Hey there! It's Olivia from Olivia's
Catastrophe and today I'm here to do my
second read it backwards video where we
will be reading
Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer. This is the
third book
in the twilight saga. And I'll be reading
it second because I'm doing read it
backwards here. So if you don't know what
read it backwards is I advise you to
click on the link up there or in the
description box down below so that you
can
hear what I am doing here, exactly. And as
well as that when I mention this series
in my videos I will also be
leaving a link where you can donate to
the tribe that is featured in this
series
because they are misrepresented in this
series and I would rather
that we acknowledge that it's
problematic representation
and we donate it to them rather than
anything else. I will be donating every
time I mention the twilight saga in my
videos
and I just wanted to make sure that was
clea. Also you've been warned this video
contains
spoilers.
I've made a tabbing system like I did in
my previous video.
Jasper mentions being green. Jasper gets
his own tab because he's the best Cullen
and the best
character in this whole series. Pink for
being anything that's romantic
and memorable that I would like to
actually remember. But I don't remember
any scenes in this in particular that
actually make me want to remember this. Yellow is going to be any love
triangle shenanigans. In my head this is the love triangle
book of all love triangles. Like, this
puts every other love triangle to shame.
And that is the thing that I remember
most about this book. So I'm looking
forward to tabbing a lot of love
triangle scenes.
And then I've got another colour which is
orange and I've got nothing to tab with
orange. I think I'm just going to start
reading and maybe I'll see a pattern or
remember something that happens as I go
along that I want to mark in orange.
So first of all I want to mention that I
have no idea what is going on.
I am aware that Stephenie Meyer does
this thing where she
starts the book... she finishes the book. The plotline finishes
but then she has one or two scenes
before we kind of really finish up the
book. So for example in Twilight the plot line
finishes but there's that moment where
Edward takes her to the prom.
And I feel like New Moon probably had
some of those scenes because Jacob is
mad at Bella and I have
no idea why Jacob is mad at Bella. And in
the beginning
Charlie is mad at Edward and I was so
confused. Like why is Charlie so mad at
edward again?
Until I remembered that Edward did this
whole thing and Bella just went off on a
bender to Italy
and went and did some stuff and didn't
tell Charlie. So no wonder Charlie is mad at Edward. He
is rightfully allowed to be. I've also
noticed that I'm a little bit more
impatient all the time that they're
talking about Bella becoming a vampire
because I literally
just read the book where she becomes a
vampire. So all the time that they're
like: oh,
you're never gonna become a vampire and
she's like, yes I am! I'm like: we already
know it. Which, I guess, you always know when you
reread. But I think because of the fact
that I literally just
read it before reading this book, I'm a
bit more exhausted by it.
Then Bella's talking about the fact that
Edward wants her to become
her fiance and she's saying no. And I was just like what?? Edward's already
proposed and
suggested the idea of marriage? I thought
that happens somewhere in the book
but then my memory kicked in and I
realized that I think
Edward suggests this in the first book.
In my mind I've got this line like, marry
me Bella
and her first response is just like: no! I
think it happens in the first book so
the fact that Bella holds out
all the way until like the last book... I
think that is quite
showing how she has some backbone to her
in some situations. We've got some mentions of Bella saying
that the afternoon is the only time that
she's away from
Edward. And that Bella feels restless and
that just grated on me a little bit.
Come on, Bella. Be your own person. Be independent. And I
understand why
Charlie's kind of bargaining that she cannot
be grounded anymore if she spends more
time with other people. I really like
that. Again, that's another example of
Charlie just being a really good parent
and understanding before Bella does that
she's not supposed to just dedicate her
whole life to Edward. She's supposed to have friends and
speaking of friends... I forgot that she has friends because in
the last book in the series, she totally
forgets her friends. Forgets that they
exist. And just spends all of her time
with the Cullens and her new family.
And just doesn't mention Angela, Ben, Mike, anybody else. So the fact that
they're being mentioned again in this
book I'm like: whoa!
Bella has friends. And what happens to
them in the last book? Nobody cares.
Speaking of, when she talks a bit about
Renee this one and her mother... that was
something I forgot to mention in my
Breaking Dawn video,
is the fact that Bella, in her new life,
decides that she's going to include
Charlie and completely forgets about
this close bond that she has with Renee.
After the wedding scene Renee is barely
mentioned. Renee is barely thought of
and that seems so unrealistic because
Bella has such a close relationship with
her mother. So I feel like the fact that
her friends and her mum get forgotten
completely in the last
book definitely shows a problem. Oh and
this book mentions Wuthering Heights... I
definitely...
I have a problem with this because I
read Wuthering Heights when I was a
teenager
simply because it is mentioned so much
in this book. I absolutely detested
and hated Wuthering Heights with every
fibre of my body. I think that's one of
the books that I've hated the most
since I've been reading. I'm a bit tired
of the fact that Stephenie Meyer always
chooses like, one particular book
and then drives home the similarities. At
one point
Bella describes Edward and she mentions
the marble span of his forehead looking
gorgeous.
And I couldn't help rolling my eyes. That
was a little bit ridiculous.
And I do have to give it to Stephenie
Meyer. I just realised in this one that
Edward does still
use old terms of phrase and speaks in
quite
traditional or like, posh English. Not the
way that you would speak naturally. And because her writing style can be so
bad in some situations where she uses
like,
adverbs and adjectives again and again
and again. And it just
gets a bit repetitive. I forget that
sometimes she does do little details
really well. Such as always giving Edward
old turns of speech. I appreciate the
fact that she does do those small
details and that she does take the time
to include that in her writing. New tab, who dis? And orange was the colour
where I said I don't know what I'm gonna
tab.
But starting to read this I suddenly
remembered that this
is the book where Edward is the most
overprotective
and the most problematic that he is
across the whole series.
So I decided to tab every moment that
he's problematic. And we've had quite a
few
so far. So... so far he's forbidden
Bella from seeing Jacob, has actively
stopped her from doing so by ruining her
car to stop her from going where she
wants to go.
