
English: 
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Maori: 
Whakawhiti Huarere Ora a Bee

English: 
Welcome to Red Bee Media's
Live Remote Broadcasting
Service.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Good

Maori: 
Media. HE KORITI
KORERO: Kia pai te ahiahi, e te
katoa. I tenei ra, ka tukuna
atu e ahau etahi atu korero mo
nga tikanga he mema mo te roopu
tohutoro ka tu whakarato i te
tirotiro i te mahere
whakamatautau hou a te
kawanatanga. Ka whai whakaaro
ano ahau mo te whakamahi i nga
waehere QR mo runga i nga waka
a-iwi A, ko taatau, he korero
taapiri mo etahi atu korero mo
te ahunga whakamua ki runga i
 Tuatahi, ka
tiimata au me te whakahoutanga
o te Tumuaki mo nga keehi.
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Tn koe, Minita.
Kia ora koutou katoa. I tenei
ra, e rima nga keehi o nga
keehi COVID kua whakatauhia ki
te ripoata. Tuhinga o mua ko
era ke he kawemai he i kitea
ratou i roto i E toru nga keehi
hapori hou. E rua nga
hoaputanga o nga keehi kua
mohiotia i mua ake nei, a
kotahi kei te tirotirohia. He
take taapiri i korerohia
inanahi ano he. Kua whakauruhia
te whakaputanga o te whare, i
raro i te tirotiro, me te
raupapa ira e whakahaerehia ana
i runga i taua keehi me te
etahi atu mea hou, ka whiwhi

English: 
afternoon, everybody. Today,
I'll provide you a bit more
information in terms of
membership for the reference
group that will be providing
oversight of the government's
updated testing plan. I'll
also about the use of QR codes
on public transport. And we
will, combined, talk a little
more about progress on
testing. First, I will start
with the Director-General's
update on cases.
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Thank
you, Minister. Kia ora koutou
katoa. Today, there are a
total of five new confirmed
COVID cases to report. Two of
those are imported cases and
they were detected in our
managed isolation facilities.
There are three new community
cases. Two are contacts of
cases that were already known
about, and one is under
investigation. An additional
case that was reported
yesterday as a household
contact has now been
classified as under
investigation, and genome
sequencing is underway on that
case and on the other new
ones, we will also get the
genome sequencing done. Our

English: 
total number of confirmed
cases is now 1,344. The total
number of active cases is 134,
of which 21 are imported cases
that were detected in managed
isolation. Today's imported
cases include a female in her
50s and a male in his 30s.
Further information on their
travel routes to New Zealand
will be made available through
our statement later. Both have
been transferred to the
Auckland quarantine facility.
By this morning, our
contact-tracing team had
identified a total of 2,400
close contacts of cases, of
which 2,368 had been
contacted, and were
self-isolating and being
tested, and we're in the
process of contacting the
remainder. There's one area of
interest that I want to
mention specifically today.
Auckland Regional Public
Health Service can confirm
that five people associated

Maori: 
ano hoki matou i te raupapa
genome kua oti. Ko te maha o
nga keehi kua whakaotia
inaianei ko 1,344. Ko te katoa
o nga keehi kaha e 134, ko 21
ana. Ko nga keehi i kawemai i
kitea i te wehenga whakahaere.
Ko nga keehi i kawemahia i enei
ra ko tetahi wahine i roto i
ona 50an me te tane kei runga i
ona 30s. Ko etahi atu korero mo
o raatau huarahi haerenga ki
New Ka waatea a Aotearoa ma
roto i ta maatau korero i muri
mai. Kua heke raua ki te whare
taraiwa o Tamaki Makaurau. Na
tenei ata, tatou raka
whakap-whakapapa tohua. He
2,400 nga hononga piri mo nga
keehi, ana he 2,368. Kua
paatuhia, a, ko ratou ano te
wehe me te whakamatau, me te
kei te maatau ake i te whakap
atu ki te toenga. He kotahi te
waahanga e pirangi ana au ki te
whakahua i tenei ra. Ko te

English: 
with the Mount Roskill
evangelical Fellowship Church
have been diagnosed with
COVID-19 in the last two or
three days. So we're asking
anyone who attended the
following events to get tested
as soon as possible:
They are, services held at the
church, on Stoddard Road, on
the 8th, 9th or 11th of
August. And a wedding held at
the church on Friday the 7th
of August. Anyone who attended
these events and is currently
unwell, or has experienced any
signs of COVID-19 in the past
two weeks, should stay at home
except when getting their
test. They should wear a mask
and travel directly to and
from the testing centre, ring
ahead, stay in self-isolation
until you have returned a
negative test result and until
24 hours after you are
completely well, and Auckland
regional public Health will be
putting out more details in a
statement this afternoon,
including people who may be

Maori: 
Ratonga Hauora Hauora a rohe o
Akarana e whakaaria ana kia
rima. Tangata whai hononga ki
te Maunga Roskill Rongonui
Rongonui I tohungia te Hahi ki
COVID-19 i roto i nga waahanga
e rua kia toru ranei nga ra. Na
kei te patai atu matou ki
tetahi i tae mai ki nga
huihuinga e whai ake nei
Whakamatauria wawe
tonu: Ko ratau, nga ratonga kei
te hahi, kei Stoddard Road, kei
8, 9 o 11 o Akuhata ranei. Na
he marena i tu ki te whare
karakia i te Paraire te 7 o
Akuhata. Ko nga tangata i tae
atu ki enei huihuinga kaore nei
i te pai, kei te noho ranei.
Kua pa ki nga tohu o te
COVID-19 i nga wiki e rua kua
hipa. me noho tonu ki te
kaainga mena ka whiwhi waa
whakamatautau. Me mau ratou i
te kanohi kanohi ka haere tika
atu ki te pokap
whakamtautau, toha i mua, kia
noho wehenga-a tae noa ki a koe.
Kua hoki mai te whakatau mo te
whakamatautau kino tae noa ki
te 24 haora i muri. Kei te ora
pai koe, me te Hauora o te rohe
o Akarana. Ka whakaputaina atu
etahi atu korero i roto i tenei

Maori: 
korero. I te ahiahi, tae atu ki
nga taangata ka haere pea ki te
whakamatautau. Tr pea ka
hamene te hunga mate ki te
Hauora Hauora, kia mohio ai
ratau i a ratau ki aua
huihuinga ka tuku i a raatau
korero ki runga. Kua 163 nga
taangata kua honohono ki nga
kohinga whai i nukuhia ki roto
i te whare papataarangi o
Akarana. Kei roto i tenei ko te
90 nga taangata i whakamatau
pai hoap whare. I tenei ra,
tokoiwa nga taangata e whiwhi
ana i te hunga
whakangungu-taumata tiaki mo
COVID-19- he waahanga katoa
enei o Akarana te pakarutanga o
te hapori. He taapiri ake kei
te hono atu ki te pakarutanga o
roto Waikato Te hhipera,
engari ehara i te mea mo nga
tohu COVID-19-e p ana. E rua
nga turoro i te Huringa o Taone
o Akarana. He mauritau te
tokorua, ka noho mokemoke i te
kaainga. Tokotoru nga turoro i
te Hauora o Te Tai Tokerau
Shore. E rua kei te noho
mokemoke i runga i te kaari. Ko
tetahi kei te kaha te tiaki i
roto i te whaainga nui. A e wha
nga turoro me COVID-19 i roto
Halemai Middlemore. Tokomaha
nga mea e pumau ana, a ko enei

English: 
going to be tested. Those
people might also ring
Healthline and let them know
that they were at those events
and pass their details on.
There are now 163 people who
are linked to the cluster who
have been moved into the
Auckland quarantine facility.
This includes 90 people who
have tested positive as well
as household contacts. Today,
there are nine people
receiving hospital-level care
for COVID-19 - all are part of
the Auckland community
outbreak. There is an
additional person connected to
the outbreak in Waikato
Hospital, but not for
COVID-19-related symptoms.
There are two patients at
Auckland City Hospital. Both
are stable and in isolation on
a ward. Three patients at
North Shore Hospital. Two are
stable in isolation on a ward.
One is in intensive care in a
critical condition. And there
are four patients with
COVID-19 in Middlemore
Hospital. Two are stable, and
each of these in isolation on
a ward. Two are in ICU and
considered critical. As far as

English: 
testing goes, yesterday,
laboratories around the
country processed 8,559 tests.
Our total tests to date now
being 710,063. The Auckland
regional DHBs are increasing
their mobile and pop-up
testing sites again this week,
and we encourage people to go
along. Today and tomorrow,
there are pop-up testing sites
at Ruanui Library car park, at
Randwick Park School, at
Takahemonu, the Tongan
Methodist Church, and Mount
Smart Stadium. These
complement those across the
Auckland region and will move
to different communities every
2-3 days. I should say that,
over this next week or so,
there will be some testing in
the community of people
without symptoms, and DHBs
will ensure that pop-ups are
in the communities where we do
want people - even those
without symptoms - to be
tested. This is part of our
surveillance programme to help
ensure we have identified the

Maori: 
o enei ka wehe i runga i te
kaari. E rua kei roto i te ICU
ka whakaarohia he kino. Inanahi
kei te haere tonu te
whakamatautau, inanahi,
taiwhanga huri noa i
whakahaerehia e te whenua nga
whakamatautau 8,559. Ko a matou
whakamatautau katoa tae noa mai
inaianei 710,063. Kei te piki
haere te rohe pkoro a DHBs o
Akarana. Panui ano nga waahi
whakamatautau mo tenei wiki, me
te whakahau iwi ka haere. I
tenei ra me apopo, kei reira
nga papanga whakamatautau
whakatuu i. Ruanui Library waka
waka, at Randwick. Te Kura
auahi, at Takahemonu, te Hahi
Metoriti o Tonga, me te Hunga
Moutere Maunga. Ko enei hei
whakapiri i nga rohe puta noa i
te rohe o Akarana e hiahia ana
neke ki nga hapori rereke i nga
ra 2-3. Me kii atu e au, i
tenei wiki ka neke atu ranei ka
tu mai ko te whakamatautau i te
hapori o te hunga kaore he
tohu, me te. Ka whakapumautia e
nga DHB nga haeretanga a nga
hapori kei a tatou kei te
hiahia te iwi- ara ko nga mea
kaore he tohu- kia
whakamatautauria. Koinei te
waahanga o ta maatau htaka

English: 
full extent of the current
outbreak. People can also get
testing at their GPs, both in
Auckland and around the
country. Finally, on the COVID
Tracer app, there are now
1,834,000 people registered on
the app, and an average of 1.4
million scans every day for
the past seven days. Thank
you, Minister.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Thank you
very much, Dr Bloomfield. The
recent case of COVID-19 being
able to be predamong
passengers on a public bus has
prompted the government to
make the wearing of masks or
face coverings on public
transport compulsory at Level
2 or above from 11:59pm on
Sunday the 30th of August.
It's a precautionary approach,
and it will be another
important layer to our
prevention strategy as we
continue to learn and adapt.
We'll also, from that same
time, be making the display of
QR codes mandatory on most
forms of public transport at
all levels. It will come into
force from 11:59pm on

