>>> THE IRANIAN GENERAL
>>> THE IRANIAN GENERAL REPLACING THE NOW DECEASED
REPLACING THE NOW DECEASED SOLEIMANI IS VOWING TO AVENGE
SOLEIMANI IS VOWING TO AVENGE HIS DEATH.
HIS DEATH. ON SUNDAY, OUR SECRETARY OF
ON SUNDAY, OUR SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ASKED
STATE MIKE POMPEO WAS ASKED ABOUT RETALIATION FROM IRAN.
ABOUT RETALIATION FROM IRAN. HERE’S WHAT HE TOLD CHUCK TODD.
HERE’S WHAT HE TOLD CHUCK TODD. >> IT MAY BE THERE’S A LITTLE
>> IT MAY BE THERE’S A LITTLE NOISE IN THE INTERMINT THAT THE
NOISE IN THE INTERMINT THAT THE IRANIANS MAKE THE CHOICE TO
IRANIANS MAKE THE CHOICE TO RESPOND.
RESPOND. I HOPE THAT THEY DON’T.
I HOPE THAT THEY DON’T. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE CLEAR
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE CLEAR WHAT WE WILL DO IF THEY DO, THAT
WHAT WE WILL DO IF THEY DO, THAT OUR RESPONSE WILL BE DECISIVE
OUR RESPONSE WILL BE DECISIVE AND VIGOROUS JUST AS IT HAS BEEN
AND VIGOROUS JUST AS IT HAS BEEN SO FAR.
SO FAR. >> THERE IS ALSO GROWING CONCERN
>> THERE IS ALSO GROWING CONCERN OVER POSSIBLE IRAN CYBERATTACKS
OVER POSSIBLE IRAN CYBERATTACKS AND IN PART BECAUSE THEY’RE GOOD
AND IN PART BECAUSE THEY’RE GOOD AT IT.
AT IT. THE CHIEF OF CYBER SECURITY AT
THE CHIEF OF CYBER SECURITY AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WARNED AMERICANS TODAY
SECURITY WARNED AMERICANS TODAY TO BRUSH UP ON IRANIAN HACKING
TO BRUSH UP ON IRANIAN HACKING TECHNIQUES.
TECHNIQUES. "THE WASHINGTON POST"
"THE WASHINGTON POST" UNDERSCORED THAT THE IRANIANS
UNDERSCORED THAT THE IRANIANS HAVE VERY CAPABLE HACKERS AT
HAVE VERY CAPABLE HACKERS AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
THEIR DISPOSAL. THEY REPORT SOLEIMANI’S DEATH AT
THEY REPORT SOLEIMANI’S DEATH AT THE HANDS OF THE U.S., QUOTE,
THE HANDS OF THE U.S., QUOTE, THREATENS TO UNLEASH A FULLY
THREATENS TO UNLEASH A FULLY UNSHACKLED IRANIAN RESPONSE.
UNSHACKLED IRANIAN RESPONSE. ANALYSTS AND FORMER U.S.
ANALYSTS AND FORMER U.S. OFFICIALS WARNED.
OFFICIALS WARNED. THEY SAID A VARIETY OF POTENTIAL
THEY SAID A VARIETY OF POTENTIAL CYBERATTACKS POSSIBLY IN
CYBERATTACKS POSSIBLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH MORE
CONJUNCTION WITH MORE TRADITIONAL FORMS OF LETHAL
TRADITIONAL FORMS OF LETHAL ACTION WOULD BE WELL WITHIN THE
ACTION WOULD BE WELL WITHIN THE DIGITAL ARSENAL.
DIGITAL ARSENAL. BACK WITH US AGAIN TONIGHT, TWO
BACK WITH US AGAIN TONIGHT, TWO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT GUESTS.
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT GUESTS. RETIRED FOUR-STAR U.S. ARMY
RETIRED FOUR-STAR U.S. ARMY GENERAL BARRY McCAFFREY, A
GENERAL BARRY McCAFFREY, A DECORATED COMBAT VETERAN OF
DECORATED COMBAT VETERAN OF VIETNAM AND NOTABLY A FORMER
VIETNAM AND NOTABLY A FORMER BATTLEFIELD COMMANDER IN THE
BATTLEFIELD COMMANDER IN THE PERSIAN GULF.
PERSIAN GULF. AND FRANK FIGLIUZZI, FORMER FBI
AND FRANK FIGLIUZZI, FORMER FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR
ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR COUNTERINTELLIGENCE.