He also has lied about Alice's vision
and just deceived her in terms of what
the vision was about. And he's also done it in such a way that
he's kind of gaslighting
Bella's thoughts. Bella feels like she's
being over dramatic. Bella feels like
she's
got a wild imagination because she
imagines something far more dangerous
and far
worse than what Edward says the vision
really was about. But that is a lie and
the fact that he's gaslighting her like
that
is definitely problematic. And she--he
also kind of manipulates this
conversation
between Bella and Charlie so Bella
herself will push wanting to go
on holiday to see Renee. And I already
remember that that's because there are
vampires and a dangerous situation
happening
here in forks. So the fact that he does
all those things is definitely
problematic. And is definitely not the
Edward I like to see.
I can't believe younger me was behind
all of that. But then again younger me
was a naive
teenager who didn't really know that
much about relationships. Then we have
such a cute Charlie parenting moment.
Maybe I should be marking cute
Charlie parenting moments? I used all my
colours... So I did say that pink is going
to be moments where I think
like: I love this couple, they're actually
doing something romantic and cute. But from
what I can remember I don't think
there's too many romantic and cute
moments. So I'm going to switch up pink
and tab when Charlie is being a good
parent. But charlie does something really
good in this one when he has a sex talk
with Bella. And I just approve of the
fact that he does try. As a single dad
those conversations must be hard. For
some single dads to have with their
daughters. But I appreciate the fact that
he did
try his very very best. I do like the
found family moments in this series. I
talked about that a bit with my Breaking
Dawn read it backwards video.
And this one we only have like, one
paragraph. We're not even there in person
but she mentions that Edward and Alice
play chess. And it's just kind of a game
within their minds because of the power
that they have. And it just sounded like
so sweet. We still haven't seen Jacob and
i still don't know exactly where
Jacob and Bella left off. She mentioned
that they had a conversation
in New Moon at the end, in the forest. And
I have no idea
what that conversation was or what it
was composed of or what they decided on
or didn't decide on. Read it backwards is hard because i want
to know those things but I'm not
supposed to go into New Moon and just
check. So Bella goes to Renee with Edward
and they have a bit of a conversation.
And Renee talks about feeling concerned
about how protective Edward is of Bella
and the fact that Bella moves around him
like a satellite.
And Bella immediately gaslights Renee
and saying like: oh, you're imagining
things. You've been reading too much
sci-fi novels. And it's just like, wow.
Bella, you've really learned a thing or
two from Edward, haven't you?
At one point Jacob shows up at the
school and him and Edward have this
conversation. And Edward says do you really think
hurting her is better than protecting
her?
And I think that just shows the whole
dynamic and the difference between
Edward and Jacob. And why Jacob is
actually healthier for Bella in some
ways. And that is because Jacob is willing to
tell Bella the truth. Edward is not willing to do so and I
think that's one of the problematic
things about Edward. If you love someone
you're just gonna be upfront with them. You need
communication. And Edward is not about
that communication. And that's definitely
a big problem in their relationship. At
one point as well they're in school and
they're passing notes back and forth
while they're discussing.
And it made me realise how much that I
forget that this book actually
takes quite a bit of place like, in
school where they're in class and
talking about these like vampiric things
while
also trying to go through lessons. That's
a big thing. Especially in the first book.
And I forgot that it even features in
Eclipse.
It's just when we get to Breaking Dawn
that this book is set outside of school.
Then there was also a scene where
Bella's human friends have seen
Jacob and they have this discussion
where they're betting on whether
Edward's going to win Bella or Jacob's
going to win Bella. And I just... find that
so hilarious
because it's literally the book itself
during this whole team Jacob or team
Edward thing which is literally what we
were all doing
that time when these books were coming
out. And arguably are still doing now
talking about which team we were.
We're getting to see some of the
camaraderie between Bella's
friends because in the last book you
really have no sense that she was close
to any of her friends. There's even this
scene where she goes to like, Angela's
house
and Angela's talking to her boyfriend
Ben. And it's just like, wow, you
completely forget that Bella actually
had friends at one point. She even goes
to work and I was like??
Bella had a job?? We forget that she did
these things that were outside of Edward.
At one point Bella's talking about
wanting to become a vampire and Edward
says you know,
you can marry me under my conditions but
if you don't want to marry me and then
become a vampire that's between you and
Carlisle. And i was like,
between Bella and Carlisle? I totally forgot
that
her and Carlisle have some kind of
agreement going on. It's also a throwaway
thought where Bella arranges some
magnets in a straight line and then
she's like hmm,
maybe I have OCD? Bella, no. So one point in this Bella
manages to sneak off to the reservation
to see Jacob
and it made me so happy. Like, when her
and Jacob reunite
they're like little kids who have seen
each other for the first time in a long
time. And that just shows how pure and
enjoyable their friendship is.
And I love that their friendship is like
that. I wish that we had more moments
where we got to see their friendship
just being all happy and
funny and dandy rather than this huge
love triangle that kind of corrupts
everything. Jacob has a very interesting
conversation when he's talking about
reasons why Bella should not date Edward.
Jacob's says that Bella should date
within her species and then
he also goes on to say that the vampires
shouldn't exist.
Their existence goes against nature. And
when I read that I was immediately
thinking about
all of these like, racist things that I
read about when we talk about slavery in
the history,
of slavery. Can we read Bella and
Edward's relationship
as a huge analogy for interracial
relationships and how people are like,
you should only date people
of your own culture? I don't know. Could
we read it that way? Maybe. I'm not going to take the time to
think too much deeply into these things
because i'm not here to analyse the
whole series. Jacob mentions how he doesn't an age and
then he's like: do I look 16 to you? And I
was like,
Jacob is supposed to be 16? I completely
forgot that Jacob is 16 in these books.
Which is so young. Which makes a bit more
sense for a lot of the immature behavior
that he does
in this book in particular. I know that
he's quite a bit more grown up in the
next one and
it's so easy to forget that these
characters are like 16 and
17. Like, Edward's a vampire so okay, he's
17 but he's not 17. But Bella is 17
and Jacob is 16. And also they talk about
imprinting and
Jacob goes into the backstory of Sam. And
i completely forgot
that Emily, who Sam is with, is actually
Leah's
cousin. That makes Leah's story so much
more sad. Like, in Breaking Dawn I was
talking about how Leah's story is sad. It just drove home how much more painful
that must be. When Edward goes off to
hunt, now that Bella snuck away once
Alice is left to babysit. And Bella
actually says,
'Alice isn't this behavior a little bit
controlling. Isn't this a little bit
psychotic, perhaps?' And Alice is like:
i don't really think so. I'm just like:
well, Bella's finally realising that
Edward is overprotective
and Alice is the one who's just like not
really?
