The science that this organization has produced
is fast food science.
It has massive methological flaws.
It doesn't have a real control group,
so the direct data is useless and non-existent.
What's wonderful is that this is a comprehensive program.
You talk about diet and fitness,
and skills and communication and
I think that's all very beautiful,
however can we really tell this program,
with all of the different strings that it comes with
as evidence based?
What is the evidence?
(suspenseful tones)
I think this is a little unfair to say
that the research that's been produced by Harvard
is going to be something that we should just
you know throw away.
You keep saying that the study that was done at Harvard.
And the reality of it is that
the study hasn't been published.
It just recently completed, so yes and it does
have a control group, but it's not published, yes.
But again, that's misleading, that's misleading and
unfortunately consumers are not aware of that.
They don't know that once you submit a manuscript
that it takes a very long time for a peer group
to review it and determine the validity of this research.
So when you say that this research has been completed
by Harvard, consumers are going to think,
and desperate helpless parents are going to think,
wow this program was researched by Harvard,
and that is just not an accurate claim.
And what we're trying to say is,
well okay I hear that your children did well.
And that's what we want.
We definitely want.
We want every single child to do well.
However, is it exactly the program that contributed
to the improvements, or are there other variables
that resulted in the decrease in symptoms
that you're seeing.
And when you are saying that this is a drug free ADHD
solution, there were the majority of the people
that you guys researched were on medication.
While they were going through your study.
So how can you make a claim that this is a
drug free solution?
To clarify a couple pieces, certainly again
not trying to be misleading saying that its published.
The study recently concluded,
again it was so exciting to see substantiation
of what we're seeing play out in real life.
We have an eight-five percent parent satisfaction rate.
And at the end of the day to have a child be able
to feel and tell the difference within themselves,
to have parents and teachers
notice the difference is wonderful.
Its not the end all be all.
We need the science to support the anecdote,
and we agree with that.
So again we're not trying to say that what we've done
up until this point is exactly were we wanna be,
we're here right now with an eighty-five percent
parent satisfaction rate with so many incredible stories.
And a focus on, we put together an interdisciplinary board,
made up off neurologists, medical doctors, psychologists,
psychiatrists so that we can continue to evolve.
To continue with the rigorous research
to the degree and level we'd like it to be.
So again, not trying to make any misleading claims,
we when we say non-drug,
we're not medical, we're not here to
diagnose, we're not here to prescribe medication.
We are a comprehensive program, where we're engaging
your senses, your muscles, body coordination
healthy lifestyle, healthy nutrition.
There's not a risk or downside to that,
and we're seeing great results.
So spending a lot of money is a downside.
I think Travis you made the clear point
which is there's a clear choice for parents.
Do you want to make a very expensive bet on
something that has really seriously no serious science
behind it on a whim that it might work based on
some evidence, do it.
And if you don't wanna spend
ten or twelve thousand to do it,
then that's your choice.
I definitely did not spend ten or twelve thousand dollars.
I mean I think it depends on the person,
like how long your child is going to be in the program,
What's your main price for a 6 month's trial.
Not the case, I don't know how much it is for...
Right now it's about a hundred and fifty dollars per hour.
A hundred and fifty per hour.
The consumer needs to know that going in.
I mean its their right to spend their money
the way they want to,
and if they've tried other things
or frustrated, but there has to be you know
complete openness, transparency
in the science that's being suggested.
The role of science...