Maori: 
tirotiro hei whakaora. Kua
tautuhia e matou te whanui o
nga rerenga o naianei. Ka taea
hoki e te taangata te
whakamatautau i o raatau GP,
kei Akarana hoki a huri noa i
te motu. Hei whakamutunga, mo
te COVID Tracer taupnga, i
reira. Kei te 1,834,000 nga
tangata kua rhitatia i runga
i te taupnga, a Tuhinga o
mua. 4 miriona karapa mo ia ra
Tuhinga o mua e whitu nga ra.
Tn koe, Minita. HIPKIN
TENEI: Mauruuru nui, Dr
Bloomfield. Ko te keehi o
COVID-19 te wa e noho ana ko
nga kaihoroi mua i runga pahi
pahi kua akiaki te kawanatanga
ki te mahi. Ka mau i te kairau,
te uhi ranei i nga mata ki
runga i nga kawenga a te iwi.
Mana i te Taumata 2, ki runga
ake ranei mai i te 11:59 pm i
te Rtapu te 30 o Akuhata. He
huarahi tupato tonu ana, a ka
puta. Tetahi paparanga nui mo
to maatau rautaki aukati tonu
tatou ki te ako me te urutau.
Ka whai ano hoki tatou, mai i
taua waa ano ka whakaatu i te
QR. He tohu mo te nuinga o nga
momo kawenga a te iwi i nga

English: 
Thursday, the 3rd of December
- a few days later to give
people enough time to comply.
The rollout of face coverings
and QR codes are measures to
help us ensure the safety of
public transport workers and
people who take the bus or
train to work or to school. QR
codes have been successfully
rolled out in over 320,000
retail and other venues across
the country and, as the
Director-General has
indicated, the uptake of the
app and usage of the app
continues to increase day on
day. This latest requirement
will add to the system's
overall effectiveness and
provide an extra layer of
assurance and speed to our
contact-tracing processes.
Public transport involves
people being in close
proximity to one another and,
while some public transport
companies do have ways of
identifying passengers through
ticketing systems - much like
airlines and InterCity coaches
can - it isn't widespread
enough to provide us with the
universal coverage that we are
looking for. So we consider

Maori: 
taumata katoa. Ka puta te mana
mai i te 11:59 pm i te Rpare,
te 3 o. Hakihea- he ra i muri
mai ki te hoatu i te wa ki te
tangata ki te whakatutuki. Ko
te whakaputanga o nga arai
kanohi me nga waehere QR he mea
hei awhina me whakarite e tatou
te haumaru o nga kaimahi waka
a-iwi me nga iwi ka kawe i te
pahi, i te tereina ranei ki te
mahi, ki te kura ranei. Ko nga
waehere QR kua angitu i te neke
atu i te 320,000 tauhokohoko.
Me era atu waahi puta noa i te
motu, a, hei Kaiwhakahaere
Tuarua. Kua tohua, ko te
taaputanga o te taupnga me te
whakamahi i te haere tonu te
taupnga ki te whakanui ake i
tenei ra. Ko tenei whakaritenga
hou ka whai taapiri ki te whai
hua o te punaha. Me te
whakarato i tetahi atu
whakapaparanga ma te tere me te
tere o ta maatau whakap ng tukae
kawe a te Taha ki te hunga e
tata ana ki. Tetahi ki tetahi,
ahakoa e mahi ana etahi
kamupene kawe waka tmatanui.
He huarahi ki te tautuhi i nga
kaihi haerere na roto i nga
punaha tohu. He rite ki nga
kamupene rererangi me nga
kaitohutohu InterCity- kaore

Maori: 
pea nui te hora ki a maatau ki
te kapinga o te ao Kei te rapu
tatou mo. Na e whakaaro ana ko
nga tohu QR he iti ake te
taumaha i te. Record-tinana mo
te iwi whnui me te nga
kaihokohoko kawe, kei te tere
ake ano, ka ngawari ki te tiki.
Pa atu ki te tangata na roto i
te COVID Tracer taupnga mena
kei te Kei te whakamahia nga
waehere QR. Ko nga waehere QR
he pai ake te taputapu
whakapiri honohono atu i te Hop
i te. Kaati kiriahi na te mea
kaore i te rhita he maha nga
iwi. Ko nga Kaari Kaaporo ranei
na, na, ka taea e nga korero
whakapiri-whakapapa te mahi
uaua atu ki te kitea. Ka
whakamahia tonu e matou nga
kaari kaari o Hop me te kaapapa
i reira e tika ana. Na, penei i
taku i korero ai, mai i te
Rpare i muri mai, ko te
whakaaturanga QR. Ko nga tohu
ka waiho hei kaupapa mo nga
momo waka kawe katoa. Ko nga
mema o te iwi whanui, na reira
ka uru ki nga pahi, nga
tereina, nga taake, waka me nga
waka rideshare. Engari ka oti,
kaua e whakarerea to motuka
motuhake. Ko nga kaiwhakarato
waka, ahakoa, kaore i te
hiahiatia kia whakamana i te.
Ota- ara, kaore e tika kia

English: 
that QR codes are less
burdensome than a physical
recordkeeping for the public
and for the transport
operators, and it's also
faster and easier to get in
touch with people through the
COVID Tracer app if the QR
codes are being used. QR codes
are also a better
contact-tracing tool than the
Hop or Snapper cards because
many people don't register
their Hop or Snapper cards
and, therefore,
contact-tracing details can be
more difficult to find. We
will still use Hop and Snapper
card information where that is
appropriate. So, as I've said,
from next Thursday, the
displaying of QR codes will be
a requirement on all transport
modes carrying members of the
public, so that'll include
bus, trains, taxis, ferries
and rideshare vehicles. But it
does, of course, exclude your
private car. Transport
operators, though, will not be
required to enforce the order
- ie, they won't have to make
people scan the QR code -
because that would be too

English: 
burdensome for them. But we
are asking people to comply.
The Roche Simpson Group, which
the government is establishing
to provide oversight of the
government's testing and
surveillance plans, is now in
place, with three additional
members. They are Dr Api
Talamaitoga, of the New
Zealand GPs Pacific Chapter,
Dr Warai Jenson, of the Hauora
Coalition, and the director of
the Centre for International
Health at the University of
Otago. The group will be
reporting to me on the
implementation of the updated
COVID-19 testing plan and the
surveillance plan, and they'll
work with government agencies
and stakeholders, including
private-sector employers and
unions, to gather useful
information. This will add
support to the Ministry of
Health, which continues to
perform well in its leadership
of the COVID-19 health

Maori: 
tohua e te tangata te tohu QR-
na te mea he taumaha rawa ta
ratou. Engari kei te tono matou
kia whakairihia e te tangata.
Ko te Roopu Roche Simpson, na
te kawanatanga te whakat hei
whakarato i te tirotiro a te
kwanatanga. Me nga mahere mo
te tirotiro, kua oti ke
inaianei, tokotoru etahi atu
mema. Kei a ratou. Ko Dr Api
Talamaitoga, no te
Moana-nui-a-Kiwa mo te
Moana-nui-a-Kiwa Upoko, Dr
Warai. Ko Jenson, o te Hauora
Coalition, me te Kaiwhakahaere
o te Awhina mo te Hauora Hauora
i te Whare Wananga o Otago. Ka
ripoatahia e te roopu ki ahau
mo te whakatinanatanga o ko te
mahere whakamatautau
whakamatautau COVID-19 me te
mahere tirotiro, me. Ka mahi
tahi ratau me nga tari a te
kawanatanga me nga kaiwhakauru,
tae atu ki nga kaiwhakawhiwhi
mahi-roopu me nga uniana, ki te
huihui krero whaihua. Ka
taapiri atu tenei tautoko ki te

English: 
response. The group will be
focusing on ensuring cases are
rapidly identified,
identifying and minimising any
undetected community spread,
monitoring people at higher
risk of exposure, and ensuring
that Maori and Pasifika people
gain effective and equitable
access to testing. As we all
know very well, this is a
tricky virus. But
comprehensive border and
surveillance testing will
continue to play a very
important role in helping us
to pick up any new cases and
deploy contact tracing
quickly. All aspects of the
surveillance and testing plans
will be in scope for the
group, including all aspects
in the community, at the
border, and at managed
isolation and quarantine
facilities. Nearly every
country in the world is
experiencing new cases of
COVID-19. The global pandemic
continues to grow rapidly
outside of our borders. So
testing is a key part of
managing the risk that

Maori: 
Manatu Hauora, tera. Ka mahi
tonu i tana tino kaiarahi i te
COVID-19 urupare hauora. Ka
arotahi te roopu ki te
whakarite kia tere haere nga
keehi. Kua tautuhia, te tautuhi
me te whakaiti i tetahi hapori
kore e kohia. Horapa, tirotiro
i te hunga ka kaha ake te mate,
a. Te whakarite kia whai hua te
iwi Maori me te Pasifika
riterite te uru ki te
whakamatautau. I ta tatou katoa
e tino mohio ana, he huaketo
uaua tenei. Engari ko te rohe
whaanui me nga whakamatautau
tirotiro ka haere tonu. He
takaro nui hei awhina i a
maatau ki te tarai i tetahi.
Nga take hou me te tuku wawe i
nga huarahi whakapiri. Ko nga
ahuatanga katoa o te mahere
tirotiro me nga whakamatautau
ka uru ki roto. Kaupae mo te
roopu, me nga ahuatanga katoa i
te hapori, i. Te rohe, me te
wehenga whakawehe me nga whare
taraiwa. Tata ki nga whenua
katoa o te ao e pa ana ki nga
keehi hou mo te COVID-19. Kei
te tipu haere te mate uruta ki

English: 
COVID-19 poses to New Zealand
and preventing it reappearing
in our community. Regular
COVID-19 testing does need to
be part of our new normal. Our
plan will ensure that anyone
with flu-like symptoms gets a
test. It will deliver regular
asymptomatic testing of border
staff and others who are at
risk, such as managed
isolation and quarantine
workers. It is a big
operation. We already have
among the highest rates of
testing in the world for the
number of cases that we have,
and we're very well-positioned
in that regard. But we can
strive to do better, as we
will. No system is foolproof,
but the work of this committee
will strengthen the extensive
testing we've already done,
which forms an important part
of our ongoing elimination
strategy and our strategy to
identify any future cases.
With that, very happy to
answer questions. Yes?
>> REPORTER: On the issue of
masks, there is growing
concern with some of the

Maori: 
waho o waho o o tatou rohe. Na
ko te whakamatautau he waahanga
nui ki te whakahaere i te
tupono o COVID-19 Haere ki te
motu me te aukati i te tirotiro
ano ki to taatau hapori. Ko te
whakamatautau COVID-19 te waa
me whai waahi ki ta maatau
tonu. Ma ta maatau mahere e
whakarite te tangata me te mate
rehu ka rite ki te
whakamataut Ka tukuna e ia
nga whakamatautau mate rite
tonu ki nga kaimahi o te rohe
me etahi at. Ko wai e raru
ana, penei i te wehenga
whakahaere me te kaimahi
taratahi He mahinga nui. Kei
roto i a maatau nga reanga
teitei o te whakamatautau i te
ao. Mo te nama. Mo nga keehi
kei a tatou, a kua tino pai
taatau ki taua whakaaro. Engari
ka taea e tatou te ngana ki te
mahi i te pai ake, kia rite ki
ta tatou e pai  Kaore tetahi
punaha e wairangi, engari ko te
mahi a tenei komiti kaare.
Whakapakari i nga whakamatautau
maha kua oti i aatau te mahi.
Tetahi waahanga nui o taatau
rautaki whakakorea me to maatau
rautaki hei whakatau i nga
keehi e whai ake nei. Ma te
tena, he tino koa ki te
whakautu i nga paatai. Ae?