Alice, you need to know better. So we just
had Rosalie's backstory and
I felt a lot of things about this
backstory because I think younger me
didn't quite compute
the relevance and the darkness of what
is actually being talked about. So I'm
going to be discussing sexual assault
briefly here and I'll have an emoji up
here. And I'll let that image go down
once I'm done talking about the sexual
assault.
But I think we forget that she was
essentially gang raped because Stephenie
Meyer jumps over it. She leads up to it so we
know what's happening and then she just
cuts off that bit and Rosalie says I don't
wanna -- I'll just spare you the details and then
she moves on. And it's actually quite a
heavy thing to just have in the middle
of this book. Not that we shouldn't have heavy things
in this book but I think it's quite
often forgotten
and overlooked about Rosalie's story. And I
quite liked the way that Rosalie got
revenge. I think I forgot. I know what her story
is but I forgot it. I forgot how well her reason set her up
for what happens in Breaking Dawn and
why she's so protective of Bella.
Especially when she talks about wanting
a child. Bella like, takes something...
Bella takes something away from the
story that is completely different
than Rosalie's aim which just, it like,
completely misses the mark with Bella.
Rosalies's actually doing a really good
thing.
She's making Bella think about things
that she hasn't thought about before
because until Beaking Dawn when she has
that dream
she doesn't think about having children
at all. She's only thinking about the age
side of things. So Rosalie is kind of
trying to point her in the right
direction. And Bella doesn't even think about it.
Even if Bella just thought about it and
said:
Oh, I don't want children. That's
perfectly fine because if she makes that
decision that's her decision. But she doesn't take a chance to think
about that at all after the discussion
so I think she completely misses the
point. I also remember
on twitter somewhere you know deep in
the Twilight fandom because I go deep, Bella mentions that Edward
doesn't like to tell other people's
stories because he hears so much more
than they want to tell. And I....
just... it reminds me that
I forget to give Edward credit because
he does a pretty good job. His
power is one that could he so easily
take advantage of other people with
but he doesn't use it to take advantage
of other people. I know there's a
backstory moment where he talks about
killing people
and how he used the mind reading thing. But excluding that
he doesn't use it to take advantage of
people and I appreciate that. Rosalie mentioned how she found Emmett
and how
she saved him and converted him. And it
made me just have a moment where I was
like, Emmett just doesn't even get to
tell his own backstory. I feel like
everybody tells their own backstory
except for Esme
and Emmett. And that's just so fitting for
their characters because those are two
characters
who are really underutilised in the
Cullen family. And you just don't really
get to see that much of them.
There was one moment in these 200 pages
where Esme said something and I was like,
whoa, Esme speaking? Because she and Emmett really don't do
much other than be the typecast roles of
a motherly character
and somebody who's strong and just wants
to like mess around all the time.
I also really want to know what was
Emmett doing to get himself mauled by a
bear. Was he hiking? What was he doing? Did he
provoke the bear?
I feel like Emmett totally would have
provoked the bear. At one point Bella
goes to school and it's literally just a
small
small scene. And mike is like, where's
Edward? Not her. Do you want to hang out
tonight, Bella? So I don't know if this is
Mike just being
a friend and saying like, wow, Bella's
finally not with the other half.
We can have time to spend together as
friends. But in the writing also mentions
that Mike sounds so hopeful. I don't know if it's like hopeful as
friends or hopeful as can I move in on
Bella.
And it just reminded me all of a sudden
that Mike is
so so annoying in the first two books. I could be wrong. I need to wait till I
read them backwards again. But I remember
Mike just
always being persistent about chasing
down Bella even though Bella's made it
clear that her preference is not for him. And that leads me on to my next question:
why are Bella and Jacob always holding
hands?
What is Bella doing? Bella knows that
Jacob has feelings for her.
Bella knows that she's never gonna
return those feelings. So yes, I
completely think there's nothing wrong
with a boy and girl holding hands while
they are friends. Do what you want. However, it's not a
platonic friendship right now. There's
one person who has feelings for the
other person and you just need to do
things
to help them get through removing those
feelings. So then you can go back to
being friends. Holding hands at the moment... it's not
gonna help him, Bella. So Bella and Jacob have an argument and
then Bella goes back to Alice. And Alice is the one who's like looking
after her while Edward's gone. And then Alice sees that Bella's upset
and asks like, do you want to talk about
it? And
again, it just struck me for a second
Alice and Bella are really good friends.
I feel like I always forget that they're
friends because we are told that they
are friends
but we don't see that many scenes with
them being friends. As far as I can
remember...
for me to think, oh yeah, Bella and Alice,
they're a really strong
female friendship. Like, I never think of
them when I consider female friendships
and that's because Bella's always
just like, being pampered by Alice and
maybe complaining a little bit. And I
forget, you know, they actually have a
bond. Aand that moment reminded me yeah, Alice
and Bella are friends
even though Alice knows asking Bella
what's wrong opens up a whole bag of
tricks for her because there's Edward
and she's trying to be objective and she
still wants to be a good friend to Bella
regardless of her own prejudices. That's
all good stuff.
Okay, Edward comes back from his trip and
he's all of a sudden like:
sorry Bella, I was wrong. I shouldn't have
been so overprotective. If you want to
see Jacob
you can. Iif you think the werewolves are
safe I'll trust your judgement
and I'm just like... forget Midnight Sun! I
don't want to know what
Edward was thinking during Twilight. I
want to know what Edward was thinking
during Eclipse.
What happened on that hunting trip that
he just came back as his totally
reasonable and less toxic boyfriend,
ready to actually listen to his
girlfriend? How did that happen? Was he just hangry? Was that hangriness?
