ON A 
FOLLOW UP, ON THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION, DR. TAM, WE'VE 
HEARD FROM U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP THAT HE IS THREATENING TO 
PULL FUNDING FROM THE U.N. 
AGENCY, MAYBE RESCINDING 
MEMBERSHIP OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT COMES AT A TIME -- WHETHER 
YOU AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT'S 
OPINION OR NOT -- OF INCREASED 
CRITICISM AGAINST THE WORLD 
HEALTH ORGANIZATION'S HANDLING 
OF THE OUTBREAK.
ARE YOU AT ALL CONCERNED OR HAVE
ANY IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THE 
CREDIBILITY OR LONG-TERM 
CREDIBILITY OF THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION COULD LOOK LIKE AS 
THIS PANDEMIC CONTINUES TO 
UNFOLD AND AS WE SEE THAT 
THERE'S PRESSURE FOR AN 
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION TO HOW
THE W.H.O. HANDLED THE BEGINNING
OF THIS CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK?
>> Answer: WELL, I THINK, AS 
EVERYONE CAN FULLY APPRECIATE, 
THIS IS A COMPLETELY 
UNPRECEDENTED PANDEMIC WHICH IN 
THE MODERN ERA PEOPLE HAVE NOT 
SEEN.
EVERY ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE 
LESSONS LEARNED.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT.
FROM A CANADA PERSPECTIVE AND 
WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN MADE 
CLEAR IN MANY WEEKS THAT, ONE, 
NOW IS THE TIME FOR GLOBAL 
COLLABORATION.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT 
INTERNATIONAL BORDERS.
CANADA CANNOT RESUME SOME OF 
THOSE ACTIVITIES WITHOUT OTHER 
COUNTRIES ALSO COLLABORATING 
TOGETHER TO REDUCE THE 
TRANSMISSION OF THE VIRUS THE 
W.H.O. ACTUALLY PLAYS A REALLY 
CRITICAL ROLE IN THAT BECAUSE 
EVERY COUNTRY HAS SOME MEASURE 
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME -- I 
THINK NOW MORE THAN EVER THERE 
NEEDS TO BE INTERNATIONAL 
COLLABORATION AND THE W.H.O. IS 
CRITICAL IN THAT.
I THINK CANADA IS ALSO 
SUPPORTING THE CALL FOR THE 
INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE 
RESPONSE, NOT JUST THE W.H.O. 
WHICH IS THE SECRETARIAT TO THE 
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND 
THE ASSEMBLY, IT'S THE MEMBER 
STATES AS WELL.
YOU CAN'T JUST REVIEW THE W.H.O.
RESPONSE, BUT HOW WE ALL 
INTERSECTED WITH IT AND HOW EACH
MEMBER STATE IS ABLE TO RESPOND 
TO IT.
SO I THINK THAT IS THE PRUDENT 
THING TO DO.
AND I THINK THE RESOLUTION AT 
THE ASSEMBLY NOW THAT IS LOOKING
AT THIS INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT 
AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME.
OF COURSE RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IS
IN THE MIDDLE OF RESPONSE AND 
THIS PERIOD WHERE COUNTRIES, NOT
JUST CANADA, ARE BEGINNING TO 
LIFT THOSE MEASURES IS A REALLY 
DELICATE TIME WHERE I THINK THAT
MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL 
COLLABORATION HAS TO OCCUR.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, CANADA 
SUPPORTED THAT RESOLUTION AND WE
WILL MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT 
I THINK THE W.H.O. IS WHAT WE 
MEMBER STATES MAKE IT.
WE CAN MAKE IT STRONGER AND 
BETTER AS PART OF OUR 
INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE TO FUTURE
PANDEMICS.
BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT ALL 
OF US HAVE SOMETHING TO LEARN.
>> JULIE, OVER TO YOU.
>> Question: JULIE VAN DUSEN, 
CBC NEWS.