Maori: 
KAUPAPA: I te take o te masks,
kei te piki haere te
awangawanga me. Etahi o nga
kaiwhakarato i Akarana ki te
Tonga, otira kei te Hapori
Moana-nui-a-Kiwa, kaore i reira
nga taonga tuku kanohi. He aha
te mahi i waenga i a koe ka
oti? he iti rawa te haereere i
mua o te wehenga o te Rtapu o
waenganui po? HIPKIN
KRIS: Kua tohatoha matou mo te
3 miriona taara ki nga
whakahaere hapori e mahi ana i
roto i aua hapori noho ai te
iwi e kore pea i roto i te
tranga ki te hoko ia ratou.
Kua mahi tahi matou me nga
hokomaha, na. Te ahunga
whakamua, ko te hunga e mahi
ana i Te Taha Taha, me nga Kai
Tinana, ko wai. Mahi ki a Pack&
Tiaki me era atu, me waatea
etahi. He taarua te whaainga i
roto i ta raatau mekameka tuku,
na reira i whakaratohia e matoua
motu mo te awhina i te piriti i
taua puta. Ko nga kai o te
kai kua whakatauhia ki a maatau
he totoka to raatau mekameka.
Kei te whakarite maatau kei te
waatea nga taarua hei tiki atu
ma nga tangata. Engari ano
hoki, kia maumahara kei te
korero tatou mo nga arai kanohi
o runga waka a-iwi. Kaore e
tika ana kia waiho ko ratou he
kanohi whakarara. Ka taea e

English: 
providers in South Auckland,
particularly in the Pacific
community, that the supply of
masks is not there. What are
you doing between now and then
to make sure that there are
enough to go around ahead of
the Sunday midnight flickover?
>>
CHRIS HIPKINS: We have
distributed 3 million masks to
community organisations
working in those communities
where people might not be in a
position to buy them. We've
also been working with the
supermarkets, so Progressive,
who deal with Countdown, and
Foodstuffs, who deal with Pack
& Save and so on, have some
available. Countdown had a gap
in their supply chain, so we
provided 2 million from the
national supply to help bridge
that gap. Foodstuffs have
ensured us their supply chain
is solid. We are making sure
that masks are available for
people to get. But also, bear
in mind we're talking about
face coverings on public
transport. They don't have to
be surgical masks. They can be
a bandanna, for example.
People can make their own

Maori: 
ratou te bandanna, hei tauira.
Ka taea e te taangata te hanga
i o raatau kanohi kanohi. Ko te
mea nui i konei ko tetahi mea
kua herea ki te ihu. Ka aukati
te waha i te hunga- mena kei te
maremara ratou. Ko nga mea
katoa- mai i te horahanga o o
ratou hinu, ka mutu te
whakaheke i te mate.
KAUPAPA: Ki te kii koe i aua
nama nui, ka pai te tangi maha.
Ae ra, ki te korero koe i te
kanohi kanohi, ka taea pea e
koe. Kia whiwhi i tetahi paanga
10, tokorua ki ia whanau, kaore
rawa haere tawhiti rawa. Kei te
awangawanga koe mo i HARIKIRI
KORERO: Kaore. Ka rite ki taku
korero, me akiaki te iwi ki te
whakamahi i te masks ka taea te
whaka hea nga tangata. Me
te hipoki mata hipoki. Ka taea
e koe te hanga i tetahi ki te
kaainga. Kaore ratou i te uaua
ki te tarai. He maha tonu nga
aratohu kei runga i te Ipurangi
me pehea kia mahi koe i te
reira. Engari ko te mea tika,
ka taea e koe te whakamahi i
nga mea ngawari penei i nga
band na atu, me nga
tangata na te rahi, mai i nga
urupare kua kitea e au o nga
tangata e piki haere ana i
runga i nga waka a te iwi i te
ra whakamutunga. E rua ranei,

English: 
masks. The important thing
here is that something tied
over the nose and mouth will
prevent people from - if
they're coughing or whatever -
from spreading their saliva,
and therefore reduce the risk.
>> REPORTER: When you say
those big numbers, they sound
like a lot. Of course, if
you're talking a disposable
mask, you might be getting a
pack of 10 or a couple per
family, and they won't go very
far. Are you concern about >>
in
CHRIS HIPKINS: No. Like I
said, people should be
encouraged to use reusable
masks where people. And a
reusable face covering. You
can make one at home. They're
not difficult to make. There's
a whole lot of guidance on the
Internet around how you might
do that. But actually, you can
use simple things like
bandannas and so on, and
people by and large, from the
feedback I've seen of people
getting on and off public
transport in the last day or
two, have found all sorts of
ways of making sure they're
complying.
>> Do these cases in Mount
Roskill's church connected to

Maori: 
kua kitea nga waahanga katoa e
puta mai ai kei te tarai ratau.
Me mahi enei keehi i te whare
karakia o Maunga Roskill me te
hononga ki te South Auckland
cluster? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: I tenei wa, kei a
raatau katoa honoa ki tetahi ki
tetahi. Engari kaore i kitea e
maua te hono ki nga tahumaero
ki te puawai, kei te tatari
matou mo te whakangao ira
katoa. Ko te tikanga, ka
whakapono matou ka hono ratou
ki te tautau. Kaore ano kia
whaaia e tatou te hononga
whanaketanga. Engari he katoa
ratou- kei te rite ratou ki te
puawai mini i tenei wa. Ko era
keehi, me nga keehi a te
tangata i tuku ki a Te Tai
Tokerau. Hoko Hauora i te
Paraire po, a kaore i kitea he
taatau nga take huri noa i taua
tangata. Ano, ko te taangata i
pa ki mua i tetahi whakaurunga.
I hono ki te haerenga a te

English: 
the South Auckland cluster?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: At this
point, they're all connected
to each other. But we haven't
found the epidemiological link
to the cluster, and we're
waiting for the whole genome
sequencing. In a sense, we
believe they will be linked to
the cluster. We haven't got
the epidemiological link yet.
But they are all - they're
like a mini cluster at the
moment. Those cases, with the
case of the person who
presented to North Shore
Hospital on Friday night, and
we've found no other cases
around that person. Plus, the
person who had previously been
in a facility and was
associated with travel by a
relative to Hobbiten - we
haven't found a genomic or
epidemiological link yet.
>> With the other contacts,

Maori: 
whanaunga ki a Hobbiten- kaore
ano kia kitehia he hononga
aaiao ranei. Me era atu.
Hoap, etahi atu hoapori
hapori- he aha ka waiho koe
whakaarohia he waahanga o te
hononga? Ranei ka pakaru ake
pea te pakarutanga tuarua?
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: E tumanako ana
matou ka hono atu tera ki nga
tautau. Ki te tirohia e tatou
te ahua o nga korero a te
hapori. Ki reira, kaore ano kia
tae tonu mai he aha te hononga
honohono ko tenei. Tera ano
etahi atu raupaparahi ano. Hei
tauira, ko te GP me o raatau
whanau, kei a tatou taea ki te
hono ki te pakarutanga engari,
rite noa, e kore kua taea ki te
hono i taua hononga
epidemiological. No reira, ko
nga waahanga whakangao katoa ka
tino awhina i runga i taua
kaupapa. Ki te whakamatautau i
te wehenga whakahaere, he aha
te rau. O te iwi e kore e
whakamatautauria i te rua o mua
i te wa e wehe ana i nga
waahanga? HIPKIN
TENEI: I whanga ahau i tenei
patai, na reira kua whiwhi ahau
nama mo koe. Mai i te 8 o Hune
tae atu ki inanahi, inanahi. I

English: 
other community contacts -
what would make you think
they're part of the link? Or
could it be a potentially
unrelated second outbreak?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: We fully
expect that it will link to
the existing cluster. If we
look at the sort of
demographic profile of the
community there, we just
haven't yet got what the
epidemiological link is yet.
There are also some other
outstanding cases. For
example, the GP and their
family, which we've been able
to associate with the outbreak
but, as of yet, not been able
to make that epidemiological
link. So the whole genome
sequencing will be very
helpful in that regard.
>> On testing in managed
isolation, what percentage of
people are not being tested
twice before they leave the
facilities?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: I
anticipated this question, so
I've got some numbers for you.
From the 8th of June through
to yesterday, there were
20,065 Day 3 swabs taken and

English: 
19,473 Day 12 swabs taken.
There are currently 5,204
people still in managed
isolation or quarantine, which
explains why the Day 12 swabs
number is that much lower. The
advice that I have had is that
15 adults have refused a Day
12 test in total over that
period of time. Of course,
their stay is extended in
managed isolation as a result
of that. Another interesting
number with regard to these
tests - there have been 14
positive tests at Day 12. 12
of those had a negative Day 3
test, meaning only two of the
people who tested positive had
not had a Day 3 test. That was
because of the time frame -
those people got their
positive Day 12 test just at
the beginning of the time when
we tightened up the testing
regime in June. And so this
should give the community
confidence that no-one is
coming out of managed
isolation or quarantine

Maori: 
reira 20,065 Te ra 3 rerewe. I
tangohia a 19,473 Day Day swab
tangohia. I tenei wa he 5,204
taangata kei te noho wehea te
whakahaere. Maramataka, e
whakamarama nei he aha te take
o te ra 12 o te nuku tera raro.
Ko te tohutohu kua tae mai ki
ahau ko nga pakeke 15 kua
paopao Whakamtautau 12 i roto
i te katoa i roto i taua waa.
Ae ra, kua roa to ratau noho ki
te wehenga whakahaere i te taha
o Tuhinga o mua. Ko tetahi atu
nama whakamere mo enei
whakamatautau- he 14 nga
whakamatautau pai i te Ra 12.
12 o te hunga i whakamtautau
raru i te Day 3, e rua anake.
Ko nga taangata i whakamatau
pai kaore i te whakamatautau 3.
Na te mea he wa ano- ka riro i
te hunga nei ko a ratau
whakamatau Whiringa 12 tika i
te tiimatanga o te waa i a
mtou e whakapakaritia ana i
te rehitatanga whakamtautau i
te marama o Hu Na me penei
tonu te whakaaro o te hapori
kaore tetahi. Kei te puta ke

