WORD AND DEED
Let it be the day. Andrei Fefelov is on the air
together with writer Dmitry Peretolchin,
and our today's topic is psychiatry and Freud.
More generally, we're going to discuss
the phenomenon of modern psychiatry
as some quasi-religious foundation
of so-called "New World Order".
New World Order is something
that we try to investigate as far as possible.
Not everything is available to us, not everything
can be known but some contours of this formation
more and more stand out from the haze.
Still we've got open sources of information
as well as methods of analysis.
So, Dmitry, by and large the foundation
of modern psychiatry and psychoanalysis and pretty much all the methods of psychotherapy can be traced back
to the theory and practice of Sigmund Freud.
Freud's a rather dark horse, he's rather sketchy,
he's not so well-known, like, more surrounded
with myths and some generalities but his origin
and that of his theories is quite fuzzy, so to say.
It's also known that the legacy of Freud
isn't available to the masses, like, his letters
are kept in the US Congress Library,
and they are still classified, under seal.
Freud himself asked to keep them classified
till 2000 but now it's 2016, and no one is going
to present them to the world. Why so?
When we were talking about the program,
I was thinking to first finish about Hollywood,
like, Hollywood as a political instrument
is quite a well-known topic.
If we talk about Hollywood
as an instrument of society manipulation,
they'd start saying it's all conspiracy crap,
like, it has nothing to do with reality.
Like, I had an interview with Bortko,
he said, like, you just don't love America,
that's why you claim that all films are
censored there, so it's understandable.
Actually, if you see it separately from everything,
you can say that something just appears to you
but if you step back and see the involvement
of Edward Bernays, Freud's nephew, with Hollywood
or, say, Kurt Lewin's or Lippmann's with his propaganda,
it all in one way or another has to do with Freud.
It all started with Freud or, actually,
it goes back more in time - we'll get there slowly -
when Benjamin Disraeli announced Darwin's book
and said, like, now we've got a choice:
between animal and Divine origin of man,
and we gotta be held responsible for this choice.
And this succession between them
is confirmed by Freud himself
when in his article of... 1917
he wrote that three blows were made
at human pride, actually humanness.
Like, first man was knocked out
from the cosmological center of the world,
it was the first step followed with Darwin's theory
of animal origin of man, and the third blow
was made by Freud who said that human "I"
didn't actually belong to him but rather to some "It".
So Freud's figure is quite interesting,
and he's not really a dark horse
since he's been studied quite well
meaning there are 4-5 books about him,
and all of them give a detailed account.
So these are basically
research papers about his life, right?
Why? Freud had a few biographers,
so his life has been rather well described,
and such a gross hardcore is there
so you don't know what else can be added.
But in reality biographers would say, like,
yes, we write all these things but the history
of psychoanalysis is all emasculated.
- Meaning cocaine and all these oddities...
- Yeah, we're getting there, we're gonna do it slowly.
With all that gross hardcore
known about Freud, his biography
is still emasculated, they say.
So you can only imagine
what was left out from there.
Meaning probably we should start off -
if we do it gradually - from the fact
that Freud is actually no Freud.
Freud is "joy" in German,
so he thought it up himself,
his real last name is Schlomo.
His mother was almost Odessian,
like, she spent her youth in Odessa,
and she called him Sigismund,
so we've got Sigismund Schlomo.
But since "Sigismund" was a hero
of German jokes about Jews,
Freud called himself Sigmund.
- When he was being admitted...
- Almost Siegfried.
When he was admitted into a medical school,
he was already Sigmund Freud.
Interestingly enough, his tuition was paid
by two private Jewish funds, so here we have
a dark story right from the beginning 'cause
from his student years he'd deal with the elite,
and he was a member of a secret society,
by the way, together with Theodore Herzl.
That's interesting...
There are many interesting things, like,
upon graduating the medical school
he didn't become a medical worker,
it's a generally known fact.
First of all, he was afraid of blood.