We also have a little phone call between
Edward and Jacob and we start to see the
beginning of the werewolves and the
vampires working together.
I have to say some of my favourite
moments are when the werewolves and the
vampires are
working together. I think that's the
thing I like the most. I don't think I
love the enemies to lovers trope as
much as I think I do because none of my
ships are enemies to lovers.
But I like the enemies to, as I've put
it before, enemies to co-workers. I really
love seeing that. So every time the
vampires and the wolves start to work
together
I'm just like... Jacob explains to Bella
why he's always running around shirtless
and
I don't know? Do I miss the days when
young adult authors
try to get their like, guy characters
shirtless as much as possible because
readers loved it? Do I? Do I miss those days ? It was just
funny because I remember all of the
books of like, randomly running around
shirtless teenagers. So dramatic. Old young adult is just such
a laugh. And at that moment when she's cleaning
away the blood and everything Jacob
asked if she has OCD and I'm just like,
um, can we stop? Also at one point when
Jacob invites Bella out and Bella's like
oh, I don't know if I can come because
maybe my boyfriend doesn't want it.
Jacob's like: I watchws this tv series the
other day about controlling abusive
teenage relationships and I was like yes!
Jacob!
Yes, get Bella to watch that tv show. She
needs to learn a thing or two.
And then Edward comes in and Edward's
like, don't you need to ask me if you can
go to this werewolf party thing later? And Bella's like: I wasn't gonna ask you.
And then she has this whole scene
where she's trying to figure out what
Edward wants. And she's trying to fight
the yearning to go to the werewolf party
because she knows that Edward probably
doesn't want her to go. But he's just
being nice
and she doesn't know what Edward really
wants. And she's just...
how deeply did Edward manipulate her?
Even that she wants to go
and she really wants to be there but
because she knows that before he didn't
want her to,
she's trying not to want to go because
she knows what his reaction used to have
been. That's some deep manipulation. That's
some deep toxic relationship
facts right there. When I was first
reading this, but I think when I was
first rereading this, I was thinking
about how
dumb the characters in this book are
because first
Victoria visits, then there's this army
of vampires and then a mysterious
visitor
comes in to smell Bella's clothes and
like, take Bella's clothes and her scent.
Why like, these vampires are centuries
old. Why did none of them take a moment
to think maybe
these three random threatening things
that are happening
are not disjointed and may be connected.
If they use
like, two of their brain cells that they
must have grown
in the centuries that they've been alive,
they would have figured it out. But no,
smart vampires can't figure these things
out. We have to wait until our main
character Bella puts two and two
together. And last but not least we need to talk
about the ridiculousness of the last
scene that I read. Just by the chapter
where I stopped reading is the scene
where Edward goes to the line
to drop off Bella so that she can go
hang with Jacob. And Edward like, snogs
Bella and then
hands over Bella to Jacob. And then Jacob
hugs Bella and they're just doing it to
mess with each other. And I'm just like,
you guys are both five years old and you
don't get to have nice things
because you're both ridiculous. And just
playing up the love triangle
to the absolute max. I'm not sure how the
lighting is going to handle this. So
let's start with
some things that I don't think Meyer does
very well. So whenever she refers to
Emily who is Sam's wife's, face she often
uses the word
ruined because Emily's got a lot of
scars. And
when we get later on Jasper's reveal of
his backstory, he also scars up on his
arms and
she uses the word ravaged. And I just... I'm
not a big fan of her
terms when describing these people who
have scars. I think she could use better
terminology. Again, another thing that I
wasn't a huge fan of is in this one we
get
some of the legends and the stories that
relate to the werewolves. And she starts
to talk about like, spirit warriors
and like, leaving your body and all of
that. And I just...
it it's not her place to talk about that.
It did not make me very comfortable
and I didn't like that at all. Then I
recently talked about how I don't see
Alice and Bella's friendship and
then after that a whole flurry
of scenes happened which shows me Bella
and Alice's friendship. Even times where
Bella trusts Alice before she trusts
Edward because she trusts her more because she's a
friend rather than a partner. Just
different kinds of trust for different
things. And I did appreciate seeing that. So I was definitely proven wrong. Alice
and Bella do have a strong friendship
and it is featured. I just wasn't looking
at it probably because I was looking at
Jasper.
At one point in this Bella literally
says I'd rather not be human. I'd rather
not be waiting around all
helpless and delicious. And I just
cracked up so much at that wording. Sometimes this book is just too funny.
also quite like the scene when we have
Bella panicking because
Carlisle -- I now know that Carlisle had a deal
that he would transform her after
graduation. And she's panicking because graduation's
coming up and she's not ready yet. And I
quite like seeing that panic.
I don't think she's ready as of where
she is in this book. And I think it's a
good idea that they decided to delay it. And Edward actually says some pretty
good stuff about
waiting until your hand is not being
forced. And it's truly your choice. And saying that, Edward then talks to
Bella about
why she doesn't want to marry him. And
Edward's like
tell me honestly why you don't want to marry
me. And he mentions that he had this
insecurity that Bella
was craving immortality more than
craving a life with him.
And that was just, you know, there's not
been many moments in this read it
backwards yet where I've been like, Edward's doing something cute and
romantic. Just, I haven't been feeling it
in Breaking Dawn
and I just only felt it just then. When
we got to see
an insecurity of Edward's. And I don't
think up until now we've seen any of
Edward's insecurities. So it was nice to kind of have that
moment where we see, oh, he's not as
perfect as we think. He makes
misunderstandings,
and well, we knew he's not perfect
because he's like, a creepy stalker. But a normal human insecurity in terms
of loving Bella and not feeling enough. I also had this groundbreaking moment
when I finally understood that Rosalie,
in her relationship with Emmett, is
actually the more defensive
and protective person. And that that
dynamic has entirely shifted. They're discussing about the coven of
vampires who are in Seattle killing
people. And Emmtt's like, let's go
now. And Rosalie's upstairs and she
hisses like: we ain't going nowhere.
And I just remembered in the beginning
of the book when Victoria visits
she's hopping between the boundary
between wolves and
Cullens, Emmett jumps over into the
wolves territory
and then gets back. But then rosalie also
jumps over to defend him and to like,
protect him. And oftentimes we see like Jasper wanting
to be protective of Alice and Edward
wanting to be protective Bella. And we do
see
even Carlisle being protective of Esme.