Maori: 
atu i te wehenga o te
whakahaere i te noho kore ranei
te whai i te pire hauora ma.
Koina te mea nui kei konei. I
te Ra 3, kaore e whakamatauhia
e taatau te katoa. Hei tauira,
kaore nga tamariki e
whakamatautauhia i te ra 3 ki
te kore he take hei
whakamatautau ma ratou. Na, ki
te hoki mai o ratau matua kia
pai, hei tauira Whakamatauria
ana. Engari kaore matou e
whakamatau i nga tamariki
taiohi i te ra 3. He aha koe i
kore ai i tuku i taua raraunga
i mua? HISKOHU
KOROHI: Ae ra, kaore ahau i
patai. Ana, kei a koe. HIKI
KOREUTU: Ehara i te mea nui mo
taua taumata. Engari i te mea i
tenei wa ko te whakapae mo enei
nama, Kua whiwhi e ahau nga
nama tika i konei. I aua tau,
kaore e taea e koe te kii he
maha te maha Kaore nga iwi i
tango i te whakamatautau o te
Ra 3? HIPKIN
TUARUA: Kare, kaore ano au i
mau i taua ahua i mua ko au,
ehara. He aha e kore ai? HAKAI
HOKI: Ka koa ahau ki te tiki,
engari ko au. Whakaarohia nga
nama kua tohua e au ki te
whakaatu mai. Kei te mahia e te
tangata- kei te maatau te

English: 
without having a clean bill of
health. That's the critical
thing here. At Day 3, we do
not test absolutely everybody.
Children, for example, are not
routinely tested at Day 3
unless there is a reason to
test them. So if their parents
returned positive, for
example, they would be tested
then. But we do not routinely
test very young children at
Day 3.
>> Why have you not been able
to ever provide that data
before?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Well, I
haven't been asked.
>> Well, you have.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Not for that
level of detail. But given
that there's now speculation
about these numbers, I've got
the exact numbers here.
>> In those numbers, you can't
explicitly say how many people
have not taken the Day 3 test?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No, I
haven't got that figure in
front of me, no.
>> Why not?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: I'm
certainly happy to get it, but
I think the numbers that I
have supplied should give
assurance that people are
doing - are having a test
before they leave. Like I
said, not everybody gets a Day

Maori: 
whakamatautau i mua i to ratou
wehenga. Ka rite ki taku
korero, kaore nga taangata
katoa e whakamatautau i te Day
3 ka hiahi 3
whakamatautau. Kaore matou e
whakamatautau i nga tamariki i
te ra 3. Pehea mo te 1,000
whakamtautau-a-ra Akarana? He
aha ai e rua nga waahanga kua
whaaia ki nga pop-up? He HIPKIN
TUARUA: Ka patai atu ahau ki te
Tumuaki Tuarua kia korero kei
runga nga waahi motuhake.
Engari ko tetahi waahanga ka
waiho ratou na te mea he waahi
nui taatau e hiahia ana kia
kite i nga nama whakamatautau e
piki ana. ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: E tika ana, e te
Minita. He taapiri enei ki ta
te kaupapa, Ki taku whakaaro,
20 hapori pokap
whakamtautau kua
whakapumautia i runga i te
Tuhinga o mua. Kei reira hoki
etahi. Enei kua tautuhia nga
waahi. Hei waahi e hiahiatia
ana e nga taupori kia pai ake
ai te whakamatautau. ka whai
waahi atu taatau ki te, a ka
huri te DHB. Rohe kia pai ai
aua taupori- ina koa ki te
Moana-nui-a-Kiwa. Taupori ki te

English: 
3 test or needs a Day 3 test.
We do not routinely test
children at Day 3.
>> How about the 1,000
test-a-day Auckland? Why have
two areas been specifically
targeted for pop-ups?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: I'll ask the
Director-General to comment on
where the specific locations
are. But partly they'll be
because they may be areas
where we want to see the
testing numbers going up.
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: That's
exactly right, Minister. These
are in addition to the, I
think, 20 community testing
centres that have been
established over the last
couple of weeks. Some were
already in there. These
locations have been identified
as places where populations we
want to get more testing done
in, we'll get more access to,
and the DHB will move around
the region to make sure those
populations - particularly the
Pacific population in South

Maori: 
Tonga me te Hauauru o Akarana-
kua whai waahi ki te
whakamatautau. I nga teihana
whakamana i tenei ra, kei te
kite taatau ptata
whakamtautau kore-pana aha te
mahi ki te whakauru i nga
taangata ki te whakamatautau?
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ae, e mohio ana
ahau ki nga papa hauora o te
rohe kua tukuna etahi korero,
kua pa ke atu korero mo nga mea
ka taea e taatau ki te taumata
aa-motu. Kei te whakaaro ahau
ko tetahi o nga mea ka taea e
au te akiaki i nga tangata- o
akoranga ko nga tohu kei roto i
te whakamatautau. Engari ano
hoki, ko nga tangata kaore nei
ona tohu- otir, ki te
Moananui-a-Kiwa hapori i te
Hauauru me te tonga o Akarana-
Kei te akiaki ahau ia ratou ka
haere ano hoki ki te rapu
whakamatautau. Dr Bloomfield,
ka taea e koe te korero ki a
koe nga mea mo te tuatahi.
Whakakhorehia te tono a te
Reserve Bank mo te whakaweto
manga manga me te aha koe i
puta ai ki te whakarereke i to
hinengaro mo tetahi ra i muri
mai? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ko te mea ka taea e
au te kii atu, ko te akoranga,
Ko ahau whakaae whakahekenga
ranei kei runga. Ptake o nga

English: 
and West Auckland - have ready
access to testing.
>> At testing stations today,
we're seeing near-empty
testing stations what is
practically being done to get
people in for a test?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Yes, I
know the district health
boards have been putting some
communications out, and we've
just been talking about what
we can do at a national level.
I guess one of the things I
can do is encourage people -
of course, anyone with
symptoms should get a test.
But also, people who don't
have symptoms - in particular,
in that Pacific community in
West and South Auckland - I
would encourage them to also
go and seek a test.
>> Dr Bloomfield, can you tell
us anything about why you
initially rejected the Reserve
Bank's application for an
exemption for bank branches
and, why you appeared to
change your mind about a day
later?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: What I
can say is, of course, I
approve or decline exemptions
on the basis of advice from my
team, who go through a
thorough process of assessing

English: 
applications. When I initially
declined the application for
that exemption, the team
wasn't aware of information
that previously, in Alert
Level 3, these banks and
credit unions and so on had
been allowed to open. At one
point when we came out through
Alert Level 3. Once that was
made known to us, I asked them
to reassess the application,
and it was on the basis of
their updated advice that I
then gave the approval for the
exemption.
>> It seems extraordinary,
even under Level 4, this was
well-known and publicised.
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: What
wasn't clear to the team was
what the formal decision had
been to allow that. So they
sought clarification and, as
you can see, it was provided
quite quickly - the next day -
that confirmed that a decision
had been made. That was
previously under Alert Level
3. And they were able to get
an exemption to support that

Maori: 
tohutohu mai i taku roopu, e
haere hohonu ana te aromatawai
i nga tono. I taku tuatahi i
whakakorehia te tono mo tera.
Aukati, kaore i mohio te roopu
i nga korero i mua, i roto i te
Alert Taumata 3, enei peeke me
nga uniana nama me era atu i
whakaaetia ki te whakatuwhera.
I tetahi wa ka puta matou mai i
te Alert Taumata 3. I te wa kua
whakakitea mai ki a maatau, ka
patai ahau kia whakahoki mai
ano i te. Tono, a i runga i te
kaupapa o o ratou tohutohu
whakahoutia Na ka hoatu e au te
whakaaetanga mo te aukati. He
mea tino whakamiharo, ahakoa i
raro i te Taumata 4, he mohio
tenei ka panui. ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ko te mea kaore i
tino maarama ki te roopu ko te
aha ko te whakataunga kawa i
tuku i tera. Na i rapu ratou ki
te whakamaarama, a, ki ta koe e
kite ana ko tena. I tino
whakaratohia- te ra i muri mai-
kua whakapumautia e tera kua
oti tetahi whakataunga. I mua i

Maori: 
raro i te Alert Taumata 3. A i
taea e ratou te whakawehi hei
tautoko i taua whakataunga. Kei
te waatea te Minita Hauora ki
te whakahaere i nga paatai
penei? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ae- kaore matou e
whakawhirinaki ki taatau ake
kaimahi. I tenei wa, he ope to
tatou mo te hunga 70 e tukatuka
ana enei whakahaunga. Ko te
nuinga o ratou ka ahu mai i
etahi atu whakahaere a te
kawanatanga, no reira ku hei wha
maatau kapa. Tetahi o enei
whakaurunga e whai take ana- ko
te nuinga o ratou. Umanga
umanga kore-hauora ranei- kei
te mahi matou me. Tari tari e
tika ana, ahakoa MBIE, MPI me
era atu runga, ki te tiki i nga
korero whakahirahira e
hiahiatia ana e maatau. I tenei
keehi- he mea pea na te mea, i
taku haamana'o, te ahiahi o te
Rtapu- tera pea na ratou
Kaore i taea te uru atu ki nga
korero i taua waa. Ko te mea
nui, ko te mea kua tohaina nga
korero, Ka tono au ki a ratau
ki te whakahoki ano ka tukuna
atu e raua te tangohanga. Te
paanga nui o te iwi Maori me te
Moananui a Kiwa kei runga i
tenei. Puawai- he aha te pane o
te Maori Pasifika i te whakatau

English: 
decision.
>> Is the Minister of Health
equipped to handle questions
like this?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Yes - we
don't just rely on our own
staff. At the moment, we have
a team of over 70 people
processing these exemptions.
Most of them come from other
government organisations, so
they've come in to bolster our
team. Any of these exemptions
that involve - most of them
involve businesses or
non-health organisations - we
work with the relevant
government department, whether
it's MBIE, MPI and so on, to
get the important information
we need. In this case - it may
have been because it was, in
my recollection, Sunday
afternoon - it may have been
that they couldn't access the
information at that time. The
important thing is, once that
information was provided, I
then asked them to reassess it
and gave the approval for the
exemption.
>> The high percentage of
Maori and Pacific islander in
this cluster - what's the
representation of Maori
Pasifika at the
decision-making table, and
have there been any decisions

Maori: 
kaupapa. Ripanga, me kua
whakatauhia nga whakatau hanga
i roto i. E pa ana ki nga
puawai o Akarana kaore ano kia
pa ki Moura me Pasifika? HIPKIN
TOHU: Ko nga mea ka kite koe,
hei tauira, i roto i. Te
whakamtautau whakamatautau
kua korerotia ake e au, kei
reira te Maori me te tohu
Pasifika mo runga i tera, na te
mea e whakaae ana tatou. He
tohu nui ano te hono mai i te
Maori me. Hapori Pasifika,
otir kua whakawhiwhia te
nuinga Te pakarutanga o te maha
o nga keehi i puta ai taatau i
tenei pu-pua. Kei te mahi
maatau tonu taatau, a kei te
mahi te Manatu Hauora tino
tata, me nga kaiwhakarato
hauora o te Moananui-a-Kiwa me
nga Maori kia ea. Kei te whai
whi ratau ki nga mahi o roto.
Ka kite koe kua whakauruhia he
putea taapiri e hoki ki te
whakarite kei te whiwhi ratou i
te katoa o rauemi e hiahiatia
ana e ratou. Ka taea e au te
korero atu ki a koe, i te
taumata tino tiketike, i te
taumata o te k he
hoa mo oku minita hauora, ko
Peeni Henare me. Kei te whai
whi atu a Jenny Salesa ki