During the first and the last surgery he took part in
he'd faint, and they'd give him whiskey or some other
strong alcoholic drink to put him on his legs.
By the way, they screwed the face
of this lady [patient] for good, they thought
that sexuality has to do with nose,
so they tried to fix her nose
but  in the end it was a disaster.
So it's an episode from his medical biography,
and since then he had nothing to do
with the medicine as we understand it.
He really screwed it up...
Freud was unfit for practicing medicine,
there are just fit and unfit people,
like, as a medical worker he was good
for nothing right from the beginning.
Another interesting thing:
afterwards he studied... to the point,
he never realized himself as a doctor,
and his "professor" title was exchanged
by an Austrian baroness - forgot her name -
for a painting from an Austrian minister,
that's how he became a doctor.
So he had a kind of fun-club
from aristocracy, didn't he?
Slowly but verily we're getting there,
there are many interesting things, like,
he started off learning hypnosis from Charcot.
[Jean-Martin] Charcot didn't just invent his shower,
he'd also entertain rich aristocracy by hypnotizing it,
like, he'd have big gatherings and put people into the state
of complete motionlessness - it's called catatonia, I guess -
this way getting public entertained.
Meaning it was some secret knowledge
which many would strongly gravitate to,
like, what controls man if he can be controlled...
by the way, the whole business of psychiatry
comes from - I'm getting there slowly - the desire
to subliminally manipulate the masses.
So Freud goes there to learn hypnosis,
and doesn't tell anyone that he got this skill,
like, that he learned it from Charcot.
So after these lessons in hypnosis
he writes a few works on such topic
as birth control, actually.
Later it'd entwine with all other things,
I'm just now making a point that
he started off from the birth control.
It has pretty far-reaching ramifications,
not sure if to tell it now or do it later,
I'll try to describe one of offshoots of this interest.
One of Freud's students
is former nurse Emma Goldman.
Not really sure if she's any famous.
- No?
- No.
She's also from Lithuania,
she moved to America, later she was deported
since she was engaged into revolutionary activities.
Interestingly enough, she'd publish
feminist magazines and stand on feminist positions,
it's one of the offshoots of Freudianism, by the way.
And she nurtured Margaret Sanger,
that very woman who organized
The Birth Control League which later turned
into The Central Family Planning Institute.
She also taught Ernst Rüdin who, together with
Adolf [Alfred] Ploetz organized The German Society
for Racial Hygiene engaged in all kinds of racial
and eugenic programs of the Third Reich.
So it reaches that far, and we gotta understand
why Freud took interest in it at all.
The thing is that psychoanalysis originally
had been a purely Jewish science.
Here I'll just refer to [Carl] Jung
who said, like, I just emphasized this fact
and was accused of antisemitism whereas
it's as antisemitic, impolite and anti-scientific
as stating like, there's Chinese philosophy
and being blamed for being anti-Chinese.
Like, no one blames anyone
who says that Feng Shui is a Chinese thing,
in the same way psychoanalysis was,
so to speak, some inner Jewish science.
Why so?
It has to do with Freud himself,
he had lots of... Jung pointed that out
Freud apparently suffered from a neurosis,
it was quite easy to establish it,
and symptoms were rather unpleasant.
Meaning Freud had a rather strong complex,
and it has to do with a family story:
his uncle was a counterfeiter, he was caught,
he might have served in prison, can't say
but he was caught for sure for making false money.
Besides, his nephews were imbeciles
whereas at that time idea of eugenics prevailed.
This family imbecility was
a marker of degeneration,
and with all these eugenic theories
it gave rise to the complex.
And given then-existing antisemitism
- apprehension of Jews had been always there -
Jews were being presented as bearers
of pathological heredity.
But Freud's theory actually argues
that it's not about the heredity but rather
 childhood experiences and all that stuff,
so it was an attempt to build
an antithesis to eugenic theories.
