CAITLYN JENNER GOT WAY MORE THAN
SHE BARGAINED FOR SATURDAY
NIGHT.
SHE WENT TO AN EVENT AT L.A.'S
LGBT CENTER.
I BELIEVE IT WAS A CHORAL
PERFORMANCE.
AFTER WARD SHE WAS STANDING
AROUND WITH SOME FRIENDS AND A
WOMAN WALKED UP TO HER AND IT
TURNED INTO A TONGUE LASHING
OVER A LOT OF ISSUES BUT THE
CENTRAL ONE BEING, I THINK,
DONALD TRUMP.
CHECK THIS OUT.
>> [BEEP].
[BEEP] YOU CAN TELL
[INDISCERNIBLE] COMMUNITY AND
YOU -- THAT'S NOT [BEEP]
>> YOU DON'T KNOW --
>> YES, I DO.
THE POPE [BEEP] OH, MY GOD, OH,
MY GOD.
NO, NO, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> YOU'RE BLEACH --
CHARLES: LISTEN, WE'VE HEARD IN
THE PAST THEY WERE PEOPLE WHO
EXPRESSED THAT SENTIMENT BUT
NONE WHO HAVE GONE RIGHT UP TO
CAITLYN AND SAID IT IN HER FACE.
JOINING US RIGHT NOW IS ASHTON
MARIE PRESTON, THE ONE WHO WENT
AFTER CAITLYN.
THANKS FOR BEING ON "TMZ LIVE."
HOW YOU DOING?
>> I'M WELL YOU -- WELL, THANK
YOU.
CHARLES: DID YOU KNOW CAITLYN
WAS GOING TO BE THERE AND
SOMETHING YOU'D WANTED TO SAY TO
HER?
>> I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS GOING
TO BE THERE.
ACTUALLY MYSELF AND A MAJOR
DONOR TOLD THAWS CAITLYN HAD
BEEN UNINVITED AND WHEN I SAW
HER THROUGH THE DOOR, I FELT
VERY CAUGHT OFF GUARD.
HARVEY: CAITLYN HAS SAID SHE
DISAVOWS ANY SUPPORT FOR TRUMP
AND THINKS SHE'S AWFUL NOW.
WHY DO YOU SAY SHE STILL
SUPPORTS HIM?
>> BECAUSE SHE STILL SUPPORTS
HIS IDEOLOGY.
BY THE FACT THAT SHE'S TONE DEAF
AND IGNORANT TO THE EXPERIENCES
OF TRANCE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND
PEOPLE OF COLOR IN GENERAL.
THE FACT THAT SHE CONTINUES TO
STILL ROCK THE MERCHANDISE LIKE
ROCKING THROUGH HOLLYWOOD WITH
THE MAKE AMERICA GREAT HAT ON
AGAIN AND --
HARVEY: SHE APOLOGIZED FOR THAT.
SHE SAID THAT WAS A STUPID
MISTAKE.
SHE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE HAT
HAD THE EMPOLICEMEN ON IT.
>> HERE'S THE DEAL.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP
IT VERY TOP LINE FOR YOU.
THE PROBLEM THAT THE TRANSGENDER
COMMUNITY HAS WITH CAITLYN
JENNER IS THAT SHE CAME INTO OUR
COMMUNITY TO MAKE US INTO AN
EXTENSION -- EXTENSION OF THE
KARDASHIAN BRAND.
SHE TRIED TO CO-OP THE TRANS
MOVEMENT AND MAKE IT INTO AN
EXTENSION OF SOMETHING IT ISN'T
AND SHE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE COMMUNITY
DOING ALL THIS WORK FOR SO MANY
YEARS.
SHE NEVER APOLOGIZED TO THE
TRANS COMMUNITY FOR WHAT SHE DID
DURING THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
ALL SHE REALLY DID WAS REACH
INTO HER BRA, TAKE OUT CHANGE
AND THROW IT AT US.
HARVEY: I HAVE A CONNECTION TO
THE LGBT CENTER.
A LONG-STANDING ONE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ITCH
TAKEN FROM MY EXPERIENCES IS
THAT PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE
DIFFERENT VIEWS, WHICH IS THE
VERY REASON FOR THE EXISTENCE OF
THAT CENTER, THAT, YOU KNOW,
TOLERANCE.
AND IF PEOPLE DON'T SHARE THE
EXACT SAME VIEW, IS THERE
SOMETHING KIND OF PARADOXICAL
THAT YOU GO AFTER THE PERSON
BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHARE YOUR
VIEW?
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT THE VIEW.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE
HIGHEST FORM OF HUGH MAIN
ONTARIO FRAUD.
YOU -- HUMANITARIAN FRAUD.
YOU ARE PRETENDING TO BE A GATE
KEEPER AND A COMMUNITY THAT HAS
EVICTED -- EVICTED YOU THE
MOMENT THAT YOU DECIDED TO
ENDORSE TRUMP AND PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
HARVEY: CAN'T THEY BE A
REPUBLICAN?
>> THEY CAN.
WHAT TAYE CAN'T DO IS BE
CONNECTED TO A PARTY WE'RE NOT
INVOLVED WITH.
CHARLES: WOULD YOU TRY TO TALK
TO CAITLYN AND GET HER TO
UNDERSTAND THAT?
>> UNLIKE THE VIDEO STATEMENT
THAT SHE MADE THAT YOU DON'T --
SHE COULDN'T EVEN GET IT OUT OF
HER MOUTH BECAUSE IT WAS SO
LOADED WITH CRAP.
I DO KNOW CAITLYN JENNER AND
HAVE SPOKEN TO HER.
IN FACT, I WAS STILL FRIENDS
WITH HER AFTER SHE HAD MADE THE
DECISION TO ENDORSE THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
THAT I SAID BECAUSE SHE'S NEW IN
TRANSITION, SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO
SHE IS SO IN THE SAME WAY SHE'S
EVOLVED IN SELF-EXPRESSION,
SHE'S EVOLVING WITH HER
POLITICAL VIEWS.
I TOOK A SWING AT IT BUT YOU
WILL NOT CONTINUE TO PARK
YOURSELF IN THE SAME SPACES THAT
ARE DESIGNATED FOR THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE HARMED BILL YOUR
DECISIONS.
HARVEY: OK.
CHARLES: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING WITH US.
AND GOOD LOOK GOING FORWARD.