IN LIGHT OF A VACCINE, IS THERE 
ANYTHING YOU ARE DOING TO GET 
READY TO MAKE SURE THAT SUCH A 
VACCINE CAN BE MANUFACTURED 
HERE?
ARE YOU PURCHASING SUPPLIES 
RELATED TO VACCINES IN ADVANCE, 
SYRINGES AND OTHER THINGS?
>> Answer: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD 
QUESTION.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE PREPARING FOR 
THE SHORT AND THE LONG TERM, AND
THE KEY POINT IN THE LONG-TERM 
PREPARATION IS TO MAKE SURE 
CANADA IS POSITIONED WELL IN 
TERMS OF PROCURING AND 
MANUFACTURING VACCINES.
BY ALL MEANS, WE ARE PLANNING 
FOR THAT.
WE ARE ENSURING THAT CANADA 
WOULD HAVE THE ADDITIONAL 
SUPPLIES THAT YOU MENTIONED TO 
ENSURE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD 
WITH VACCINATIONS WHEN THE TIME 
IS RIGHT, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
>> Question: PERHAPS A LITTLE 
MORE DETAIL FROM DR. TAM ABOUT 
THE BORDER.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S HEALTH 
CONCERNS.
ARE THEY WORRIED ABOUT OUR 
INFECTION RATE OR ARE WE WORRIED
ABOUT THEIR INFECTION RATE AND 
WHAT HAS TO CHANGE FOR THE 
BORDER TO OPEN?
>> Answer: SO, AS I JUST SAID 
EVERY COUNTRY IS DEPENDANT ON 
ALL OTHER COUNTRIES.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, EVERY 
COUNTRY HAS A ROLE IN REDUCING 
VIRAL TRANSMISSION WITHIN ITS 
OWN BORDERS.
OF COURSE WE WILL BE WATCHING 
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE 
UNITED STATES IN TERMS OF THEIR 
EPIDEMIC AND THEIR TRAJECTORY.
I AM CERTAIN THAT THEY WILL BE 
LOOKING AT THE CANADIAN 
EPIDEMIOLOGY AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT DOES FORM PART 
OF THE CONSIDERATION IN 
PROTECTING EACH OF THOSE 
CITIZENS AND SORT OF 
COLLABORATING ON THAT, BUT THEN 
LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE SAFELY 
RESUME SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES.
AS I'VE SAID, ONE OF THE KEY 
ASPECTS OF THAT IS ANYONE WHO IS
ENTERING, IF THEY UNDERGO THAT 
QUARANTINE PERIOD, YOU CAN 
REDUCE THE POTENTIAL RISK OF 
IMPORTATION.
SO ALL OF THAT I THINK COMES 
INTO PLAY, BUT THE 
CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT 
INTERNATIONAL BORDER IS MUCH 
MORE COMPLEX I THINK THAN JUST 
THE TECHNICAL HEALTH INPUT.
SO I'M SURE THAT LEADERS WILL BE
DISCUSSING ALL THOSE OTHER 
COMPLEX ASPECTS TO THIS.
>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
MIKE.
>> Question: HELLO, DR. TAM.
MIKE, I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT -- 
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID ON THE 
WEEKEND THAT HE'S TAKING 
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON 
THAT?
>> Answer: WELL, I THINK MY 
MESSAGE IS STILL MUCH THE SAME 
AS WHAT I'VE SAID BEFORE, WHICH 
IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL WANTING 
TO LOOK AT VIABLE TREATMENTS.
EVERYONE WANTS AN ANSWER AND A 
SOLUTION.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW A LOT OF 
THE STUDIES ARE VERY PRELIMINARY
ON DIFFERENT TREATMENTS AND THE 
RESULTS HAVE BEEN MIXED.
HOWEVER, SOME PRELIMINARY 
STUDIES FROM OUTSIDE OF CANADA 
SUGGEST THAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE 
MIGHT HAVE SOME ROLE OR BEING 
EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING THE VIRAL 
LOAD.