Coming back to the first offshoot,
it's Freudian all around, later, perhaps,
I'll get to the Third Reich and its psychiatry,
I'd show the way it developed,
like, it's rooted there [in Freudianism]
The second offshoot went to childhood experiences
developed extensively by his student Wilhelm Reich,
one of the founders of so-called sexual revolution in the US.
By the way, his work is dedicated... -
again, we'd make parallels with the Third Reich -
so he writes about fascism as a non-social
construction meaning something biologically
wired, like, everyone who suppresses
his sexuality in childhood is a fascist.
That was his post-war theory but he himself
had some real personal issues in the childhood,
like, his mom was cheating on his dad,
he knew that, the dad set the son against the mom,
and the mom ended up poisoning herself;
so Wilhelm Reich grew as a mentally disturbed child.
Having fled or rather got to the United States
he started writing books in which
he strongly argues against suppressing sexuality
since, according to him, it leads to fascism.
Later, he was busy creating "argon energy",
he made a sort of... argon generator,
not sure how to call this device,
he worked with Einstein, by the way.
That speaks about Einstein as a scientist.
Meaning Wilhelm Reich eventually was put to jail
for all his machinations with the argon box
accumulating sexual energy from the air.
- Basically he was jailed for swindling.
- Yeah.
I'm not sure if he ended his days in prison
but he was doing some time in jail,
and Einstein, like, a great scientist,
gingerly stepped away from it all.
Probably, he [Einstein] had removed himself
before it came to all these boxes.
Probably, it was just the common employer,
not the scientific environment or,
like, pseudo-scientific environment.
You gotta uncoil it gradually, and we'll get to the point
when it's all reduced to some banal sociology,
like, there are some offshoots in psychiatry
which were commercialized, like, public relations.
But it was also used in a non-commercial way
 like killing the American medicine, like, last year's September,
just a few months back, another machination was exposed
when a psychiatrist - I don't remember her name -
defrauded the American medical program of $158 millions.
I think they caught this one fraud but it's been actually
going for years, it's a whole system of pumping out
budget money for psychiatrists, psychologists, etc.,
provided that the American system of psychiatry
is like a religious organization, we'll get there too.
So if you do a psychotherapy course,
whether you get cured from something or not,
- it's pretty funny how it goes, I'll get there -
you also receive a certificate of psychiatrist,
and, in turn, can go out and help others.
And it all works as a network system
pumping out some real sums from the US budget,
and, as it also turns out, machinations are involved.
Besides, it's all supported by the state,
they'd lobby, like, the system of school psychologists,
and it was also introduced here [in Russia] after 1990.
We've got psychologists even in the army.
Well, psychologists, strange as it sounds,
 are probably needed in the army
but what are they doing in schools?
Like, in American schools they just
plainly prescribe anti-depressants.
We used to have zampolits [political officers],
so now we've got psychologists.
It's 'cause we gave up on the ideology,
people still have to be watched,
and we don't have a system of education
in the army teaching how to do it.
Meaning we didn't really have zampolits as I see it.
Social engineering is a subtle thing,
we'll be examining it step by step and we'll see
that it's not so simple, so to speak.
Like, gradually Freud moved from the birth control to drugs
meaning he worked officially for a company producing cocaine,
I watched about that in some documentary and I do suspect
that he worked for German company Merck.
Cocaine wasn't banned yet,
its dangerous properties were unknown,
so he started studying them or, perhaps,
he wanted to achieve something else?
Like, Merck was the first company
that learned how to make synthetic cocaine,
and it'd produce it on a mass scale,
like, they'd add it to children's cereals,
nutritional supplements, medicine, etc.,
they tried to find many uses for cocaine.
So Freud was busy promoting it,
like, first of all, he'd gobble up cocaine
 himself in great quantities, so he didn't just
write a book and articles about cocaine.
There's a quote, I'll try to read it:
"Cocaine will oust other drugs and become
the scourge of the 20th century for the country.
