Before we go any further, we have
to talk about the OJ Simpson thing.
I don't know how many people
have been watching it, and
I was talking to Ryan Murphy the other day
and he's surprised by the success of it.
He couldn't believe how successful
this is, because it's a true story but
then to see it.
How many years ago did it happen?
>> Well, it's 1994.
>> Wow, so.
>> Yeah, 22 years ago.
>> 22, that would be the math.
>> Yeah.
>> And then-
>> [LAUGH]
>> They're all just sitting there going.
>> I think it's so popular with everybody
too, because a whole other generation
is watching this,
some people for the first time.
>> So Selma is playing you?
>> Yes, Selma Blair.
>> Is playing you, and
David Schwimmer is playing your-
>> Robert Kardashian.
>> Your ex-husband.
How long have you all been
divorced when this happened?
>> We got divorced about three years.
>> Before that?
>> Yeah.
>> And you were good friends with Nicole?
>> Yes.
>> So for
those of you who don't know the story,
OJ Simpson was accused of
killing Nicole Simpson.
You were good friends with her, but
you didn't even realize that
there was abuse going on?
>> I didn't know that there
was abuse until we saw
the whole thing unfold like everybody
else and then heard the 911 tapes that
had been, many of them, which were
gonna be used as evidence in the trial.
So it's [CROSSTALK] heartbreaking.
>> I can't believe that she was your
friend and she didn't [CROSSTALK] say to
you, I'm in trouble and
I need to get away from this guy.
>> Me and some of her other close
friends all were really surprised and
shocked by that, because we felt like
we really failed her as a friend.
You go through this and you discover
things about somebody and it was horrible.
Although she and I were supposed
to have lunch the next day,
the day after she was murdered, and
she said she wanted to show me some things
and talk about what was in her safe.
And so now, unfortunately, it all makes
sense that that's probably what she
wanted to reveal to me that next day,
which broke my heart because I'll always
feel horrible that I didn't
pay enough attention.
>> How did you find out
that she was murdered?
>> Her mom called me.
I had known OJ since I was 17 years old.
When I met Robert I met OJ.
So that was a very long time ago,
so he was like a big brother to me.
And that morning I was coming back
from taking the kids to school,
and I was supposed to meet Nicole.
I was gonna change and go meet her.
And the phone rang, and
my assistant said Judy's on the phone.
And I said,
tell her I'll call her right back,
and then she talked to Judy for a second.
She goes, no,
you really need to take the call.
And I picked up the phone and
she actually said Nicole's been shot.
And I said, what?
I said, okay, I'm on my way.
Where do I go?
And she said, no, she didn't make it.
And I said, what do you mean she's been?
And that was the information that
Judy had at that very moment in time.
And that was very early in the morning.
>> Yeah, wow.
And I know that that was really tough cuz
then Robert was kind of supporting him and
on his side.
And then slowly he realized there was way
too much evidence, it was very clear.
It's really interesting to look back,
too, for
me, to see how Marsha Clark was treated,
because she was the person who was trying
to prosecute him, and she was so amazing.
And they just tore her apart
because she was a woman.
>> Yeah.
>> Did OJ ever try to reach
out to you at all?
>> Right after, yeah.
He called me a few times, and
wanted to talk and explain how he felt.
>> Mm-hm, all right,
you don't wanna talk about that.
But that must have been really awkward.
>> It was painfully,
it was just the whole entire,
every single day it was
something different.
And it was very difficult because
my ex-husband was on one side and
I was kind of on the other.
The kids were in the middle, and
it was trying to explain this to
children and then OJ had called.
And I lost, everybody lost so
much that night.
It was, you lost everything
you knew as far as your,
I can't even imagine being her family,
her sisters.
Her parents were so devastated and
all of us friends were completely-
>> If you haven't,
I'm sure that there’s a way to
catch up if you haven't started.
It's a fascinating thing to watch.
It’s a ten-part series.
It's amazing.