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH, GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO YOU BOTH, GENTLEMEN. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU. GENERAL, I’D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH
GENERAL, I’D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH YOU.
YOU. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT A COUNTRY LIKE IRAQ, WHICH UNDER
A COUNTRY LIKE IRAQ, WHICH UNDER THE YOU BREAK IT, YOU BUY IT
THE YOU BREAK IT, YOU BUY IT POLICY, WE BROKE AND WE BOUGHT,
POLICY, WE BROKE AND WE BOUGHT, AND NOW WHEN YOU HEAR WE ARE
AND NOW WHEN YOU HEAR WE ARE WORKING UP SANCTIONS AGAINST
WORKING UP SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAQ, HOW DO YOU RESPOND?
IRAQ, HOW DO YOU RESPOND? >> WITH DISBELIEF.
>> WITH DISBELIEF. YOU KNOW, WE’RE IN A BIZARRE
YOU KNOW, WE’RE IN A BIZARRE WORLD.
WORLD. THE INTERVIEW WITH TRUMP AND
THE INTERVIEW WITH TRUMP AND SOME OF HIS CLOSEST ASSOCIATES
SOME OF HIS CLOSEST ASSOCIATES IN WHICH HE BASICALLY IN A FIT
IN WHICH HE BASICALLY IN A FIT OF BLUSTER TALKED ABOUT REFUSING
OF BLUSTER TALKED ABOUT REFUSING TO LEAVE IRAQ IF THEY TOLD US TO
TO LEAVE IRAQ IF THEY TOLD US TO GO UNTIL THEY PAID FOR THE AIR
GO UNTIL THEY PAID FOR THE AIR FORCE BASE.
FORCE BASE. WE TALKED ABOUT HITTING 52
WE TALKED ABOUT HITTING 52 TARGETS, ONE FOR EACH HOSTAGE.
TARGETS, ONE FOR EACH HOSTAGE. THIS KIND OF STUFF BEING
THIS KIND OF STUFF BEING MANUFACTURED INSIDE A SMALL
MANUFACTURED INSIDE A SMALL GROUP IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THIS
GROUP IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THIS NEVER CAME OUT OF THE JCS.
NEVER CAME OUT OF THE JCS. A LOT OF IT’S ILLEGAL.
A LOT OF IT’S ILLEGAL. MOST OF IT’S STUPID.
MOST OF IT’S STUPID. IT’S EMBARRASSING FOR THE
IT’S EMBARRASSING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE SAYING IT.
TO BE SAYING IT. LOOK, HITTING SOLEIMANI, A
LOOK, HITTING SOLEIMANI, A LEGITIMATE TARGET, WAS AN OPTION
LEGITIMATE TARGET, WAS AN OPTION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXAMINED.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EXAMINED. HE’S BEEN LEADING AN ATTACK ON
HE’S BEEN LEADING AN ATTACK ON U.S. FORCES AND KILLED TENS OF
U.S. FORCES AND KILLED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
MIDDLE EAST. THE PROBLEM WAS WHEN YOU ANALYZE
THE PROBLEM WAS WHEN YOU ANALYZE IT FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES AND YOU
IT FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES AND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, WE’RE GOING TO
SAY, YOU KNOW, WE’RE GOING TO KILL THIS GUY AT THE BAGHDAD
KILL THIS GUY AT THE BAGHDAD AIRPORT ALONG WITH A SHIITE
AIRPORT ALONG WITH A SHIITE SENIOR LEADER, THE PRESIDENT IS
SENIOR LEADER, THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE
GOING TO IMMEDIATELY TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT,
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT, PROUDLY TWEETING OUT AN AMERICAN
PROUDLY TWEETING OUT AN AMERICAN FLAG.
FLAG. WHAT DID HE THINK WAS GOING TO
WHAT DID HE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?
HAPPEN? WE RESTARTED THE NUKE PROGRAM IN
WE RESTARTED THE NUKE PROGRAM IN IRAN.
IRAN. WE SOLIDIFIED THEIR IRANIAN
WE SOLIDIFIED THEIR IRANIAN LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP. WE DESTABILIZED IRAQ.
WE DESTABILIZED IRAQ. THIS WAS AN ILL THOUGHT OUT,
THIS WAS AN ILL THOUGHT OUT, IMPULSIVE, AND STUPID MOVE.