Almost 100 years ago Dr. Sigmund Freud
created a cocaine frenzy in the US
proclaiming it a stimulant of sexual desire."
Guy Gugliotta, Jeff Leen, "Kings of Cocaine".
So it was very actively promoted,
people would be hooked on it,
and it's not the fact that they didn't knew
it was an addictive substance.
There were many things back then
which wouldn't get into the spotlight, like,
a company, Merck it seems, discovered Ecstasy,
it was in 1890s, and it was a transition byproduct
between something and something.
And only later they figured
that it's possible to shove it in at discos
and make money out of it.
So they didn't create this music as yet
but Ecstasy was already there.
Nobody consumed it back then,
like, there's some substance, that's it,
but all substances in one way or another
would affect the brain, like, if you chew
lots of hay you'd lose your mind,
it's about the quantity.
- Nobody tried.
- Yeah.
So he [Freud] started spreading cocaine,
he hooked his wife on it, he'd gobble it up himself,
he wrote books promoting cocaine.
And slowly, slowly, in 1890s -
a few events coincide at one point -
he gets to this idea of psychoanalysis.
By the way, coming back to cocaine
and the birth control, since he had many children
he couldn't help experimenting with them
so he tested effects of cocaine on his pregnant wife.
It's a known fact. One thing is fanaticism
of scientists, like, there are many stories about it,
and there's even something likable about it,
it's something barbarous but nevertheless.
But here I'm putting attention of our viewers
- I think we should introduce the structure into our talk -
that the first thing Freud was engaged with
was the birth control followed by the exploration
of cocaine, let's put it this way.
He didn't just study it though,
he was promoting it very actively,
he wrote books about it, like,
he'd prescribe it as medicine.
Like, no one except him wrote a book
about cocaine advertising it as something
boosting sexual energy, that's the reason
so many Americans ended up hooked on it.
- Slowly we got to psychoanalysis.
- Actually, we did.
He embarked on it around 1897.
He had a rather interesting friend, Wilhelm Fliess,
so he writes to him in 1897: "Having analyzed myself
I discovered that I was in love with my mother,
I was jealous of my father, and now I consider that
to be a common occurrence for all the people."
It gives rise to the idea of the Oedipus complex,
and that's, actually, the destruction of family,
like, it's causing rifts in the relationships
between parents and children.
Again, you see how gradually it developed,
and if you take psychiatry - is it really a science?
Like, originally it was thought that all the children
without exception are molested by their parents or relatives,
like, he writes somewhere, okay, there's always involvement
of brother, father or someone else but it happens
when children don't remember it since there's no continuity
of memory, and it's only accessible to a psychoanalyst
with his beautiful methods...
But, actually, he'd enforce, not extract these memories.
By the way, virtually all his works are fabricated,
and it became known only in 1980-s, these are just
his personal fantasies turning innocent things upside down,
I don't wanna say all that on the air, it's so perverted.
I'll just tell beer lovers that their love for beer is caused
by having seen buttocks of the nanny in childhood...
Like, it's a gross hardcore, he was ridden
with neurosises as Jung said about him.
So he'd take all children's stories
and turn them into such a gross hardcore...
Like, our people haven't seen any nannies...
but they keep drinking beer against all odds,
and not just beer alone.
So I'm just making this point
how far it was from any science,
like, he wasn't really a medical worker,
he was a hypnotist meaning an ape
with an atomic bomb in the pocket.
And this hypnotist would grab people,
like, children, and get them to their circle.
There was such Max Graf who later
ran away from Freud, horror-struck,
so they brainwashed this poor kid
by making him always self-analyze himself,
they just made a mess of his psyche.
Like, he had to describe his sexual fantasies
when seeing a peeing horse, like,
it was a nightmare what they did to him,
and then it was forced upon others like a virus
since they were supposed to spread it over.
Our talk isn't very systematic,
I'll try [to make it more structured].