English: 
made in regards to the
Auckland cluster that haven't
involved Moura and Pasifika?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: What you'll
see, for example, in the
testing group I've just
announced, there is Maori and
Pasifika representation on
that, because we do
acknowledge there is a high
degree of engagement from the
Maori and Pasifika
communities, particularly
given the overall demographic
breakdown of the number of
positive cases we've
experienced in this cluster.
We're working very closely,
and the Ministry of Health is
working very closely, with
Pacific and Maori health
providers to ensure that they
are completely engaged and
involved in the process. You
will see that we've put some
additional funding into that
as well to make sure they're
getting all of the resources
that they need. I can tell
you, at very high level, at a
government level, both of my
associate ministers of health,
Peeni Henare and Jenny Salesa,
are involved in all of the
decisions we make around
COVID-19, and are feeding a
Maori perspective into that as

English: 
well, as do other ministers
around the Cabinet table.
>> The testing centres have
been quiet today. How are you
actually going to get to that
7,000 tests a day? Are you
just relying on people showing
up to them?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Well,
yes, I think people will show
up, but we're not just relying
on that. We will have some
communications going out both
locally and nationally. I've
reiterated that message here
today. What I would also say
is that I've written today to
all the DHB chief executives
to give a really clear
expectation around how they
should make sure they are
providing access to testing -
not just in the Auckland
region, but right around the
country. And so they - and we
had a teleconference with them
last evening, so they were all
aware anyway, and they've got
quite explicit plans about how
they can insure there is
access -- ensure there is
access to testing. To
reiterate the comment I made
earlier - we are looking this
week as well to do testing of
asymptomatic people as part of
surveillance just to try and
ring-fence the extent of this
outbreak, particularly in the

Maori: 
roto i a ratau whakatau. A
tawhio noa COVID-19, a kei te
whangai i te tirohanga Maori
pera ano hoki, pera ano me
etahi atu minita huri noa i te
teepu o te Rnanga. Kua
rangimahia nga whare
whakamatautau i tenei ra. Me
pehea e haere ai koe ki taua
whakamatautau 7,000 i ia ra?
Kei te whakawhirinaki noa koe
ki nga tangata e whakaatu ana
ki a raatau? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ae, Ae, ki taku
whakaaro ka pai te tangata
Whakaatuhia, engari kaore matou
e whakawhirinaki noa atu ki
tena. Ka whai waahi etahi o nga
whakawhitiwhiti korero kei roto
i te rohe me te motu. Kua
tirohia e ahau taua karere i
konei i tenei ra. He aha taku e
korero ai kua tuhia e au i
tenei ra ki nga Katoa o te Ao.
Ko nga rangatira nui o te DHB
kia tino puta mai te tumanako
me pehea te whakarite me pehea
e whai waahi ana ki te
whakamatautau- ehara i te rohe
o Akarana anake, engari me huri
noa i te motu. Na pera- a, he
tauhokohoko taatau ki a ratau.
Ahiahi, no reira i mohio katoa
ratou, a ka eke ratou. Mahere
maamaa mo te pehea e taea ai e
raatau te uru ki reira te uru-
te whakarite ka whai waahi te
whakamatautau. Ki te whakahoki
i te korero i mahia e ahau i
mua- kei te rapu tatou tenei
wiki ka taea te mahi
whakamatautau i nga taangata
kore. Waahanga o te tirotiro

Maori: 
noa iho ki te whakamatau me te
taatai-taiapa i te whnuitanga
o tenei te putanga, otir ki
te rohe o Tmaki Makaurau.
HIPKIN
TUARUA: Kei konei ... Hei whai
ake- nga CBAC nui rawa me te
tino uaua i te tonga o Akarana
I katia te wiki i mua i to tono
i a raatau ki te whakamatautau.
Me pehea e taea ai e ratou te
hora ki te whakamatau mena
kaore e taea te toro atu?
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ki taku whakaaro
kua puta taatau i nga wa o mua
e rua wiki e kore noa e taea e
taatau te kawe. Ki te
whakamatautauranga me nga
taaputanga CBAC atu ranei ki te
whakamatautau hapori pokap,
me nga kapa pkoro, me nga
akoranga puta noa. Mahi whanui-
a kua kite matou i roto i te
rahinga o nga whakamatautau-
engari. Ko aua urunga katoa e
uru ana ki reira, me nga DHB i
Akarana. Kei te taapiri atu i
nga roopu pkoro- tetahi atu e
ono i tenei wiki- ano.
HIPKINITARAU: Hei taapiri atu
ki tera, ko te katoa he maha
nga utu kei konei. He 1,121 nga
waahi ka taea e koe te
whakamatautau puta noa i te
motu. 350 o te hunga kei roto i
te rohe metropolitan o Akarana.
Na he nui tonu te waatea o te
whakamatautau. Ko ta maatau
arotahi ki tenei wa ko te mahi
tahi me nga hapori kia puta Ka
whakamatauhia e nga tangata te
whakaatu i a raatau i te tohu

English: 
Auckland region.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Over here...
>> To follow up - the biggest
and busiest CBACs in South
Auckland were closed the week
before you asked them to test.
How do you expect them to ramp
up testing if they can't be
accessed easily?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: I think
we've shown over the last two
weeks that not only could we
ramp up the accessibility to
the testing with the
additional CBACs or community
testing centres, plus the
mobile teams, plus of course
through general practice - and
we saw that in the volume of
tests - but all those points
of access are still there, and
the DHBs in Auckland are
adding further mobile teams -
another six this week - as
well.
>>
CHRIS HIPKINS: To quickly add
to that, the overall numbers
are worth repeating here.
There are 1,121 places that
you can be tested across the
country. 350 of those are in
the Auckland metropolitan
area. So there are certainly
plenty of availability of
testing. Our focus at the
moment is on engaging with
communities to get people to
get tested if they're showing
symptoms. So, say yes to the
test - we keep repeating that

English: 
over and over again. We're
also looking at how we
increase our asymptomatic
testing in those areas where
we just want to increase our
testing numbers for the
purposes of reassurance. And
that's a big area of focus.
And we do have the ability -
as the week progresses - to
look at popping up new sites
where we need to, where we
want to see the numbers going
up.
>> With regards to - what's
the official stance on
overstays within our
community? Many of them are
hiding. On top of that, many
in the community are worried
about their jobs, and a
positive test would not
necessarily be good for some.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: I want to
make this absolutely clear -
the government will not be
using any information that we
collect through testing for
immigration purposes. So if
people are here on an expired
visa and they go and get a
test, we will not join those
two dots together. We have
taken that decision
deliberately because we do not
want anybody who is at risk
and who may potentially have
COVID to not get a test and

Maori: 
tohu. Na, mea atu ki te
whakamatautau- kei te whakahoki
tonu tatou i taua waa tonu. Kei
te titiro hoki matou me pehea e
whakanui ake ai o maatau
whakamatautau asymptoma i
roto i aua waahi e hiahia ana
taatau ki te whakarahi i ta
tatou whakamatautau nama mo nga
kaupapa o te whakaoranga. Ana
ko tera waahanga whakahirahira.
Ana kei a maatau te kaha- i te
mea e haere ana te wiki- kia
tiimata. I te whakatu i nga
waahi hou e tika ana kia
maatau, ta matou e hiahia ana
tirohia nga nama e piki ana. Mo
nga mea- he aha te tuunga mana
mo te nui o te waa i roto i to
tatou hapori? He maha nga mea
kei te peia. Kei runga rawa
atu, kei te awangawanga tonu te
maha o te hapori ko a raatau
mahi, a he whakamatautau pai
kaore e tika pai mo etahi.
HIPKIN
KRISITA: Kei te hiahia au kia
tino marama rawa tenei- ko te
kawanatanga e kore e whakamahi
i nga korero ka kohia e tatou
whakamtautau mo nga kaupapa
manene. Na, ki te mea kua tae
mai nga tangata kei runga i te
waa kua pau, ka haere, ka tiki
he whakamatautau, kaore e uru
ki nga waahanga e rua. Kua
tangohia e matou taua whakatau
na te mea kaore e hiahia ana

English: 
not come to our attention
because they're worried about
their immigration status. So,
absolutely - regardless of
your personal circumstances -
if you are asked to get a test
or you're in that group that's
at greater risk, please get
the test. We won't use that
information to punish you in
some other way. I cannot state
that enough.
>> Minister, you've said that
tomorrow you'll outline more
details about the wearing of
masks. What still needs to be
thrashed out? What needs to be
considered ahead of you
talking about those details?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: There's just
a few issues we're working
with the Ministry of
Education, for example, to
clarify exactly which groups
of school students would need
to wear masks. There is some
concern that, for very young
children, for example, it
might create more of a risk
than the benefits would... So
the risks would outweigh the
benefits, I should say. We're
working through those finer
details at the moment. But,
look - the broad expectation,
I think, is quite clear. By
and large, everyone should be
wearing a face covering when
they're on public transport.

Maori: 
matou. Ko wai te hunga e mate
ana ka mate pea ki te KOREUTU.
Kaua e whakawhiwhia ki te
whakamatautau kaore hoki i te
aro mai ki ta maatau na te m heo
raatau tuunga heke. Na, tino-
ahakoa he aha o ahuatanga.
Mn ka tonoa koe kia whai
whakamtautau, kei te haere
koe ranei i taua roo tera pea
te tupono atu, tn koa kia
pai te whakamatautau. E kore
matou e whakamahi i nga korero
hei whiua i a koe i etahi atu
huarahi. Kaore au e kaha ki te
kii i tena. Minita, kua kii koe
apopo ka whakaputaina etahi atu
korero mo te mau i te masks. He
aha tonu te hiahia ki te peia?
Me aha nga korero hei mua i a
koe e korero ana mo aua korero?
HISKOHANGA
HOKI: He ruarua noa nei nga
raru e mahi ana tatou Hei
tauira, ko te Manatu o te
Matauranga, te whakamarama tika
ko nga roopu o nga akonga kura
me whakakakahu i nga kanohi
kanohi. Kei te awangawanga tera
mo nga tamariki pakupaku. Hei
tauira, ka nui ake pea te
tupono ki te painga o te painga
... Na ko nga mate ka nui atu i
te painga, me kii atu e au. Kei
te mahi maatau i roto i nga
korero pai ake i tenei wa.
Engari, titiro- ko te tumanako
whanui, ki taku titiro, he
maarama tonu. Me rahi, me

Maori: 
kakahu te katoa ki te hipoki
mata i te wa ka eke ratou ki
runga waka tmatanui. I
whakahuahia e koe kia hiahia
ana kia mau ki nga mahi totika
whai whi ki te whakamatautau.
Kei a koe a Dr Bloomfield ranei
tetahi korero e whakaatu ana i
tera kaore ano kia rite ki nga
huarahi whakamatautau? He aha
nga tau e karapoti ana i te
aha? He aha nga awangawanga
huri noa i te taha? HIPKIN
TENEI: Kare- Ki taku whakaaro e
hiahia ana kia maarama kei te
mahi tahi tatou me nga hapori e
kei te tautuhia e maatau tetahi
arai ki te whakamatautau. Hei
painga, ki taku whakaaro ko
taatau i mohio ko te mea ke o
te whakamatautauranga kaore i
te arai. Kei te waatea te
whakamatautau. Na, ko tetahi o
nga arotahi uha e rere ana
tatou ki
tenei: "He aha e kore te iwi e
whakamatautauria? Kei kona ano
etahi atu arai kaore e pa ana
ki te taha tinana taea ki te
uru atu ki tetahi whakamatautau
e ahu whakamua ana? "Koinei te
mea kotahi ma te komiti ki te
titiro. ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: He korero whai ake
tonu- kei te titiro atu i a
maatau nama whakamatautau,
otira na te Iwi. He tika, ko