IMPULSIVE, AND STUPID MOVE. >> AND YET, FRANK FIGLIUZZI, OUR
>> AND YET, FRANK FIGLIUZZI, OUR PRESIDENT AND OUR SECRETARY OF
PRESIDENT AND OUR SECRETARY OF STATE SAY WE ARE SAFER BECAUSE
STATE SAY WE ARE SAFER BECAUSE OF IT.
OF IT. WHAT DO YOU SAY?
WHAT DO YOU SAY? >> WELL, I SAY I THINK WE’RE AT
>> WELL, I SAY I THINK WE’RE AT GREATER RISK RIGHT NOW, AND
GREATER RISK RIGHT NOW, AND HERE’S THE THING.
HERE’S THE THING. WE DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE
WE DON’T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE RISK.
RISK. THE PRESIDENT, THROUGH HIS
THE PRESIDENT, THROUGH HIS TWEETS AND STATEMENTS, SEEMS
TWEETS AND STATEMENTS, SEEMS ALMOST SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON
ALMOST SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON CONVENTIONAL, TRADITIONAL
CONVENTIONAL, TRADITIONAL WARFARE.
WARFARE. HE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE
HE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MISSILES, THE NUMBER
NUMBER OF MISSILES, THE NUMBER OF MISSILE SITES HE HAS IN HIS
OF MISSILE SITES HE HAS IN HIS MIND.
MIND. BUT THERE’S A NEW BATTLEFIELD
BUT THERE’S A NEW BATTLEFIELD OUT THERE, AND IRAN HAS, OVER
OUT THERE, AND IRAN HAS, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, GIVEN US
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, GIVEN US A SNEAK PREVIEW OF WHAT THEY’RE
A SNEAK PREVIEW OF WHAT THEY’RE CAPABLE OF DOING ON THE NEW
CAPABLE OF DOING ON THE NEW BATTLEFIELD.
BATTLEFIELD. THAT NEW BATTLEFIELD IS CYBER,
THAT NEW BATTLEFIELD IS CYBER, AND, LOOK, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
AND, LOOK, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE’VE SEEN THINGS LIKE
YEARS, WE’VE SEEN THINGS LIKE THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT TAKING
THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT TAKING OVER THE COMMAND AND CONTROL
OVER THE COMMAND AND CONTROL SYSTEM FOR A DAM IN NEW YORK
SYSTEM FOR A DAM IN NEW YORK STATE.
STATE. WE’VE SEEN THEM HIT FINANCE AND
WE’VE SEEN THEM HIT FINANCE AND BANKING.
BANKING. WE’VE SEEN THEM ALL OVER OUR
WE’VE SEEN THEM ALL OVER OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
SOCIAL MEDIA. TALK TO FOLKS AT FACEBOOK,
TALK TO FOLKS AT FACEBOOK, TWITTER, LINKEDIN.
TWITTER, LINKEDIN. THEY’LL ALL TELL YOU THEY’VE HAD
THEY’LL ALL TELL YOU THEY’VE HAD TO REMOVE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT
TO REMOVE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS AND OPERATIONS FROM
ACCOUNTS AND OPERATIONS FROM THEIR PLATFORMS.
THEIR PLATFORMS. SO ARE WE ABOUT TO SEE KIND OF
SO ARE WE ABOUT TO SEE KIND OF THE NEW FACE OF WARFARE THAT WE
THE NEW FACE OF WARFARE THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE READY FOR AND
MAY OR MAY NOT BE READY FOR AND WE MAY NOT HAVE PLANS IN PLACE
WE MAY NOT HAVE PLANS IN PLACE TO UNDERSTAND AN EQUAL AND
TO UNDERSTAND AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION TO WHATEVER
OPPOSITE REACTION TO WHATEVER THEY DO.
THEY DO. BUT OUR DAILY LIVES ARE
BUT OUR DAILY LIVES ARE CONTROLLED BY DIGITALIZED,
CONTROLLED BY DIGITALIZED, AUTOMATED, ELECTRONIC
AUTOMATED, ELECTRONIC TRANSACTIONS.
TRANSACTIONS. WHETHER YOU’RE HITTING AN ATM,
WHETHER YOU’RE HITTING AN ATM, YOU’RE PUMPING GAS AT THE GAS
YOU’RE PUMPING GAS AT THE GAS STATION, YOU’RE USING YOUR GPS
STATION, YOU’RE USING YOUR GPS OR YOU’RE STOPPING AT A TRAFFIC
OR YOU’RE STOPPING AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, YOU’RE DEPENDENT HIGHLY
LIGHT, YOU’RE DEPENDENT HIGHLY ON COMPUTERS AND CYBER.