What was the outcome? In America they took it up,
and throughout 1970-s all talk shows would chew
over suppressed memories, people would come
and all of a sudden remember, like, yeah, all parents
molest their children, it was very actively promoted,
and it's a very popular topic in Hollywood.
Basically, they introduced this pedophilia,
they infected the population with it,
and again it overlaps with Hollywood,
that's why I gotta make the story long
and show all these connections
otherwise people wouldn't believe me.
So in 1970-s thanks to talk shows
it was all disseminated, again,
take Nabokov with his "Lolita",
a Nobel laureate.
Nabokov, by the way, hated Freud,
he considered him a very vulgar man,
a fakir and fabulator.
He was a Nobel laureate,
I haven't read Nabokov so I can only
 guesstimate what he writes there about.
Сould be that by studying Freud
he realized this horrible demand [for pedophilia],
so "Lolita" was Nabokov's response to it.
So he was spot on, he just sensed
what Western society was contaminated with,
like, which ferments it digests, so he wrote it.
Or rather what he was contaminated with
since while being on the trip to the US
Freud dropped a remark, as it's described
by his biographers, like, do Americans realize
that we're bringing plague to them?
Not sure what he meant, like, drugs or
this psychoanalysis coupled with sexual
revolution - we're getting closer to it -
since it's all about sex and children.
But it's not the most striking point
since he has a seamy side, so to say,
like, what's not so well known about Freud
is his involvement with all these secretive,
closed organizations.
- Probably, for that particular reason
all his letters are not so much accessible...
- Like, they remain unsheathed.
Like, they talk about cocaine
as if they're lifting some big veil,
many would promote cocaine back then
he was just hired by a company,
supposedly Merk since it was the producer.
Meaning what he pulled off has nothing to do
with science, like, there's an interesting example
when some guy - don't remember his name -
from those who'd really want to understand psychiatry
was traveling from the United States.
He got to [Austria], he was also a Jew,
and he stayed in a hotel owned by a Jew,
he told him, like, I came to celebrated professor
Freud to study psychoanalysis from him,
probably he's in that clinic of yours in Vienna.
The owner goes, like, my son-in-law
works in the hospital, there's no any professor Freud there.
So they'd been sorting through for a long time
what this professor Freud could be
until he realized that they are members
of the same B'nai Brith lodge, so he goes,
ah, he's a member of our lodge!
So when I said that many events overlap there,
Freud wasn't so much a medical worker or scientist
but to a much greater extent he established himself
as a mason of B'nai Brith lodge.
Theodore Herzl said that Freud is
a jewel of B'nai Brith lodge since he had
his own inner lodge inside that lodge,
so he was very famous as a mason
belonging to B'nai Brith lodge.
As for the rest, the sister of his wife...
By the way, she was pregnant from him,
she made an abortion, I'm telling you,
there's dirt there all around, it's all known,
and still this is a mild version of his biography.
So he writes to his sister-in-law,
like, nobody comes, he's got no patients,
and he just sits there together with his portrait
since training in psychoanalysis would take
from 6 months to 3 years and cost like a brain surgery,
so it was really expensive, only some could afford it.
Actually, there was a non-Jew there
otherwise it was a Jewish get-together, like, there was
a famous mason, textile industrialist Filipp Bauer
- it surfaced in 1980-s, by the way - so he sent
his daughter Ida to Freud, and he brainwashed her
to such extent that she just ran away from him.
He'd turn her stories to such a gross hardcore,
I'll get there, it's a real anti-religion...
Based on those conversations
Freud would write books, and most of them
were plainly fabricated, like, not a single
of those descriptions was free from the author's
fantasy, so he'd just make up whatever he needed,
and it'd become his "scientific" works.
And still nobody read him,
he admitted himself on his way to the US
that, like, they'd tar and feather us,
people would simply mock at him.
And impale...
So he was laughed and mocked at
but he'd say - give me a second -
like, sexual morality in the eyes of society
and mostly that of American society
seems disgusting to me. I stand for
a much freer sexual relationships.