But
I'm just realising how much in like,
subliminal ways, we see
Rosalie is the more protective one of
Emmett. And it also kind of makes sense
with Rosalie's backstory of her having
saved Emmett from the
bear. She's the one who's the most
protective in this relationship that
she's got going on. And I don't know why
I'm suddenly so interested in Rosalie
when 'm reading Eclipse at the moment.
I think maybe it's because I actually
took the time to think about her
backstory more. But I'm actually, I like Rosalie??
Rosalie is like, fixing the car while
Emmett is acting as a jack for her. And
holding it up. And I'm just like,
Rosalie fixes cars and she's
beautiful? Like Rosalie is amazing. And then we have to talk about Jasper's
backstory. I forgot actually that this
book is quite slow paced because
I've read more than half of the book and
no action has happened. And it's a lot
more slow paced than the other ones
because we're getting so many more
characters backstories. But Jasper's
backstory...
we get to hear about my favourite little
cowboy bodyguard. He's so
adorable. I just love Jasper so much,
honestly.
I've been campaigning that Jasper is an
infj. Actually the reason Jasper becomes
a vampire is because he stops
and helps the wrong people. That's the
immediate infj behavior. And in Jasper's story we actually see
the Volturi as good
because they do have a purpose. And I
think it's just a nice switch up
because all the bad stuff we've seen
about the Volturi we're like, why on
earth are they even established? Why
do people listen to them? But he talks about the good stuff that
the Volturi do and it's also important
to see that.
Even though of course the Volturi are
still problematic major problematic and
evil and still exist by the end of the
series.
There's like, no solving of that issue.
It's good to know that there is good in
them as well. I liiterally had a moment
where I was like,
oh, that's who Peter and Charlotte are. We
meet so many secondary characters
in the final book and I was like, Peter
and Charlotte, okay. They got history, okay. But now that we've had Jesper's
backstory we know who -- I just said Jesper --
but now that we've had Jasper's
backstory we know who Peter and
Charlotte
are. Also just for mentioning how hunting
is emotional turmoil for him.
I never even thought about that side of
things. About how he feels the emotion of
the prey. And I just feel for him so much. He must
have really struggled. And, of course, Jasper's sad story ends with him meeting
Alice. And that that scene right there, where
Jasper explains Alice's meet cute
and then they kind of do the same
actions in real life... 
that is the cutest romantic scene in all
of Eclipse. Fight me, it's the cutest one. Alice and
Jasper have the cutest
meet cute. Oh I also had another big
moment! See this is what I expected from
reading backwards. Is that in this one it
explains that Irina has a problem with
the wolves because Irina had a thing with
Laurent. Laurent is killed in New Moon and
i remember that,
by the wolves when they're protecting
Bella which is why
Irina doesn't like the wolves. And
Irina's dislike for the wolves is what
contributes to her running straight to
the Volturi
in Breaking Dawn to snitch. I completely
forgot
that tiny scene where we see why she
hates the wolves. And then when I read it
I was like,
things in Breaking dawn make sense!!
Because when they said Irina doesn't
like the wolves I kind of just skimmed
over it. Like, I accepted it
but I didn't take it in because I didn't
remember why. And now everything
makes sense. Okay, now we're getting into
some tea. Jacob tells Bella I love you and you
know, we all saw that coming. We don't
mind. We know this is a love triangle. But
the next thing he does
is the most problematic thing and it's
the part where I like. I dislike Jacob
the absolute most.
Is that he kisses Bella without Bella's
permission and
it's just horrific. That scene is
horrifi. He kisses Bella without her
permission and then Bella's literally
fighting him back
and he acknowledges that Bella is
fighting him back and then
he kisses her harder because he
acknowledges that she's fighting back.
That is so so problematic. I don't know. I
felt her frustration
when she tried to punch Jacob in the
face and it had no effect but it broke
her hand. My blood was boiling. There was something
else that made me angrier and I'm just
so upset that Stephenie Meyer just did
this to Charlie. Is that Charlie is supportive of Jacob!
Bella goes
home. She goes to Charlie and she explains
the situation and Charlie says:
good for you, kid to Jacob. Like, Charlie,
can you not? Can you can you just not. And then later
on after the whole graduation scene
Charlie's like, you know what, you need to
know how to defend yourself when someone
you don't like kisses you. It's important
that you can defend yourself in those
situations.
And I was like, good, this is good
parenting. You want your child to be able
to defend themselves against any sexual
assault situations.
That's good. And then he was like, and you
need it just in case Jacob does it again
because he's gonna do it again. Because he's a kid. And I'm like, no,
Charlie, no! That's not right. You need to be berating Jacob for this.
You need to be talking to Jacob for this. He can't just go around kissing girls
against their will because
he... he wants to! That shouldn't
happen. Charlie, I expected better from you. Jacob,
I expected better from you too. That's
that's all I have to say. And
I have to say I'm impressed with
Edward's conduct because after this
situation Jacob and him have a little
standoff.
In the film they make that stand off way
more tense than it is in these books.
But it's still equally as tense. And
Edward's literally like, I'm not gonna
kill you
just because Bella would be upset
later on. And I was just like, Edward you've got more self-control than
I ever expected, honestly. I'm telling you,
that time that he went away to hunt and
then he came back. He is a changed person. I have to be honest, I don't like how
easily Bella forgives Jacob. I think
Jacob doesn't show enough remorse and I
do think that
he could have done a bit more before
Bella was just like, okay, I forgive you,
let's move on. There was also a scene
that I literally loved where Jacob is
trying to figure out what's happening at
this graduation party. And he intimidates Alice. And alice is
just like: excuse me?! And then Jasper,
he shows up. He's there in a blink of an
eye and he's just looking petrifying
like: how dare you
block up my a girl. You better
move.
And I was... I think I'm just remembering
how much I love Jasper I already knew I
loved Jasper but why is it that always
in my favourite series
I end up loving the secondary characters
so much more than the main characters?