English: 
>> You mentioned wanting to
ensure that there was
equitable access to testing.
Do you or Dr Bloomfield have
any information that shows
that there is not equal access
to testing? What are the
figures around that? What are
the concerns around that?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No - I think
we want to make sure that
we're engaging with the
communities that we're
identifying any barriers to
testing. Basically, I think
what we've identified is that
the availability of testing
should not be the barrier.
Testing is widely available.
So, one of the equity lenses
we run over this is - "Why
aren't people getting tested?
Are there other barriers that
aren't related to physically
being able to access a test
that are getting in the way?"
That's one of the things that
the committee will be able to
look at.
>>
ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Just a
follow-up comment there - we
look at our testing rates,
particularly by ethnicity.
Reassuringly, our rate of
testing amongst Pacific is
actually twice the average

English: 
overall, and Maori rates are
also higher than the average
overall. So, that's exactly
what we would want to be
seeing - that there are -
particularly for this
outbreak, we know that those
are the communities that are
more affected than the
non-Maori, non-Pacific
community.
>> Do you have the workforce
in place to really be able to
engage really well with those
communities - Maori and
Pasifika in particular - up in
Auckland? Do you have the
workforce available to be able
to do that work?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: I believe
that there is. The advice I
have is that there is. Dr
Bloomfield is more familiar
with the detailed planning in
that regard.
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: The
question is - is the workforce
available to engage with those
communities? Yes.
>> ..within the workforce to
be able to work with the
communities?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Yes,
indeed. Especially in Counties
Manukau DHB, both those Maori
and Pasifika health providers
in those communities are very
well-established, and they're

Maori: 
taatau he whakamatautau i
waenga i te Moananui a Kiwa e
rua noa iho te tau toharite, me
nga reiti Maori he teitei ake
hoki i te toharite. Na, ko te
mea tena e hiahia ana matou kia
kite- i reira koe. Rawa mo
tenei putanga, e mohio ana
tatou na. Nga hapori e kaha ke
ana ki nga Tauiwi, hapori
kore-a-Kiwa. Kei a koe te waahi
mo te tino waahi kia taea. Kia
pai to taunga ki aua hapori-
Maori me Pasifika- i Akarana?
Kei a koe te kaimahi mahi kia
taea ai te mahi i tera mahi?
HIPKIN
KRIST: I whakapono ahau kei
reira. Ko te kupu tohutohu kei
a au ko te mea tera. Kua
matatau a Tuarua Bloomfield ki
te whakamahere taipitopito mo
tenei kaupapa. ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ko te patai- kei te
waatea te kaimahi kia uru atu
ki aua hapori? Ae. .. i waenga
i te hunga mahi kia taea ki te
mahi me nga hapori? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ae, mau. Ina koa i
nga Whenua Manukau DHB, nga
Maori me nga Ko nga

English: 
all part of the effort to get
out in the community. I'm
really confident in that. And
I know that the chief
executive of Counties Manukau
DHB, who's leading the
response for Coji Mapiapa,
engages every day with
Pasifika communities every day
to talk about what's going on,
get intelligence, and make
sure that the testing sites
are being deployed in the
right place, what are the
barriers, what are the issues,
what are any specific
communication channels they
can use...
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: We'll come
to Jess, then the other side
of the room.
>> Will schoolkids have to
wear masks on the school bus?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: That is one
of the things we're
clarifying. Yes, for certain
age cohorts. But there will
likely be an age cohort of
school-aged children that will
be exempt. That's exactly what
we're nailing down at the
moment.
>> Secondary/primary split?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Secondary
school students should be
wearing masks. We're figuring
out exactly where the cut-off

Maori: 
kaiwhakarato hauora Pasifika i
roto i aua hapori ko te
tino-whakapumautia, a ko ratou
katoa waahanga o te kaha ki te
haere i roto i te hapori. He
maia ahau i roto i taua. Na Kei
te mohio au kei te. Rangatira
Tuhinga o mua. Manukau DHB,
nana nei i arahi te whakautu mo
Coji Mapiapa, ka uru ki nga
hapori o Pasifika i ia ra r
ki te krero e p ana ki ng
mahi, whai mramatanga, me kia
mahara kei te whakahekehia nga
waahanga whakamatautau ki te
tika. Waahi, he aha nga arai,
he aha nga take, he aha tetahi
huarahi whakawhiti motuhake ka
taea e ratou te whakamahi ...
HAKAI
HOKI: Ka haere mai matou ki a
Jess, ka tera taha o te ruma.
Me kakahu nga kura kura ki te
papaa i runga i te pahi kura?
HIPKIN
TENEI: Koinei tetahi o nga mea
e whakamarama ana taatau. Ae,
mo etahi kaitoro tau. Engari
tera pea ko tetahi o nga
tamariki a nga tau-kura ka kore
e puta. Koina tonu taatau e
rere ana i te waa. Tuarua/
Tuarua tuatahi? HIPKIN
TENEI: Me mau nga akonga kura

Maori: 
tuarua ki te mau i te kanohi
kanohi. Kei te maarama taatau i
nga waahi o te tapahi. Koina
tetahi mea e mahi maatau ana
kia tiimata mai Kei te tika
tena. Kua kii a John Tahiri i
tenei ra ka taea e nga akonga
NCA ki te pa atu i tenei tau na
nga taumahatanga katoa i pa ki
a raatau. He mea e whakaarohia
ana e koe? HAKAI
KORE-KORE: Ehara, ehara i te
mea he pai te kawanatanga hei
whakaaro. Parau mau, mea
paruruhia tatou no te paruru e
te tiaturiraa o to tatou punaha
tohu. Kei te tirotirohia e
maatau etahi atu mea ka taea e
maatau ki te tautoko i nga
akong Kua whakahoutia e matou
nga ra o nga akonga. Takura e
tuku kura raumati mo te hunga
ka mutu he maha nga whiwhinga
poto, hei tauira. Kei te mahi
tahi tatou me ratou ki te tiro,
mehemea me huri i tera
whakanohohia he piriti mo nga
tangata ka mawehe atu. Kura
engari kaore i tino nui ki te
haere tonu ki te ako kei te
rapu ratou, ka kaha ake taatau
ki taua mahi? He maha atu
taatau mo taua korero. Engari e
kore au e whakaaro kia uru te
katoa ki tetahi ko a raatau
painga pai. I te mutunga, ka

English: 
is. That's something we're
working through to make sure
we get that exactly right.
>> John Tahiri has said today
NCA students should be able to
pass this year because of all
the stress they've gone
through. Is that something
you'll consider?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No, that's
not something the government's
willing to consider. Of
course, we have to protect the
integrity and credibility of
our qualifications system.
We're looking at what other
things we can do to support
students. We've pushed back
dates for students. Takura do
offer a summer school for
those who end up being a few
credits short, for example.
We're working with them to
look at, if we need to ramp
that up or provide a bridge
for people who might be
leaving school but haven't
quite got enough to go on to
further study they're looking
for, can we do more in that
yare ju? We'll have more to
say on that. But I don't think
giving everyone a free pass
would be in their best
interests. Ultimately, we
would be signing something to
say they can do things which

Maori: 
haina matou i tetahi mea hei
kii ma ratou e mahi kaore e
taea e raatau. Kaore au e
whakaaro hei painga mo ratou.
Dr Bloomfield, kei kona ano
tetahi whakaaro. Etahi momo
hihiri ki te whakahoki i te
hunga asymptomatic ki te
whakamatautau? Tetahi kroti?
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: He aha nga mea i
kite tatou- he tauira pai ko
Kuini Irirangi- kua roa ke ki
mua, engari he tika. He ruarua
nei te wiki kua pa he pak-ake
i roto i te waka waka o
hokomaha kei reira. Neke atu i
te 1 mano nga taangata i huri
ake hei whakamatau i te ra
kotahi. I whakamatauria, a, he
whakautu tera ki tetahi
waahanga o te tirotiro mo
tetahi o a maatau take- he
keehi kua tohua i haere mai
hoki ki tetahi atu whenua o
tawahi. No reira kaore au e kii
kei kona ano te koretake o nga
tangata ka hurihuri ki te
whakamatautau, ka tino tuturu
kua waatea, kei te mohio hoki
ratou mo taua mea. Na te
whakaputanga mai i inanahi, ka
mea koe he pa whakap whare,
engari inianei kei te
tirotirohia e raatau. Ka
whakamarama koe he aha te
tikanga o tena? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ko taku maarama
koinei tetahi o enei. Ropu e

English: 
they might not be able to do.
I don't think that will be in
their best interests.
>> Dr Bloomfield, is there any
consideration given to some
kind of incentive to get the
asymptomatic people to test?
Any carrot?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: What we
have seen - a good example is
Queenstown - it seems like a
long time ago, but just a few
weeks ago, a pop-up was put up
in the car park of a
supermarket there. Over 1,000
people turned up to be tested
in one day and were tested,
and that was in response to
part of an investigation for
one of our cases - a case that
had been identified who
arrived in another country
overseas. So I don't have any
sense that there will be a
lack of willingness of people
to turn up for testing, and
it's making sure that it's
available and that they know
about it.
>> With the contact from
yesterday, you said they were
a household contact, but now
they're under investigation.
You clarify what you mean by
that?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: My
understanding is they're one
of this group of five that are
associated with this new
church that I've talked about

English: 
today. So, previously -
yesterday, the information I
had was that they were felt to
be a household contact of
someone who had already been
linked to the outbreak, and
that was the case, so part
they're part of this group
that is under investigation.
>> Do they live with them?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: I don't
have any further details.
>> One of the things we've
been hearing from people is
concerns about getting tests
because of the move to
quarantine. But they're afraid
they might be pulled out of
their homes and moved into
quarantine. Are you concerned
about that at all? That people
are hesitant because of that?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: I
haven't heard, but it's
important to clarify what does
happen if someone gets tested
and there's a positive result.
That result is notified
directly from the laboratory
into the EpiSurv database with
the contact details for the
person. The Public Health Unit
then gets that result, makes
contact with the family, and
then a process is gone through
which is that interview
process. Sometimes over the
phone, sometimes face to face.
And the move into a quarantine
facility not something that