IF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IS BEING 
USED, IT SHOULD BE PART OF A 
CLINICAL TRIAL, FOR WHICH THEY 
ARE ALREADY CLINICAL TRIALS IN 
PROGRESS WITH HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE
AS ARMS OF THOSE TREATMENT 
TRIALS.
SOME OF THEM ARE BEING FUNDED BY
THE CIJA AND THE CANADIAN 
TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS, 
THAT'S A NETWORK THAT'S BEING 
SUPPORTED FEEDS INTO THE 
SOLIDARITY TRIAL OF THE W.H.O., 
AND ONE OF THEM IS ON 
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE.
I THINK -- IT WAS JUST VERY 
RECENTLY, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH
DATE, ALSO HEALTH CANADA 
APPROVED THE TRIAL FOR THE USE 
OF HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE IN 
HOSPITALIZED CHILDREN.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL 
BECAUSE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS CAN
HAVE DIFFERENT RESPONSES TO 
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE.
SO REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE IS 
THAT THE MEDICATION MUST, FIRST 
OF ALL, BE PRESERVED FOR ITS 
CURRENT INDICATED MEDICAL 
TREATMENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PEOPLE WITH 
LUPUS, MALARIA, PROPHYLAXIS 
TREATMENT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO 
HAVE HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE GO INTO 
CLINICAL TRIALS. 
>> Question: OKAY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AS
OF YET THAT IT'S HAVING AN 
EFFECT.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT ARE THE 
DANGERS OF TAKING A DRUG THAT 
HAS NOT BEEN FULLY TESTED?
>> Answer: WELL, I THINK ANY 
DRUG HAS SIDE EFFECTS OF COURSE.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE STUDY IN 
THESE CLINICAL TRIALS.
SOME OF IT MIGHT OCCUR -- THE 
TRIALS MIGHT START WITH HEALTHY 
PEOPLE FIRST, BUT YOU WANT TO 
SEE HOW THESE DRUGS ALSO PERFORM
IN PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT AGE 
GROUPS AND UNDERLYING MEDICAL 
CONDITIONS AND THERE ARE DRUG 
UNDERLYING IMPACTS AS WELL.
EVERY DRUG HAS ITS RISKS AND 
THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THOSE 
TRIALS.
>> Rosemary: WE ARE GOING TO 
PULL AWAY FROM THE FEDERAL 
BRIEFING.
THAT IS DR. THERESA TAM BEING 
ASKED AN INTERESTING QUESTION ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REVELATION 
THAT HE'S BEEN TAKING 
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE FOR A COUPLE 
OF WEEKS NOW BECAUSE OF SOME 
INFORMATION THAT IT COULD 
PERHAPS HELP WITH THE 
CORONAVIRUS.
DR. TAM MAKING IT CLEAR THAT 
THIS MEDICATION HAS TO BE PART 
OF A CLINICAL TRIAL TO TEST IT 
ON HOW IT MIGHT REDUCE VIRAL 
LOAD WHEN IT COMES TO 
CORONAVIRUS.
IT HAS NOT YET BEEN APPROVED FOR
USE IN THIS CAPACITY.
IT IS USED FOR LUPUS AND MALARIA
AND OTHER THINGS, BUT NOT 
APPROVED FOR TREATMENT OF 
CORONAVIRUS, EVEN THOUGH THE 
PRESIDENT SAID HE IS USING IT.
I'LL BRING IN MY COLLEAGUES, THE
HOST OF "POWER & POLITICS," AND 
DAVID COCHRANE.
IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR 
DR. TAM'S POINT OF VIEW ON THAT.
VASSY, WHAT STOOD OUT FOR YOU 
THERE IN ALL WE HEARD OVER THE 
PAST HOUR?
>> Vassy: YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT.
HE'S TAKING IT AS A PREVENTIVE 
MEASURE. 