Do I care about Edward and Bella? No. Do I
want a Jasper and Alice story?
Yes! In this book Bella was like: oh, I'm
scared to see the wolves. This is gonna
be the third time that I see Jacob in
wolf form. And I was like,
the third time you see Jacob in wolf
form?! Because in Breaking Dawn she's
always talking about Jacob in wolf form and all of the wolves are just so
normal and natural to her. And in my head
the book New Moon is just
completely a werewolf book in my head. So
I have this impression that the whole of
New Moon she spends time with them
as wolves and humans. But I guess she
mostly just spends time with them as
humans.
So therefore this is actually only the
third time she sees Jacob in wolf form
and it
completely blew my mind. Then we get to
one of my favourite scenes. Okay, so I
don't know why I needed to grab my book
but my favourite scene in Eclipse and one
of my favourite scenes in the
entire series: the fighting training
scene where Jasper is teaching them how
to kill newborn vampires, essentially. And I love this scene for many reasons.
The first being
it's totally a Jasper spotlight. The
only two Jasper spotlights we get in the
whole series is when Jasper tells his
backstory
and also when Jasper teaches them how to
fight. I
love Jasper so of course, Eclipse like,
of course, it's one of my favourites. We
get those two main Jasper scenes.
Secondly, I think this is the first time
that we get to see
and truly value Edward and Alice's
powers in a practical
sense. In the other books we get to see
that Aro wants Edward and Alice in
New Moon and Breaking Dawn because they have
such formidable powers.
However, we see those powers as kind of
all the mental advantages of having
these powers and things. We never really get to see them used in
a sense of how is this going to help
them while they're fighting. How is this
going to help them defend themselves. And
we get to see that in the fighting scene.
And the fighting scene with Alice and
Jasper in fighting and with Edward
and Jasper...
it's just absolutely perfect. I also
really like how the films did these two
scenes.
The films adapted them really well. And
when Alice fights Jasper at the end she
like, kisses him
on the throat and it's all cute and they
have a little moment. And I'm just like... Alice and Jasper truly have the best
romance. Then we have a moment where
Jacob and Bella are just chatting while
Jacob's in wolf form. And bella's in
human form. And I actually really like
that Jacob and Bella's friendship is so
pure
when Jacob is as a wolf. Again, because
it's just the friendship and it's not
in any way romantic. And that's why I
like those scenes so much.
And the last thing I want to say is I stand
corrected. Jasper's not an infj.
He is in my opinion an infp. And an infp and infj are very easy to get
confused because they have a lot of
similarities.
The biggest difference that I can always
see is the practicality of a person.
Infps are a lot more practical or at
least come across as a lot more
practical. And I think in this part where we get to
see the Cullens strategising and also just
portraying them and the thoughts that he
has like... he has some errant thoughts and
Edward's like:
not a chance, that puts Bella in danger.
And in that moment I was like, oh,
Jasper's actually an infp because he's
thinking practically and bodyguards tend
to be
p of the j or p side of things. Just
because they're always thinking
practically and that makes him a good
bodyguard.
Which makes a lot of sense because all
of my favourite male characters tend to
be infps. Adam parrish is an infp, Edilio from the
Gone series from what I remember is
likely an infp.
And then we have Jasper who's probably
an infp.
So Edward was talking to Bella and
Edward said the way you regard me is
ludicrous. And I'm just,
I'm just saying Edward said it. And then
Bella plays the manipulation game for
the first time. She's learned
so well from her partner in crime. She has manipulated him into choosing
whether he sits
out with her or goes and fights with his
family. Now honestly, personally,
i can't help but think how terrible of
her to
make him choose between her or his
family. I do think there are some situations in
life which do
warrant a choice between having a
happily ever after with the love of your
life or
having to choose with like, choose your
family. Sometimes there are situations
where you have to choose between the two. However, this situation did not call for
it and Bella made him choose which I was
just like,
R U D E. You didn't need to make him choose. You didn't need to make him make that
decision. He said it was going to be all right and
it is going to be all right. And I just, I  can't help but like, side eye Bella in
this moment. Bella decides that next time
there's going to be a fight or any type
of confrontation,
she is not going to be helpless. She's
going to be a vampire. And as we've seen
in Breaking Dawn, that's exactly the
situation she's in
the next time. Which further proves my
essay title of
when Bella makes up a decision she gets
her way. And now we need to talk about the
marriage sex situation. I thought we were done with that after
Breaking Dawn but no, we get it here too
because they bargain their way into
marriage. Honestly,
just leave it to this couple. Edward and
Bella have been bargaining since
day one. Since book one when Bella was
trying to figure out
if Edward was a vampire or not. She was
saying like, you tell me some things and
I'll tell you some things.
The whole thing where Bella's trying to
seduce Edward it just,
it reeks of awkwardness. I was just
reading and I was cringing
for Bella. But literally Edward makes
some really really good points when he's
refusing her. I know they don't consider the pregnancy
side effect that happens. But just imagine take one moment to
imagine if Edward killed Bella during
sex.
He would be livid. He'd be so
sad. I can't imagine how soft and gentle
he has to be with Bella
every single day of their relationship
not to kill her. So in situations where they go beyond
that,
it's just inevitable that he would kill
her. I don't understand how he manages to
do it
without killing her. Don't think that's
believable. Forget Midnight Sun I want
the Breaking Dawn scenes from Edward's
perspective
because he cannot have been enjoying
himself in any way or form. The book
makes it seem like he's enjoying himself
but literally every moment of their
experience
in their honeymoon he must probably be
thinking: I hope I'm not killing her. I
need to be gentle.