Maori: 
rima e hono ana ki tenei hahi
hou kei a au korero mo tenei
ra. Na, i mua- inanahi, ko nga
korero i a ahau, na raatau i
mahara ki te noho ki te whare o
te tangata kua pa. I honohia ki
te pakarutanga, koia tena te
mahi, na tetahi waahanga kei
roto i tenei roopu e pa ana ki
te tirotiro. Kei te noho tahi
ratou me ratau? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Kaore au e whiwhi i
etahi atu taipitopito. Ko
tetahi mea kua rongo i a tatou
mai i nga tangata ko nga
awangawanga e pa ana ki te tiki
whakamtautau na te neke o te
kuare. Engari kei te mataku kei
rukuhia mai ratou i o raatau
kaainga neke ki te taratahi Kei
te awangawanga koe ki tera? Kei
te feaa taua iwi ra mo tera?
ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Kaore au i rongo,
engari he mea nui kia
whakamramahia te aha ka puta
mena ka whakamatauria tetahi he
hua pai. Ka puta te korero mai
i te taiwhanga ki taua hua te
ptengi raraunga EpiSurv me
nga korero whakap mo te
tangata ra. Ka riro mai i te
Wahanga Hauora Hauora taua
otinga, ka whakaponohia atu. Te
whanau, a ka mutu ko tetahi
kaupapa e pa ana tukanga uiui.
I etahi wa ka pa ana ki te

Maori: 
waea, i te waa kanohi ki te
kanohi. Na ko te neke ki roto i
te whare taraiwa ehara i te mea
ka tupu tonu. Koinei te
waahanga o te tuatahi- ki te
rapu ko wai nga. Ptata piri
te, kia mau te whnau, whi
mahi me te ko etahi atu o nga
hononga tata ka noho wehe, ka
taea te whakamatau. Ana hoki
kei reira nga korerorero ko wai
pea me uru atu ki roto. Te
whare taraiwa, me te waa e pa
ana ki te mahi i tera. Kaore he-
ohorere, ka tae mai tetahi van
ki te whare o tetahi atu ka
poipoia te tangata. Ehara tera
i te pehea o te mahi. A ka taea
e au te whakamana i te iwi- kei
te whakaaro au he aha te korero
pai. Kite tatou i te tini o nga
tangata kua pa ki te whare maru
me nga mema o te whanau- Ko
taku whakaaro katoa ko te
urupare i a au ko te mea he pai
te manaaki i a raatau. H
HKOHANGA
HORIKI: Brendan? Ka ruarua noa
iho te tangi, engari i runga i
nga awangawanga ra, tangata e
ki ana, "Ka ahatia taku kuri?
Kaore au e hiahia ki te
whakamatau na taku taera.
"Pehea te tangata- taku kuri.

English: 
happens immediately. That's
part of the first priority -
to find out who the close
contacts are, make sure that
family, workplace and other
close contacts are isolated
and that they're able to be
tested. And then there's the
discussion around who may need
to go into the quarantine
facility, and the timing about
doing that. There's no -
suddenly, a van arrives at
someone's house and carts
people off. That is not how
the process works. And I can
reassure people - I think what
is reassuring as we see the
large number of people who
have gone into the quarantine
facility with whanau members
as well - I think all the
feedback I've had is that
that's serving them very well.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Brendan?
>> It might sound silly, but
in terms of those concerns,
people are saying, "What will
happen to my dog? I don't want
to get tested because of my
cog." How men -- my dog." How
many days to do people have?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: These
are exactly the issues the

Maori: 
"E hia nga ra ki te iwi? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Koinei tonu nga
take o te roopu. Ka mahi tahi
me nga tangata, tae atu ki o
raatau mahi me te mahi tino
mohio kua tutuki nga matea
putea me nga matea oranga. Ko
etahi o ratau kei a ratau etahi
atu o te whanau kaore i te
whare hoap e kawenga ana kia
tiaki, tiaki ranei. Kua kiia
enei mea katoa. Ae, ka taea e
au te hono atu ki te take e pa
ana ki nga moemoe. Koina tonu
tetahi o nga mea e mahi ana te
roopu me ia taha kei runga.
HIPKIN
TUARUA: Te wa tuarua ka
waimarie ... Minita, kua tuhi
koe ki nga tru DHB e korero
ana ki a ratou. Ranei te arahi
i a raatau ki te whakaheke moni
i a raatau tahua hei whakaiti
pai to ratou whakapaunga?
HIPKIN
TENEI: Kare, kaore au i
tuhituhi ki a ratou. Kua tutaki
ahau ki a ratou. Kaore i tino
pai te mahi i tera wiki, engari
i te. Iti rawa ia wiki e rua, e
tutaki ana ahau ki a raatau
katoa ma te waea korero. Ae,
kua whakatakotoria e ahau
tetahi tumanako ka hiahia tatou
ki te kite i nga DHB e hoki ki o
etahi o nga DHB, ka maama ake
ake i era atu. Ko etahi o
ratou, he iti atu te waa i
etahi atu. Na kei te mahi matou

English: 
team works with people on,
including their employment and
making sure their income needs
and welfare needs are met.
Some of them may have other
family members that are not
household contacts who they
are responsible for or look
after. All these things are
taken into account. Yes, I can
relate to the issue around
pets. That is exactly one of
the things that the team works
with each family on.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Second time
lucky...
>> Minister, have you written
to DHB chairs telling them or
directing them to balance
their budgets to effectively
reduce their spending?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No, I
haven't written to them. I
have been meeting with them.
It hasn't quite worked out
exactly weekly, but at least
every couple of weeks, I meet
with them all via
teleconference. Yes, I have
set out an expectation that we
want to see DHBs getting back
into the black. Some of the
DHBs, that will be easier for
than others. Some of them, it
will take them a bit longer
than others. So we are working
with each DHB as needed on a
DHB-by-DHB basis.
>> Would it concern you that

English: 
some DHBs will therefore go
out and cut hundreds of staff?
There's reports from cant that
they're going to cut 600
staff.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: DHBs go
through a planning process,
and the ultimate outcome of
that planning process has to
be signed off by me as the
minister. Those are all things
that we work through with DHBs
during that planning process.
>> Is now the time to be
cutting staff and cutting
spending in Health?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Look, DHBs
still need to be responsible
financial managers. They still
need to balance their books.
And some DHBs are doing a
better job of that than
others. It shouldn't -
basically, we should not be
rewarding those DHBs that
consistently go over budget
and punishing those who
consistently stay within their
budgets. So everybody needs to
be treated fairly. DHBs can't
just make a decision - "We
want to offer extra services
to our community that we're
not funded for, so we'll
operate a deficit to do that."
Ultimately, the taxpayer has
to pay for that. And there is

Maori: 
me ia DHB mehemea e hiahiatia
ana i runga i te kaupapa
DHB-by-D Kei te maangai koe
kei kona etahi DHB haere atu ka
hatepea atu nga rau kaimahi? He
ripoata mai i tenei kaore e
kohia e nga kaimahi 600. HIPKIN
KRIS: Ka haere a DHB ki te
whakamaherehere, a ko te
mutunga o tera whakaritenga
whakamahere ko I hainatia e au
hei minita. Ko nga mea katoa ka
mahi maatau me nga DHB i te waa
te huringa whakamahere. Kua
riro te waa inaianei ki te
tarai i nga kaimahi me te tarai
i te whakapaunga moni HIPKIN
KORENEI: Titiro, me noho tonu
nga DHB ki nga kawenga putea
kaiwhakahaere. Engari me
whangai tonu a raatau pukapuka.
Na etahi mahi DHB kei te pai
ake te mahi i tera atu. Kare e
tika- na te mea, kaua tatou e
pai ki te utu i aua DHB kei te
haere tonu te whiwhinga tahua
me te whiua i te hunga e noho
tonu ana ki roto i a raatau
tahua. No reira me tino tika te
atawhai. Kaore e taea noa e te
DHB te whakatau- "E hiahia ana
matou ki te tuku taapiri
ratonga ki to taatau hapori
kaore matou i te putea putea,
na ka mahia e matou he hapa ki
te mahi i tena. "I te mutunga,

English: 
a limited health dollar to go
around. By some DHBs clocking
up large deficits, they're
effectively punishing the
parts of the population where
the DHBs are not doing that.
>> I just mean that the
government is not providing
enough funding, maybe it
underestimated the population
growth or...
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No, that's
absolutely not correct. In
many cases, the DHBs that are
running large deficits have
also seen large increases in
funding. The government has
been putting significant
increases in funding into
DHBs, but they still need to
balance their books.
>> How many cases have not
been linked to the current
cluster via either
epidemiology or genome
sequencing? There's five from
the church, the one man who
showed up in hospital. Are
there any others?
>> ASHLEY BLOOMFIELD: Yes, the
other person who had
previously been in an Miff
facility. Those are the only
ones that hadn't been linked
or we consider are associated
with the cluster. Then of
course there is the one
separate case, the MIF worker,
which we have shown through
genome sequencing as

Maori: 
me utu e te taake te utu mo
tera. A he iti noa te taara
hauora e toro atu ai. Na etahi
o nga DHB e karaka ana i nga
hapa nui, ka tino whiua ratau
nga waahanga o te taupori kei
reira nga DHB kaore e mahi ana.
Ko taku ki noa kaore te
kwanatanga i te kohi moni,
tera pea i whakaitihia te tipu
o te taupori ... HIPKINITARAU
KORE: Kare, kaore rawa i te
tika. I runga i te maha o nga
keehi, ko nga DHB nga kei te
whakahaere whara nui kua kite
hoki i nga piki o te utu putea.
Kua whakawhiwhia e te
kawanatanga he nui ake o te
tahua putea ki nga DHB, engari
kei te toha tonu o raatau
pukapuka. E hia nga keehi kaore
i hono ki te. He puawai hou o
tenei ma te wahanga mo te mate
urutai ranei, te whakangao ira?
Tokorima mai i te whare
karakia, ko te tangata kotahi i
puta ki te hhipera. Kei reira
etahi atu? ASHLEY
BLOOMFIELD: Ae, ko tetahi atu
tangata. I mua i a ia i tetahi
whare Miff. Koinei anake nga
mea kaore i hono atu ranei i to
maatau whakaaro ka honohono ki

Maori: 
te tautau. Na ko te akoranga ko
te keehi kotahi, te MIF
kaimahi, ta matou i whakaatu ma
te raupapa genome kaore he
hononga. He ripoata ki nga mahi
hauora hinengaro. E rua o era i
takahi i te huihuinga a te UN
ki te whakamamae me te
maimoatanga. I te mea ko te
Minita Hauora, he pai tena?
KAUPAPA
HORIKI: Kare, kaore. Kua
whakapau kaha te kawanatanga ki
te hauora hinengaro. Ko tetahi
o nga ripoata kua tukuna mai e
DHB ki a maatau ko te kaupapa
heinga- me te waahi-peita ka
tae mai ki te hauora hinengaro.
Ko etahi o nga mea kino e kitea
ana e tatou i reira Ko nga DHB
kaore noa i te waahi e
hiahiatia ana. Na kua tukuna e
te kawanatanga he nui taapiri
atu. Tahua moni mo nga tau kua
hipa ake nei, ara ake. Te
whakapau i a tatou e korero
ana, kia pai ake ai te kounga o
aua hinengaro whakaurunga
hauora. Ko enei mea he taonga
tuku iho ki a raatau. Na e kore
e taea e koe noa te peita i nga
whare hou mo te po. He wa roa
ki te hanga i a raatau. Engari
e tino mohio ana ko etahi o nga
nga waahanga e mahi ana te DHB
ki nga waahanga hauora
hinengaro kaore i te pai mo te
kaupapa. He ruarua rawa hoki.

