PLAY SEPARATELY ARE SNIPPETS OF
TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS.
THEY WERE RECORDED IN 2018 AND
2019.
I SHOULD SAY WE WERE NOT
PROVIDED WITH THE FULL
RECORDINGS.
WE CAN HEAR MARYANN BARRY AND
MARY TRUMP DISCUSSING IVANKA
TRUMP ON THE CHILD SEPARATION
POLICY.
>> WHEN THAT DAMN IVANKA PUTS
THIS PICTURE OF THE MADONNA AND
CHILD ON INSTAGRAM WHEN THE BIG
NEWS OF THE DAY WAS HOW KIDS ARE
BEING RIPPED FROM THEIR
FAMILIES.
I COULDNT BLAME -- ID NEVER
HEARD OF SAMANTHA BEE BEFORE.
I COULDNT BLAME WHAT SHE SAID.
>> IN THAT RECORDING, MARYANN
TRUMP WAS SLAM SAMANTHA BEE
AFTER SHE POSTED THIS IMAGE OF
HERSELF AND HER CHILD AT THE
SAME TIME THE COUNTRY WAS
LEARNING THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION WAS SEPARATING
MIGRANT CHILDREN FROM THEIR
FAMILIES.
NOW, THE NEXT CLIP YOURE ABOUT
TO HEAR, MARY TRUMP AND HER AUNT
TALK ABOUT ERIC AND IVANKAS
AMBITIONS.
>> MEANWHILE, ERICS BECOME THE
MORON PUBLICLY.
IVANKA GIVES A [ BLEEP ].
SHES ALL ABOUT HER.
>> YEAH, SHES A MINI DONALD.
>> SHES A MINI DONALD, BUT YET
HES BESOTTED WITH HER.
HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
SHES ALWAYS BEEN HIS FAVORITE.
>> WE ALSO HEAR WHAT MARYANN
THINKS ABOUT HER BROTHER DONALD.
>> AND THEN YOU GET DONALD WHO
WONT DO ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY
UNLESS ITS GOING TO INURE TO
HIS -- I MEAN, HE WONT DO
ANY -- PUBLICLY.
I MEAN, IF YOU -- ANYTHING HE
DID, HE SAYS, LOOK WHAT IVE
DONE.
ARENT I WONDERFUL.
AND HES AS TIGHT AS A DUCKS
ASS.
JUST LIKE DAD WAS, REALLY.
>> NOW, WEVE REACHED OUT TO
MARYANN TRUMP BARRY FOR COMMENT
BUT HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
IM NOW JOINED BY MARY TRUMP,
DONALD TRUMPS NIECE AND AUTHOR
OF "TOO MUCH AND NEVER ENOUGH,"
THE BEST-SELLING BOOK.
ITS SOLD MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
OF COPIES.
MARY TRUMP, ITS NICE TO TALK TO
YOU AGAIN AND THANKS FOR BEING
ON WITH US TO UNPACK THE
CONVENTION.
IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, THE
CONVENTION, I SHOULD SAY.
>> IT WAS, INDEED.
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT
>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT
TO KNOW WHAT TIGHT AS A DUCKS
POSTERIOR -- WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN?
>> IT JUST MEANS REALLY CHEAP.
ITS A LITTLE MORE COLORFUL.
>> SO DONALD TRUMP REALLY PUT ON
A SHOW OF HIS FAMILY, REALLY
PUSHED THE ADULT CHILDREN
FORWARD, EVEN TIFFANY PUSHED
THEM ALL OUT FORWARD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PURPOSE OF
DOING THAT WAS THIS WEEK?
>> I THINK IT WAS TWOFOLD.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS, ON THE ONE
HAND, TO SHOW HIM AS A GREAT
FAMILY MAN, AND ON THE OTHER
FAMILY MAN, AND ON THE OTHER
HAND, IT WAS A NOT-SO-SUBTLE
FAINT TOWARD A MONARCHIAL
PROFESSION, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW
HE DOES THAT WITH CONSIDERABLE
AMOUNTS OF HIS PARTY.
>> RIGHT.
YOU SAW JOE BIDEN BEING LAUDED
BY HIS FRIENDS AND HIS FAMILY
AND HOW MUCH LOVE THERE WAS IN
THE BIDEN FAMILY, AND ALSO
KAMALA HARRISS SISTER SENT HER
UP.
MAYBE THE KIDS GOT IN ON IT.
THERE WAS A PART IN THE
PRESENTATION WHERE IVANKA TRUMP
TALKS ABOUT HER SON BUILDING A
REPLICA OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND
THAT IT BEING DISPLAYED BY
GRANDDAD IN THE OVAL OFFICE,
WHICH ISNT LIKE A DONALD
TRUMP-SOUNDING THING LIKE HE
MIGHT DO.
AND SOME REPUBLICAN FRIENDS
SAID, WAIT A MINUTE, DIDNT SHE
TELL THAT EXACT SAME STORY ABOUT
HERSELF, SAYING THAT WHEN SHE
WAS 13, SHE MADE A REPLICA OF
TRUMP TOWER AND TRUMP PUT IT IN
HIS OFFICE.
