
Bosnian: 
Zovem se Tom Haley.
Ja sam fotoreporter.
Uvijek sam želio sam da budem fotograf.
Zanimao me više umjetnički aspekt fotografije
nego novinarska fotografija.
Ustvari, mene je najviše zanimala dokumentarna fotografija.
Putovati svijetom, upoznavati ljude,
upoznavati različite ljude.
Nekako na taj način i sami sebe upoznamo.
Naravno da su svi gledali
šta se dešava u Jugoslaviji.
Nisam sa nekom radošću došao ovdje
zato što sam već bio,
imao sam već deset godina iskustva u ovom poslu

English: 
My name is Tom Haley, I'm a photojournalist.
You know I always wanted to be a photographer
I was more interested in the art
aspect of the photography
as opposed to a journalistic kind of photography.
But, in fact, I think it was documentary photography
that was my main interest.
To travel around the world,
meet people, meet different people.
Somehow it is a way one gets to know oneself.
Of course, everybody was watching
what was happening in Yugoslavia.
It was not with great joy that I came here
because I was already
had over ten years of working in the business

Bosnian: 
i imao sam dvoje male djece.
Također, ovaj rat je bio veoma opasan za fotoreportere.
Prvi put sam došao u maju 1992.
Najviše me zanimalo Sarajevo,
grad pod opsadom i kako se ljudi
suočavaju sa ratom.
Zanimalo me je da vidim kako
narod može da živi pod opsadom toliko dugo.
Tako da sam se stalno vraćao.
Kao što rekoh, imao sam porodicu,
ja bih dolazio i odlazio.
Često sam dolazio, ne zato što se nešto dešavalo,
nego zato što je bilo bitno
da pokažem svojim prijateljima i Sarajlijama
da je zapadu stalo.

English: 
and I had two small children.
And this war was very dangerous for journalists also.
My first trip was in May of 1992.
My main interest was Sarajevo.
And it was the city that was besieged 
and it was how civilians were coping with the war.
I was really interested to see how people 
were able to live under siege for such a long period.
So I kept coming back.
As I said, I had a family.
I would come and go.
I often came not because it was a lot of happening,
but I thought it was important
to show my friends here and Sarajevans
that the West did care.

Bosnian: 
Sjećam se poslije prve zime u Sarajevu
gdje su ljudi stvarno patili.
Sarajlije su bile bijesne.
Bijesne na zapad.
Ljuti su bili na novinare, znate.
Šta se dešava?
Kako dopuštate da živimo opkoljeni toliko dugo?
Zašto se ništa ne dešava?
I mi smo se isto pitali,
ali smo bar mogli da napustimo.
To me podsjeti na komentar Don McCullin-a
da ne želi da bude upamćen kao ratni fotograf.
Ja stvarno ne volim taj naziv ‘ratna fotografija’
i ne mislim da su fotografi krivi za to.
Ljudi su ti koji žele da ih kategorišu
kad kažu on je ratni fotograf.

English: 
I remember after the first winter in Sarajevo 
where people had really suffered
and Sarajevans were mad.
They were mad with the West.
They were mad with the journalists, you know.
What’s going on?
How can you let us live
in this besieged city for so long?
Why is nothing happening?
And we had the same questions
but we were able to leave.
And this, kind of, brings to mind
the comment of Don McCullin
I not wanting to be remembered as a war photographer.
I think, I really don’t like 
this appellation war photography
and I don’t think photographers
are the guilty ones of this.
It’s the people who are trying to categorize them
you know, to say this guy is a war photographer.

Bosnian: 
Za mene je to 'réducteur',
to umanjuje ono što mi stvarno
radimo kao fotografi.
Pokrivati rat i nije baš tako teško,
a napraviš nevjerovatne fotografije.
Jeste opasno,
ali i dosta zabavno.
Lagano je uslikati moćne slike.
Kao novinar, ja ne pokušavam da odredim
ko je u pravu, a ko u krivu.
Ja želim da razumijem šta se dešava.
I jedini način na koji to možeš
da uradiš jeste da budeš sa ljudima.
I naravno, u slučaju Sarajeva,
gdje očigledno imate jedan grad
i njegove građane pod opsadom vojske
koja ih je opkolila.
Nema tu dileme ko je u pravu, a ko u krivu.