English: 
unrelated.
>> There's a report into
mental health facilities
finding two of those were in
breach of the UN convention
against torture and treatment.
As Health Minister, is that
good enough?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: No, it's
not. The government has put a
huge emphasis on mental
health. One of the issues DHBs
are reporting to us is that
they are capacity- and
space-constrained when it
comes to mental health. Some
of the worst things we are
seeing there are because DHBs
just don't have the space that
they need. So the government
has put a significant amount
of additional capital funding
in over the last couple of
years, and that is being spent
as we speak, to improve the
quality of those mental health
facilities. These things do
have a bit of a legacy to
them. So you can't just magic
up new buildings overnight. It
takes a while to build them.
But we absolutely acknowledge
that some of the facilities
that DHBs are working with in
the mental health space are
not fit for purpose. They are
inadequate. They are resulting
in a standard of care for
people with mental health

English: 
needs that is not acceptable.
>> Were you shocked with that
report?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Look, I
haven't had a chance to read
the report fully. It only came
out yesterday. I certainly
will be reading that and
following it closely. We were
aware, as a government, that
there are issues in this area.
We've been working very hard
to address those, including
significant investments to
improve the quality of mental
health facilities at our DHBs.
>> Regarding the Day 3 test -
the fact that you don't have
the number of people who
refused - how can you - if you
don't have that data, how can
be sure that those testing are
being done?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: If you look
at the overall number of tests
being taken at Day 3 versus
the number taken at Day 12,
and then you - we identify the
fact that we've only had 15
people refusing Day 12 tests,
you can do a process of maths
to identify that the vast
majority of people are getting
Day 3 tests. But as I said, we
don't routinely test children
at Day 3 unless there's a good
reason to do so. And that will

Maori: 
Kei te puta mai he hua tiaki mo
nga tangata whai hiahia hauora
hinengaro kaore e manakohia. I
tino ohorere koe ki taua panui?
HIPKIN
KRISITA: Titiro, kaore au i
whai waahi ki te panui i te
purongo katoa. Anake i puta
ianahi inanahi. Akuanei me
panui e au me te whai i nga mea
katoa. I maarama maatau, he
kawanatanga, he kaupapa kei
roto tenei waahi. I kaha taatau
mahi ki te whakatutuki i era,
tae atu ki te mea nui. Haumi ki
whakapai ake i te kounga o te
hinengaro hauora whakaurunga
kei a maatau DHB. Mo te
whakamatautau 3- te meka kaore
koe. Maha o nga tangata i
whakakahore- me pehea koe- ki
te kore koe taua raraunga, me
pehea e mohio ai kei te mahia
enei whakamatautau? HIKI
KOREUTU: Mena ka tirohia e koe
te maha o nga. Nga
whakamatautau kua tangohia i te
Ra 3 ma te nama i tangohia i te
Ra. 12, na, ko koe- e tautuhi
ana i nga korero noa i a maatau.
15 te hunga e whakahawea ana ki
nga whakamatautau 12 Day, ka
taea e koe te mahi pngarau
hei tohatoha ko te nuinga te
nuinga whiwhi whakamtautau
Day 3. Engari i taku kii, kaua
maatau e whakamatau i nga

English: 
almost certainly explain some
of the vast majority of the
differential. You know, I am
not concerned about the level
of Day 3 testing. The reason
I'm not concerned about it is
that people don't get let out
without either a negative day
12 test or a prolonged stay in
managed isolation, which means
that they are absolutely
COVID-free and guaranteed to
be COVID-free by the time they
leave.
>> The modelling that's been
relied on is pretty catered on
Day 3 and Day 12s being done,
right?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes. One of
the things to keep in mind -
if somebody - we look for 10
days, in MIQ, for somebody who
has a positive test from when
they are tested positive. If
somebody doesn't do a Day 3
test and they then test
positive on Day 12, by that
time they may well be on the
way to recovery. It will
ultimately extend out the time
they are in managed isolation
versus if they'd had the
positive test on Day 3. It's
actually quite a big incentive
on people to have that Day 3

Maori: 
tamariki i te ra 3 ki te kahore
he take pai hei whakarite i
era. Na ka tata te whakamarama
i etahi o te whanui Tuhinga o
mua. E mohio ana koe, Kaore au
i te aro ki te taumata o te
whakamatautau a Day 3. Ko te
take kaore au e awangawanga ana
mo tena kaore ko te taangata.
Kia puta me te kore o te ra
kino whakamatautau 12 ranei. Te
noho roa ki te wehenga
whakahaere, ko te tikanga tenei
he tino COVID-kore me te
taurangi kia COVID-kore e te
w e whakarere ai ratou. Ko te
tauira e whakawhirinaki ana ki
te tino pai te whakatutuki i te
Ra 3 me te Ra 12 nga mahi, e
tika? HIPKIN
KRISITA: Ae. Ko tetahi mea e
maumahara ana- mena he tangata-
ka rapu tatou. 10 ra, i MIQ, mo
tetahi taangata kua pai te
whakamatautau ina
whakamatautauhia. Mena kaore
tetahi e mahi i te Ra 3
Whakamatau ratou. Katahi ka pai
te whakamatautau i te Ra 12, ma
taua waa ka eke ai ratau te ara
ki te ora. Ma te mutunga ka
hora ake i te waa e
whakahaerehia ana he wehenga ki
te whakapae mehemea kua pai te
whakamatautau i te ra 3. Na te

Maori: 
mea tino nui te akiaki i nga
tangata kia whai i tera Ra 3
whakamatautau. Mena he
whakamatautau pai i te Ra 3 me
te pai o te ra 12 te whai kiko
mo te roa o te whakapau moni ki
te whakahaere wehenga. Na, ka
hoki mai ki te tupono ki te iwi
katoa, ko te tino kounga o te
kounga. Na matou- ko te tino
taurangi e kii ana te tangata,
kaore nga taangata ka mahue a
MIQ me COVID-19- ko tena Ra 12.
Ki te whakamatautau tetahi i te
ra 12, na reira tino puritia mo
te waa e hiahia ana maatau ki
te pupuri i a raatau hei
whakapumau kaore ratau e kawe
COVID-19 ki te hapori. Dr
Bloomfield, he aha te ahunga
whakamua kua puta mo nga
hononga titiro mo te taangata
kei te Tai Tokerau Shore? Kei
te maataki noa ahau kei te
paahitia ano koe mo taua keehi.
I runga i te whakap-whakapapa.
Te taha o nga mea katoa, ko nga
hoapata katoa e tino kitea ana.
Ka whakamatautauhia, kaore hoki
tetahi o te whanau, te kaainga
mahi ranei e pa ana kua hoki
mai o raatau whakamatautau pai,

English: 
test. If they test positive on
Day 3 and positive on Day 12,
it will have an implication
for how long they spend in
managed isolation. So, coming
back to the risk to the
public, the real quality
assurance for us - the real
guarantee people have, that
people aren't leaving MIQ with
COVID-19 - is that Day 12. If
anyone tests positive at Day
12, then they are absolutely
held for as long as we need to
hold them to guarantee that
they don't bring COVID-19 into
the community.
>> Dr Bloomfield, what
progress has been made in
terms of contact tracing for
the man in North Shore
Hospital? I'm just wondering
how concerned you still are
about that case.
>> On the contact-tracing side
of things, all the close
contacts were identified very
quickly and tested, and none
of the family or workplace
contacts have returned
positive tests, so they've all
tested negative. They remain
in isolation for the full 14

English: 
days. I know that the Public
Health Unit is going right
back to have a look and see
where this person may have
been infected, and in fact
they are now looking at a
private event at which a
number of people were at very
early on in August, so they're
going right back to see if
that might be - it's right at
the boundary of possibility,
but I think they're doing a
very thorough job. They have a
list of all the people who
were there, and they are being
followed up as well. They're
leaving no stone unturned.
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: One last
question. I do have to answer
questions in the House very
shortly. Lucky last.
>> There are other people in
managed isolation facilities,
residents and staff, who could
be infected in the period of
time between a Day 3 and Day
12 test. The woman who came
from the United States who
tested positive on Day 3 but
still managed to infect a
hotel worker via a surface or
elevator. What if she'd been
there for another nine days?
>> CHRIS HIPKINS: Anyone
showing symptoms gets tested
as soon as they show symptoms,
regardless of where they are

Maori: 
na reira i whakamatauhia e
ratau te kino. Ka noho mokemoke
noa ratou mo nga ra 14. Kei te
mohio au kei te hoki ano te
Public Health Unit. Tirohia,
tirohia te waahi i pangia ai
tenei tangata, i roto i te
meka, kei te titiro ratou
inaianei ki tetahi kaupapa
motuhake i reira. He maha nga
iwi i te timatanga wawe o
Akuhata, na e hoki ana ratau ki
te tirotiro mehemea he peera
tena- kei tika ki te rohe o te
taea, engari ki taku whakaaro
kei a raatau mahi i te tino
mahi. He raarangi kei a raatau
nga tangata katoa i reira, a ko
ratou Kei te whaia ano hoki. E
kore e waihohia e ratou te
kohatu kaore i whakauruhia.
CHRIS
HIPKINS: Kotahi te patai
whakamutunga. He poto taku
whakahoki ki nga patai i roto i
te Whare. Te waimarie. He maha
ano nga taangata kei roto i nga
whakaurunga kee, nga kainoho me
nga kaimahi, ko wai pea ka
pangia i roto i te waa i waenga
i te whakamatautau Day 3 me te
Day 12. Ko te wahine i haere
mai i te United States nga
whakamatautau. He pai te ra 3
engari ka whakahaere tonu i te
mate hotera na runga i te
huringa hiko ranei Ka ahatia
mena ka iwa nga ra e noho ana
ia ki reira? HARAU
HORIKI: Ko nga tangata e
whakaatu ana i nga tohu ka

Maori: 
whakamatauria. Tae atu ki te
whakaatu i nga tohu, ahakoa he
aha te waahi e mau ana huringa
whakamatautau. Ko nga kaimahi e
mahi ana i te wehenga
whakahaere e kaha ana ki te
tiaki. Koina te take kei a
maatau te whakahaere.
Whakaurunga whakaurunga- ki
etahi kia whakapumautia te
tangata ka uru atu ratau te
whakap me te mea kua
whakaritea he waahi. Mena, he
whakamuri taapuri mo aua
kaimahi. Ki te whakarite i te
tangata kua pangia e te
COVID-19, he mea kohia. Kia
ora, e te katoa. Kei te koa
ahau ki te tiki ano i tenei waa
ka huri au ki konei. Me
whakarite e ahau mo te waa
patai. Kia akameitakiia kotou.
Mauruuru no te whakamahi i te
Red Bee Te Ppho.

English: 
in the testing cycle. Staff
working in managed isolation
take protective measures.
That's the reason we have them
in managed isolation
facilities - to some ensure
anyone they come in contact
with has measures in place. Of
course, we have backstop
testing for those staff to
ensure anyone who does become
infected with COVID-19, that
is picked up. Thanks,
everybody. I'm happy to pick
that up again next time I'm up
here. I have to get ready for
question time. Thank you.
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