DO YOU SUSPECT THAT MAYBE THAT
STORY WAS A RECYCLE?
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> FIRST OF ALL, FROM WHAT I
UNDERSTAND, NOT ONLY WAS THAT
STORY IVANKA TOLD DEBUNKED, SHE
ADMITTED THAT IT WASNT TRUE,
AND IT WAS ALSO LIFTED FROM A
STORY TOLD IN "THE ART OF THE
DEAL" ABOUT WHEN DONALD
ALLEGEDLY STOLE ROBERTS BLOCKS
AND GLUED THEM TOGETHER, WHICH,
FRIND
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IS ALSO
PROBABLY NOT TRUE.
I GUESS GLUING CHILDRENS
BUILDING BLOCKS TOGETHER IS
GENETIC, I DONT KNOW, BUT ITS
REMARKABLE HOW SIMILAR THE
STORIES ARE.
>> IT IS.
LET ME PLAY ANOTHER BITE, AND
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING US WITH
THIS AUDIO.
HERE IS THE CONVERSATION THAT
YOU HAD WITH YOUR AUNT ABOUT THE
D.R.E.A.M.ers.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> WELL, WHAT HE DID WITH THE
DREAMERS.
I MEAN --
>> GOD, THATS --
>> I AM SO MUCH IN SUPPORT.
NO, BUT HE CHANGED HIS -- BUT HE
DENIES IT.
HE MEAN, HE WOULD DENY HE
CHANGED HIS MIND.
>> OF COURSE HE DID.
WELL, ITS JUST LIKE WITH THE
KIDS WHO ARE NOW IN
CONCENTRATION CAMPS DOWN IN
TEXAS, HE IS BLAMING THE
DEMOCRATS FOR IT.
IT IS DEMT KRATS HORRIBLE
POLICY SO WHICH SUGDSGESTS THAT
THINKS ITS A BAD THING AND YET
HE IS ALLOWING IT TO CONTINUE.
YOUR AUNT USED TO BE A JUDGE.
WAS THIS RECORDED WHILE SHE WAS
STILL A JUDGE?
>> YES, BUT SHES BEEN INACTIVE
FOR A WHILE.
I DONT BELIEVE AT THE TIME SHE
WAS ON THE BENCH.
>> IF SHES CALLING THEM
CONCENTRATION CAMPS, THAT SOUNDS
LIKE A PRETTY SEVERE THING.
ARE YOU SURPRISED SHE DIDNT GO
PUBLIC SINCE SHES GOT A
JUDICIAL BACKGROUND.
DOES IT SURPRISE YOU THAT SHE
DIDNT SAY ANYTHING PUBLICLY,
ONLY SAYING IT TO YOU?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, NO, IT DOESNT
SURPRISE ME.
SHE SUBSCRIBES TO THE SAME
NOTION OF FAMILY LOYALTY THAT
HER SIBLINGS DO.
>> LETS PLAY ANOTHER PIECE.
THIS ONE, I THINK, IS
SIGNIFICANT.
ASIDE FROM THE CONTROVERSY WITH
JERRY FALWELL, JR., ET CETERA,
HIS EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS ARE
REALLY HIS BASE.
AND HERE IS A CONVERSATION WITH
YOURSELF AND YOUR AUNT ABOUT
TRUMP AND GOD.
>> THE ONLY TIME DONALD WENT TO
CHURCH THAT I KNOW OF, AT LEAST
WHEN DAD WASNT BRINGING US
EVERY SUNDAY, WAS --
>> WHEN HE GOT MARRIED.
>> YES, AND OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS, WHEN THE CAMERAS
WERE AT THE CHURCH.
>> EXACTLY.
>> SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE,
INCLUDING YOUR DAD, THEY WERE
BROUGHT TO CHURCH, THE FAMILY,
EVERY SUNDAY.
WAS THIS THE POWER OF POSITIVE
THINKING CHURCH, OR WAS IT A
THINKING CHURCH, OR WAS IT A
MAINLINE SORT OF PROTESTANT
CHURCH?
>> I HONESTLY DONT KNOW HOW
OFTEN THEY ATTENDED CHURCH.
I DONT BELIEVE IT WAS EVERY
SUNDAY, CERTAINLY NOT WHEN THEY
WERE OLDER.
AS FAR AS I CAN RECOLLECT, MY
FATHER JOINED THE PARISH CHURCH
WITH THE GUY FROM THE MID-50s.
I NEVER GOT THE IMPRESSION IN
THA
-- THAT ANY OF THEM WERE
PARTICULARLY RELIGIOUS OR
CHURCHGOING.
>> DID YOU EVER HEAR YOUR UNCLE
TALK ABOUT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE?
WHAT WERE HIS THOUGHTS BEFORE HE
GOT INTO POLITICS AND NEEDED HIS
VOTES ABOUT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE,
ABOUT CHRISTIANS?
>> HE DOESNT HAVE ANY.
HE HAS NO CONNECTION TO RELIGION
OR FAITH THAT IM AWARE OF.
YOU KNOW, HES QUITE GOOD AT
FINDING WHAT, IN HIS WORDS, HE
WOULD CALL SUCKERS.
SO AS WEVE SEEN, UNFORTUNATELY,