He can't be enjoying himself. He must be
majorly distracted. I do have to admit
that it's quite cute to see Edward so
excited about the concept of marrying
Bella. Bella is entirely reluctant. She
does not want this. She's not happy to be
in this situation. But Edward is just glowing and in love
and happy and it's kind of,
it's kind of adorable. Eclipse is really
making Edward seem human. We're seeing
him be jealous, seeing him be in love,
we're seeing him be
doubtful and insecure
every now and again. And we rarely get to
see that. Bella cuts herself while she's
creating the trail in the woods
and Edward's like,  it's okay, this doesn't
faze me anymore. It doesn't bother me
anymore. I'm just saying
how much must it take for him to get
over this. I know I talked about this in
my Breaking Dawn video
but I want you to know that if the love
of my life was made out of dried mango
or lemon cheesecake,
no matter how much time I've had with
him,
I would probably still end up eating him. And at one point
Bella's talking to Jacob and she shouts
out the fact that the kiss that Jacob
gave her was not a kiss. It was an
assault in her mind. And I was like, yes
Bella! You tell him it how it is. So I know that
in the end
Jacob is correct that Bella is in love
with both. Edward and Jacob. But it still annoys me that the entirety
of Jacob's
argument about why he's still pursuing
Bella is because of the fact that Bella
doesn't know what she wants. And that
Bella doesn't know that she's in love
with him because I'm kind of done with
the narrative of women not knowing what
they want or women not knowing about
themselves. And that basically men know the best for
them. I'm kind of done with that argument. Now,
we have to talk about
the tent scene. The tent scene is a
major scene. Okay, it changed
the game for a lot of love triangles. The
peak of love triangle. There's love
triangle and then there's
the tent scene. It's the peak of love
triangles. I just have to
take a moment to admire Edward for his
self-control because he's literally got
another man
pressed up against his girl and he can
read Jacob's thoughts. He can
see all of the thoughts that Jacob is
thinking. That must be difficult. I just have to
give it to Edward. One point Jacob
mentions that he has
chin length hair. Chin length hair! I
think because the films
kind of overpower my memory for this
because in the films he chops his long
hair and then he's always got short hair, I forget that he grows it out again in
Eclipse because he thinks that Bella
likes him better
with long hair. Completely forgot about
that. And then in the tent scene we have
Edward talking to jacob and admitting
that he
is super jealous of Jacob. And he's got
those jealousy feels.
And it's just another thing that makes
him so human. I think that's why I like
Eclipse
the second best in the series. Because of
the fact that we get to see Edward is so
human. And Edward also makes a good point
where he mentions how many times he's
thought that
Bella is either dead or dying in this
series. And it doesn't even end because
in Breaking Dawn we know that she's like,
literally dying all over again.
So it just makes me think he has been
through an emotional rollercoaster.
With him getting to know Bella the
Cullens have had so many
ups and downs and excitements and
adventures with Bella in their life.
And Edward must have had some emotional
turmoil. Is that Breaking Dawn
foreshadowing or is it just a case in
point with Bella always almost being on
the edge of death? Who
even knows. And I'm telling you,
Edward being sassy. Sassy Edward is the best
kind of Edward. He's
throwing barbs at Jacob. Jacob's
throwing them back and they're just
acting kind of brotherly. And we get to see that brotherly
relationship more and Breaking Dawn. When Edward wakes up Jacob by like,
ripping open the sleeping bag and
chucking him across the tent.
How big is this tent for starters? But
also how dramatic are they? I'm telling
you, someone must have upped Edward's
venom dosage during the night because
Edward is major dramatic the next
morning.
So Edward does a thing to make
Jacob know that Bella's engaged and I
kind of agree with Edward at this point. He deserves to know
that Bella is engaged and that she's off
the table.
Well, not technically because she can
still change her mind. But definitely,
Jacob deserved to know. Jacob's second
kiss with Bella is
absolutely awful. It took some
manipulation
and it just it feels so uncomfortable to
see the blatant manipulation happen.
And for bella to just give into it. I
just...
And in the beginning in the case she's
like, so stiff and not feeling it... it's
painful to read. I know she changes her mind halfway
through the kiss and she starts to like.
feel it and stuff. But everything that
leads up to it
is literally so wrong. And so
uncomfortable. That again, I
really don't like Jacob in this book. I
think Eclipse is the book where Jacob is
the literal worst. Again, I'm just
propping up Edward a lot here. I know in
the beginning of the book I tore him
down so much because of the
manipulation and everything problematic he
did. But in Eclipse
and it kind of flips and he kind of...
becomes the best
option for Bella. And that way he handles
this whole thing with Jacob
and everything that happens after the
kiss scene and seeing it himself through
the minds of the pack,
and then seeing Bella and how he reacts
to Bella and being kind to Bella...
I can just imagine the emotional torment
and turmoil that he's going through. The
doubt,
the jealousy and yet he's still putting
on his best face for Bella. And he offers Bella
the poly situation on a silver platter. He literally says like you can have as
much of me
or as little of me as you want. I'm not
going to make you choose between us. And if Jacob would have ever agreed to it
Bella could have had it both ways. And
knowing Edward and Jacob
things could have happened. I'm just
going to leave that there... I feel
like Edward is so understanding in this...
inhumanly understanding. Maybe a bit too
perfectly understanding. But you can see that that understanding
is costing him so maybe it is human
after all.
In this one also Bella takes the time to
vow that she's never ever
gonna hurt Edward in that way ever again. And
then Breaking Dawn happens and I can see
why it foreshadows why Bella is so
chipper
and putting on her best face throughout
the painful pregnancy. Because she
doesn't want to hurt
Edward in the way that she did in
Eclipse. So that makes a lot of sense.
And I remember mentioning in Breaking
Dawn video like, oh, Edward calls Bella
love. When did that happen? I can see when it
happened in Eclipse now
because after the Jacob kiss when he's
reassuring Bella that everything's okay,
he still loves her regardless,
he starts to call Bella love. And now
we're at the part where the action is
happening in the meadow and Edward is
just reciting it because he's reading it
from Seth's mind. And he's not actually
there.
The films make Eclipse seem way more
action heavy than the book is. And I'm on
page
470 of 550 and now the action is
starting. And we're not even there for the action.
We're getting it recited to us. I know
we're going to see a little bit of
action when Victoria comes our way
in Eclipse but still, the film does do
the action
better. It makes the action more central
to the whole storyline and we actually
get to see
the action happening in the meadow as
well as what happens with the Victoria
so
it's true that the film does make the
action more central and more interesting. But I guess with these books
they're just so introspective
and all about emotions and feelings. It's
primarily a romance and not an action
book.