>> Rosemary: YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> Vassy: DR. TAM HIGHLIGHTED 
THAT THE TESTS AND THE TRIALS 
THAT ARE BEING DONE, THIS IS 
WHAT OTHER DOCTORS ARE SAYING AS
WELL, ARE FOCUSED ON WHETHER OR 
NOT IT CAN TREAT IT AND THERE'S 
ONLY ONE SUBSET USING IT AS A 
PREVENTIVE MEASURE.
IT'S TINY, TINY, NO WAY CAN YOU 
TREAT THAT AS EVIDENCE.
AND ALSO THE SIDE EFFECTS OF 
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR ARE 
PRONOUNCED, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE
HEART IS CONCERNED.
THAT'S WHY CONSIDERS ARE SAYING 
IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS IF YOU 
FOLLOW THIS.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO 
TOUCH ON WAS THE WORLD HEALTH 
ORGANIZATION AND DR. TAM GOT A 
BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 
POSSIBILITY OF A REVIEW.
OVER THE PAST 48 HOURS, THE 
W.H.O. HAS CONFIRMED THERE WILL 
BE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW INTO 
ITS ACTIONS IN ALL OF THIS AND 
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS WERE 
THEY TOO RELIANT ON INFORMATION 
AND DATA THAT CAME OUT OF CHINA 
ON THIS.
THE FACT THAT CHINA WAS SAYING 
EARLY ON THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE 
OF HUMAN-TO-HUMAN TRANSMISSION.
DR. TAM SAYING CANADA IS 
SUPPORTIVE OF THAT REVIEW BEING 
CONDUCTED.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM 
THE PRIME MINISTER.
I INTERVIEWED THE MINISTER FOR 
INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, 
KARINA GOLD, LAST NIGHT AND SHE 
ALSO SAID THIS IS SOMETHING WE 
WILL SUPPORT.
I ASKED ABOUT A TIMELINE.
EVERYONE IS SAYING THIS WILL 
HAPPEN ONCE WE'RE OVER THE 
PANDEMIC.
WILL THAT REVIEW HAPPEN ONCE 
THERE IS A VACCINE OR DOES THE 
CANADIAN GOVERNMENT SUPPORT IT 
SOONER?
SHE SAID SOONER.
SHE SEEMED TO THINK A REVIEW 
RIGHT HAPPEN BEFORE A VACCINE.
SHE ALSO SEEMED TO THINK, AND 
THIS FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE 
ACTIONS OF THE W.H.O. IN SARS, 
THAT ISN'T THE W.H.O.'S ROLE TO 
BE SKEPTICAL OF CHINA.
THEY HAVE YET TO ANSWER SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE W.H.O.'S 
CONDUCT OR THE QUESTIONS THAT 
THE GOVERNMENT HAS RIGHT NOW.
SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN SO RELIANT 
ON CHINA?
DOES THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF DOUBT
THE INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF
CHINA.
THOSE ANSWERS AREN'T ANSWERED 
RIGHT NOW, THOUGH THEY HAVE SAID
PRETTY CLEARLY THAT THEY WILL 
SUPPORT THAT INDEPENDENT REVIEW 
THAT THE W.H.O. HAS NOW 
CONFIRMED, AND CHINA, BY THE 
WAY, WHICH INITIALLY RESISTED IT
SAID THEY WILL SUPPORT THAT 
REVIEW WILL HAPPEN SOMETIME IN 
THE FUTURE. 
>> Rosemary: DAVID, MAYBE ON 
THAT SAME TOPIC BECAUSE I 
THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING -- 
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HEARING 
FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND DR. TAM,
THAT THE W.H.O. IS ONLY AS 
STRONG AS THE MEMBER STATES WANT
IT TO BE AND ONLY AS STRONG AS 
THE INFORMATION THEY CONTRIBUTE 
TO THE W.H.O.
I GUESS AT SOME POINT IT'S ABOUT
HOW MUCH SKEPTICISM THE W.H.O. 