So, basically, they corrupted American morals,
like, he said that they were bringing a plague there,
and that was being done quite consciously,
like, you gotta unleash all these sexual things.
Again, it was all organized by the principle
of a [Masonic] lodge, not some scientific society,
like, he had 22 close students - to the point,
 Freud was also a hypnotist and worked with all of them -
so the majority of them ended up killing themselves.
- You mean more than half of those 22?
- Ok, not the majority but many of them,
a high percentage of them committed suicide.
Freud himself asked to give him a triple dose...
- So about 7 people?
- I'll try to remember all of them, just a sec.
Freud practically committed suicide himself,
like, he talked Max Shur, his friend,
into giving him a triple doze of morphine
but with Freud you can explain it
since he suffered from cancer.
Regarding the rest, like, what was
going on in their circle, messing up
with children's psyche - that's fine,
like, people who were going there
had some neurosises in the first place,
it's a fact, at least their lives weren't settled.
So these were rather fragile individuals,
I don't know what Freud was doing to them
but, say, one of his students, Ferenczi,
who had some problem with his bride
ended up living with his mother-in-law.
So what they were up to,
what Freud would explain to them...
Like, Federer, one of them, shot himself
having shot the portrait of Freud before that,
so it was "the first shot" in 1903.
In 1919 Viktor Tausk simultaneously
hanged and shot himself.
In 1923 Herbert Silberer hanged himself
with his face being highlighted in such a way
so others would see it upon entering,
so they'd kill themselves in a twisted way.
In 1924 Harold Frick (?) cut his veins,
in 1934 the head of... seemingly Polish 
department of this psychiatric society
Eugenie Sokolnicka poisoned herself with gas.
So we've got many suicides in the first inner circle,
there were eight people in there, and it wasn't formed
like a normal scientific society.
Like, Freud made special rings for them,
like, in a Masonic fashion... so it's all really...
Smells like heavy satanism to me.
We're getting there... so he made those rings,
gave them to the members of the inner circle,
probably, the only non-Jew there
was Napoleon's granddaughter.
By the way, she preserved his letters
from the Third Reich, she hid them in the Dutch Embassy,
then they were traveling around, by the way,
they were also kept in Rothschild's bank.
I can't really say if Rothschild has
anything to do with Freud,
there's no direct evidence of that
but our well-known historian Karpets
links Rothschild and Bauer, like,
Philip Bauer was also a Mason.
So it's a fact that Fillip Bauer was a Mason,
and he proposed him his daughter.
So it was formed by the principle
of a closed circle where they'd sit
and try to unleash some demon, so to say,
like, there was understanding that there's
some inner demonic element in man.
As Freud wrote, like, all kinds of demons
are inside me which can't break free,
so they have to be gradually let loose.
If you take another his quote, like,
those, who are like me, in order
to fight the most horrible demons
hiding in the depths of human soul,
should prepare themselves that
they wouldn't be spared either.
So most of them lied down
in this hard struggle unleashing demons.
There's a song, like, "Besame, besame mucho"
[In Russian it sounds like "I'm tormented,
tormented with demons"]
It's quite serious point though.
So we've got all signs of anti-religion,
like, some closed flock, some kind
of communion when they sit and start
pulling out demons, only demons,
and it was later disseminated all over.
There was such German psychiatrist as Kurt Lewin,
he introduced a general trend in psychiatry, like,
if you take American films they always show
some gatherings where they start saying, like,
I'm an alcoholic, this, that, it's a common thing,
so this group psychotherapy came from Kurt Lewin.
He called it "T-groups", like, training groups,
but the point is when someone talks
about his vices and hears about others' vices,
he becomes insensitive to his own vices
and stops being afraid of them.
So the actual goal was to decrease
the level of moral self-assessment
 in each of them and get them used to it.
And it all started from the inner circle of Freud
where he nurtured his students, say,
Emma Goldman comes from there too.