So I don't actually have anything to say
about this fight between Riley
and... Veronica?? Oh my gosh I just read the
book.
And Victoria and them lot. I just don't
have anything to say about the fight.
Nothing significant happens. I do have to say about the aftermath
there's a really cute scene which is not
supposed to be cute, where
this is the first time Bella's seen Edward
murder anyone. So when Edward is
done fighting he's worried that he's
scared Bella off.
And it just threw me back to the first
book in the series, Twilight, where Edward
mentions always waiting for Bella to do
the running and the screaming and
disappear
into nothingness because she's so afraid
of him. And he's just flashed back to
that moment where he's shown another
layer of his
strength and his ability that Bella's
never seen before. So he's waiting for
the running and the screaming which
would hurt so much more if it happened
in this book rather than in the first
book. Also when they get to the clearing and
Jacob's been injured and everything
Carlisle volunteers -- Like, nobody asks
Carlisle to say anything, okay, and Carlisle's
just like: I examined Jacob
myself. And we all know that the crush
starts the.re
There's something that happens so my
Jarlisle ship, which is what it's decidedly
been called, Jarlisle... There's something that makes
Carlisle and Jacob, you know, start to have
those feelings. And that moment is
definitely when
Carlisle is repeatedly looking after
Jacob. And repeatedly in his presence. So even though Carlisle doesn't know that
his crush has started, it has started at
that point.
And then he goes on to like, monologue
about Jacob and how he's gonna be fine.
And I'm just like: yeah, you're crush. It's beginning. He even says like, as soon as
this is over I'm gonna go right back to
jjacob. and I'm like: yeah boi
you run back to your crush. In the fight
we have another cute Jasper Alice scene
where Jasper's
was trying to be everywhere at once,
especially making sure that Alice had
nothing to do.
Alice is like: foolish overprotective
boy. And I'm like, yeah, we love a foolish
overprotective boy trying to do the most. And again, it's such infp behavior to try
and protect everyone possible that he
can,
all at once. Even though he shouldn't do
that. Then the whole scene of Bree
happens and I don't really have much to
say about Bree Tanner. I'm not a big fan of
that novella. And I'm not reading it for read it
backwards. But just imagine take a moment
to imagine what life would have been
like if Bree Tanner had joined the
Cullens.
It probably would have set back Bella's
own conversion quite a bit. And they
probably would have had to move
for the safety of everyone. So that would
have been interesting. So Bella goes back home and Charlie's
like, yeah, when Edward was
with Carlislie healing Jacob, Edward was so
concerned about Jacob, it was almost like
it was his brother
on the table getting fixed. And I was
just like,
Edward is concerned about Jacob. Genuinely concerned.
Is it because Edward's concerned for
Jacob because Bella is always concerned
about Jacob? Or is it because Edward is
actually
already liking Jacob as a brother and is
concerned for him. I like to think it's
the latter which is probably the case. At one point Jacob says the only reason
why you chose Edward is because Edward
is a better manipulator than me. And
honestl, Jacob you're not wrong. At one
point
Bella jokes with Jacob while she's going
through the process of breaking up with
Jacob even though they haven't actually
been dating.
And she says probably when I'm a vampire
I'm going to be such a menace that the
pack has to take me out. And Jacob says
I would never let them do that. And it's
so funny because is that foreshadowing,
that's exactly what happens.
Bella becomes a menace because she
becomes pregnant with this unknown
thing at the time that they are having
these struggles. And Jacob's like you
can't kill Bella. So essentially foreshadowing. Edward
keeps
asking Bella is she sure she made the
right choice when she chose between him
or Jacob. And the fact that he keeps
checking in with her
and is just so tormented by her torment...
I fell in love with Edward a little bit
again.
He's just doing the most by the end of
this book. And at one point he says
I can't stand for you to be miserable
maybe dot dot dot....
Maybe dot dot poly relationship? He's
offering it once again.
Then Alice and Bella situation happens
where Bella's like okay, Alice you can
run my wedding and everything. And again, it just shows how much Alice
and Bella are actually friends. I love
seeing proof of that. It really shines in
this book. And then they go to the meadow and
honestly, I have this meadow scene
memorised because for teenage me
it was everythin. I love the meadow. I
love that Edward and Bella have this
beautiful place that they go to
and it's just iconic for them. I love
that so much. The scene where Edward's
like, in the meadow with her and he's
like,
deals off we're gonna do things your way,
always
always gets m. I have that completely
memorised. Edward has this epiphany
that
trying to do things his way has never
worked. He's the one who forces the
decision in New Moon. He's the one who left her, he's the one
who tries to make decisions that
essentially cause her a lot of pain.
So it's kind of fair that he has this
epiphany that doing things Bella's way
might be better for the both of them. When he says I love you,
i want you, right now... and when I was
younger
before I discovered the genre of new
adult,
teen me... That scene that scene did it for
me. It really did it for me. And
I'm not going to lie, it still kind of
does. It's a very
innocent scene and yet every time I read
it I'm like... actually I get why I was in
love with Edward. But it just
it makes perfect sense. And as for that
epilogue we got to see
the real reason why Jacob is missing in
Breaking Dawn. I did miss that
information. I knew that
Jacob was missing in Breaking Dawn. I
knew it had something to do with Edward
choosing Bella but I didn't know that
the catalyst for his disappearance was
the fact
that he received a wedding invitation.
And it makes a lot of sense that Embry
Quil tried to follow him and then Sam
was like: give him some space. So that's all I have to say about
Eclipse. If I had to rate Eclipse today
I'd probably rate it four stars.
For me, I definitely believe that a
four-star rating can still be a favourite
book and this is still the second
favourite... my second favourite
in the series completely. I still love it
just as much. There were some points
where
things were iffy some things I didn't
like and I don't particularly like the
Jacob
side of the triangle in this one. I
should just say I don't like the way
that
the indigenous characters are portrayed
in this book. So I'm going to still have that link where
you can donate
to the tribe itself in the description
box down below. And I'm also going to
leave a link to some
indigenous booktubers specifically
because that's what we do here.
And yeah, that's all I can say. This video
is definitely long. I don't think I can
cut it down as much as I would like to. So if you managed to make it this far into
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