NEEDS TO APPLY TO THE 
INFORMATION THEY'RE GETTING FROM
CERTAIN MEMBER STATES. 
>> David: AS DR. TAM SAID, WE'RE
STILL IN THE RESPONSE PHASE IN A
LOT OF WAYS AND A DELICATE PART 
OF THE RESPONSE PHASE AS 
ECONOMIES START TO REOPEN AND 
GRADUALLY LOOSEN THE HEALTH 
RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE.
THERE WILL NEED TO BE AN 
ACCOUNTABILITY SESSION OF SOME 
KIND ON THE GLOBAL RESPONSE, 
NATIONAL RESPONSE, PROVINCIAL 
RESPONSE, AND LOCAL RESPONSE.
WAS THE W.H.O. QUICK ENOUGH TO 
SOUND THE ALARM, WAS CANADA 
QUICK ENOUGH ON DEALING WITH 
TRAVEL AND BORDER, WERE 
PROVINCES QUICK ENOUGH ON TRAVEL
AND WERE CITIES QUICK ENOUGH.
ALL OF THIS IS WILL BE ASSESSED 
IN SOME CAPACITY.
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHEN.
WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH AND 
LIVING THROUGH THIS, AND THE 
ABILITY EVEN TO FLY AND GET 
TOGETHER AND DO AN INVESTIGATION
DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY MEANINGFUL 
CAPACITY RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE 
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RAMP
UP TESTING AND TRACING.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE 
PRIME MINISTER SAID LAST WEEK 
WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT THE FIRST 
MINISTERS' MEETING, IT WAS AN 
OFFER TO PROVIDE PERSONNEL AND 
SUPPLIES TO HELP PROVINCES SCALE
UP TESTING AND TRACING.
IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM 
OFFERING LAB CAPACITY, PROVIDING
THEM WITH MONEY, OR FUNCTIONING 
AS AN H.R. DEPARTMENT TO CONNECT
PROVINCIAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES 
WITH, LET'S SAY, THOUSANDS OF 
VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO
HELP WITH THE CONTACT TRACING 
THROUGH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WEB 
PAGES.
THIS IS AN IDEA RIGHT NOW, AN 
OFFER FROM THE FEDERAL 
GOVERNMENT, NOT FLESHED OUT MORE
THAN THAT.
IT'S A NO-STRINGS OFFER OF 
SUPPORT, I GUESS THE ONLY STRING
THAT IT HAS TO BE USED FOR 
CONTACT TRACING OR RAMPING UP 
TESTING.
THAT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE 
DISCUSSED WHEN THE FIRST 
MINISTERS HAVE THEIR PHONE CALL 
TOWARDS THE END OF THIS WEEK.
>> Rosemary: THANK YOU BOTH VERY
MUCH.
VASSY KAPELOS AND DAVID 
COCHRANE.
YOU CAN CHECK VASSY OUT ON HER 
PROGRAM, "POWER & POLITICS," 
LATER TODAY.
WE WILL LEAVE YOU WITH WHAT WE 
HEARD FROM THE GOVERNMENT TODAY,
FIRST, THAT THE CANADA-U.S. 
BORDER WILL REMAIN CLOSED FOR 
ANOTHER 30 DAYS FOR 
NON-ESSENTIAL TRAVEL.
THAT IS SAID TO BE MUCH NEEDED.
DR. THERESA TAM SAID IN HER 
BRIEFING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO 
COME AROUND TO THE NOTION THAT 
THIS WILL BE A SUMMER OF MORE 
RESTRAINED MOVEMENTS.
AND ALSO THE CANADA EMERGENCY 
BUSINESS LOAN WILL BE EXPANDED.
ANDREW NICHOLS WILL PICK UP 
COVERAGE AFTER THE BREAK.
I'M ROSEMARY BARTON.
THIS IS CBC NEWS NETWORK.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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