English: 
To me, this is a very 'réducteur'.
It diminishes what we really do as photographers.
Covering a war is not that difficult 
and it makes incredible pictures.
It’s dangerous
but it’s also a lot of fun.
And it’s quite easy to make strong images.
As a journalist I'm not trying to determine
 who is right who is wrong.
I'm trying to understand what's going on.
And the only way you can do that
is to be with the people.
And of course in the case of Sarajevo
where clearly you had a city
and civilians under siege by a surrounding force.
I mean there's no question who's right
and who's wrong you know.

English: 
So I don't feel like I have to come
over to the Serbian side.
Hey what are you guys doing?
Sniping people down in the streets
and throwing mortars and stuff like that.
I mean that's pretty clear and I think that's where…
And you know at the time CNN was here.
Christiane Amanpour was a young reporter
and she was very much criticized in the West
about becoming kind of an advocate of
we we got to do something about this city.
And this idea of advocacy journalism
which in the West was at the time was not really
something that was considered professionally correct.
You know, you tell the story,
just objective and this kind of thing.
I have a lot of difficulty
with the idea of images that we see

Bosnian: 
Ja nisam osjećao potrebu
da dolazim ovdje na Srpsku stranu.
Hej, šta to radite?
Snajperom ubijate ljude dole po ulici,
bacate granate... i takve stvari.
Mislim da je to jasno i mislim da…
I znate, CNN je tada bio tu.
Christiane Amanpour je bila mlada reporterka
i bila je izložena kritikama na zapadu
zato što je zagovarala
znate, da se nešto uradi za ovaj grad.
I ta ideja novinarskog zagovaranja
koje u to vrijeme na zapadu
nije bilo baš profesionalno prihvatljivo.
Znate, samo ispričate priču, objektivno, i to je to.
Meni je jako teško kad vidim fotografije danas

English: 
and then nothing happens.
No action.
I mean because that's supposed to be
why we're doing this right.
I mean that's supposed to be why we want to intervene
in people's lives because we want to show the tragedy
we want to show the hardship,
we want to show these things that are happening
hopefully so that something is going to change.
And you know I think that the picture of Alan [Kurdi],
the little Syrian boy on the Mediterranean Sea.
Did that have much impact?
I mean hasn't changed anything in terms of
how we are dealing with the war in Syria?
I mean they're just any number
of examples like that.
Maybe I'm being naive

Bosnian: 
i na kraju se ništa ne desi.
Ništa se ne poduzme.
A to bi trebalo da bude zbog čega ovo i radimo.
Mislim, to je razlog zašto bi mi trebali da se mješamo
u ljudske živote, zato što želimo
da pokažemo njihovu tragediju.
želimo da pokažemo patnju,
želimo da pokažemo stvari koje se dešavaju
u nadi da će se nešto promjeniti.
I znate onu sliku Alana Kurdija,
malog sirijskog dječaka na Sredozemnom moru.
Da li je to imalo ikakvog utjecaja?
Da li se nešto promjenilo
u smislu kako se bavimo ratom u Siriji?
Mislim da ima puno takvih primjera.
Možda sam naivan

English: 
maybe this, you know, I'm I'm expecting too much.
I don't know, you know.
But I'm glad I had the opportunity of doing what I did
then as opposed to somebody starting out today.
For me It's very depressing.
This picture I took in September of 92
of this woman trying to take cover
from a mortar shell at Marshall Tito Street.
Which is just sort of daily things
that happened in Sarajevo during that time.
Cars on fire and you know
people running for fear of sniper fire.
This civilian resilience to this aggression,
you know, that I find most interesting.

Bosnian: 
Možda očekujem previše.
Ne znam.
Ali mi je drago da sam imao priliku da radim to što radim
onda, a ne da tek sada započinjem svoju karijeru.
Za mene je to jako depresivno.
Ovu sam fotografiju napravio u
 septembru 1992. godine.
Žena koja pokušava da se sakrije od granata
na ulici Maršala Tita.
Ovo je bila svakodnevnica tokom opsade Sarajeva.
Auta gore, ljudi se boje da ih snajper ne pogodi.
Ono što je meni jako zanimljivo jeste
ta otpornost običnih ljudi na svu tu agresiju.

English: 
I’m interested in the human experience
and my relationship to that
because, I think, everything I do
it’s a trip, a journey in this world
until the day comes
when we're no longer here.
You know, an attempt to understand
what we're doing here, why we're here.
This kind of a thing.

Bosnian: 
Mene zanimaju ljudska iskustva
i moj odnos prema tome,
zato što, ja mislim, da sve što radim je put,
putovanje svijetom
sve dok ne dođe dan kada više ne budemo ovdje.
Pokušaj da shvatim šta mi zapravo radimo ovdje,
zašto smo ovdje.
Takve stvari.