So you started the conversation
from Darwin's positivist theory of evolution
giving rise to such hard-line science as ethology,
like, studying human beings as animals,
and it keeps developing, it's a part of modern
scientific, social and, methinks, political discourse.
But what you're telling about psychoanalysis
is more closer to various Kabbalist ideas,
like, from one side we've got positivist, scientific
 worldview devoid of any moral categories,
and the Kabbalist worldview from the other
which many social institutions are based upon.
They lie at the very core
of all these institutions, actually.
So that's precisely Boschian nightmare,
like, we're entering 2016 which is the year of Bosch
according to UNESCO, and if all these things you tell
are really true, what's the world we are living in,
and what's this New World Order all about?
Regarding Bosch, there's a theory that Bosch
was also a member of closed Gnostic societies,
I'll try to touch on esoterics if that's okay.
Like, Freud... when the chief rabbi of Vienna
congratulated Freud with his 75th anniversary,
he answered, like, yeah, I'm a fanatical Jew
but, say, his children weren't religious Jews,
he didn't even circumcise them.
At the same time, if you take
the abbreviation of his children's names,
it'd read "Moshe" meaning Moses,
like, Martin, etc, I don't remember them.
- Probably, it has more to do with their mother.
- Perhaps, since she was from a rabbinical family, actually.
Freud himself wasn't religious, he'd always say
that he doesn't believe in God.
- So starting from 1896...
- Freud was antisemitic, right?
All the more... like, strangely enough
many Jews were antisemitic,
even Hannah Arendt wrote about it
in her "Origins of Totalitarianism".
But these were mostly among poor Jews,
like, this theory of "the chosen people"
was also projected on the social status,
Protestantism and all other things,
say, poor Galician Jews were despised
by their better-off companions,
Hannah Arendt writes about it.
- It's a complicated topic, let's drop it.
- It's complicated indeed.
But if we connect it with Bosch, like,
there's such thing as a photo of Freud's office.
Wolf Messing has a description of it,
by the way, Freud together with Einstein,
- yeah, this interesting company -
tested his ability to read thoughts
and perform some tasks based on it.
So Messing described Freud's office
as having marinated parts of human body,
skulls, etc., it'd all make an impression
of an abode of alchemist with demonic
figure of Freud sitting inside it.
- So that's Wolf Messing's description...
- Like, a sorcerer...
Another point is - you can look up
this photo on Internet - that his office
was stuffed with Egyptians things, like,
statues, etc., he was really interested in Egyptology.
Another Egyptian thing he was interested in,
like, his biographers write that every week
he'd play Tarot cards but you don't play Tarot,
you tell fortunes with them.
He was obsessed with this numerology
coming from the Kabbalah since they believe
that the world is encoded with digits
tied to the letters of Jewish alphabet,
so the Kabbalah is full of ciphered messages.
By the way, to set out Tarot cards
you gotta enter the ecstatic state,
that's another reason why Freud
was exploring drugs, actually.
Like, if you take Merck company -
I'll tell one more detail about it -
one of its founders joined the expedition
organized by the Catherine the Great,
he'd go around Siberia studying fly agarics
[poisonous and hallucinogenic mushrooms].
So exploring ecstatic states
is another big topic.
- Did he come back?
- From mushroom trips? Like, the company's still around.
So he did come back and resume
with his apothecary in Darmstadt.
So Freud's engagement with drugs...
like, he entered the lodge in 1897,
and Wilhelm Fliess whom he called "my demon",
the guy who he made a surgery with,
was actually a Kabbalist.
Like, if we take Zohar, the fundamental book [of the Kabbalah]:
"Nefesh – lower arousal, cleaving to the body like the light of a candle.
The lower light, which is black, cleaves to the wick, never parting from it,
arrayed by it alone. Once arrayed by the wick, it becomes a throne
for the white light settling upon the black light. When both are arrayed,
the white light becomes a throne for a concealed light – invisible, unknown – settling upon the white light."
So, actually, all these Kabbalist constructions, like,
they have ten sefirots emanating like multicolored flames,
like, Atziluth, Briah, Yetzirah preceding the physical world,
it's all as clear as mud but, nevertheless this three-structured
Kabbalist setup of the human soul becomes "superego",
 "ego" and "it" in a more scientific language.
But, after all, in the Kabbalah
the higher worlds create the lower,
it has a different dynamics but Freud
takes the lowest as the foundation
and essence of the human soul.
Speaking in esoteric language of another tradition,
lowest chakras start ruling.
Yeah, same thing but in different terms,
like, they take this lowest chakra
and start spinning it as the main thing,
come up with some rationale explaining
everything from this demon's standpoint.
They don't have normal people there,
like, doctor is always sadist or, like,
ballerina is exhibitionist, so everything
gotta have some dirty seamy side there.
- So everything's pathological.
- Yeah, preferably pornographic.
Initially Freud would say "Dreckology",
dreck means "dirt" in German,
so they'd pull out human dirt
and declare it as human essence,
so it's like dragging in the mud...
- So it's the Kabbalah which is
flipped over on top of that.
- Precisely!
So it has nothing to do with real Zohar, etc.,
it's just taken as a construction.
Interestingly enough, the birth control and other things
come down to social control, I'd finish with that
since all that has, as usual, rather simple
and practical explanations, like, yeah, it all smells
like satanism but, say, the highest degree of Masonry
in B'nai B'rith belonged to banker Jacob Schiff.
So they were perfecting the system of social control
from all these Kabbalist construction and psychoanalysis...
like, his follower Sabina Spielrein' elder brother Isaac Spielrein
was in charge of pedology [child study] in the Soviet Russia,
and she herself was in charge for some child lab, etc.
It all was finished in 1936 since it was declared
a bourgeois science, and it wasn't surprising,
like, they also had such a gross hardcore there,
and the chief Soviet sexologist Aaron Zalkind
was also involved, he was accused of siding with
West including with IQ creator Terman from the US.
They'd explain, like, working class
and colonial peoples can't have
high intelligence simply by birth,
and for that they developed IQ system
which Issac Spielrein and some others
were involved with in the Soviet Union.
And Makarenko [celebrated Soviet educator]
said that it all smells like some Kabbalist science
when a person is gauged, measured and then
 assigned with a number, and this number,
basically, becomes your life-long stamp.
So this separate education and other things
which first were introduced in Germany...
- So, like, it's some biological determinism,
social determinism, etc.
- I'm gonna link it to eugenics.
Like, there was such Serebrovsky
who advocated socialist eugenics,
like, mandatory selection.
There was also such Blonsky involved with pedology
together with Collman, they'd say that the working class
has a neurosis of degeneration and it doesn't need
Socialism since it's incapable of it anyways, etc.
I can't say it from memory but Trotsky
would also say rather unpleasant words
about the working class, so all that
was finished in 1936 with Stalin's decision,
it was declared a bourgeois science
but basically it was really pure fascism.
So all these things are interconnected,
like, there was Adler, a Freud's student
who took power, not sex, as the starting point,
so according to him the fundamental human drive
is the desire for power or domination.
And one of the followers of his theory
was Goering, a nephew of Hermann Goering,
he was engaged in psychiatry, psychology,
and all these psycho-practices in Germany
where people were being brainwashed to the max,
so Goering's nephew was involved with that.
Then... interestingly enough, after the World War II
there was a series of special operations
in which Americans would copy personal files
of fascist criminals and bring them [to the US]
based on their usefulness, like, Von Braun, etc.
There were many of them, like,
when it comes to cosmic program
it was done almost entirely by Germans,
but they also brought a huge number
of psychiatrists from Germany involved
with all these things having very practical use.
Like, first soap operas and TV
came about in the Third Reich,
like, Goebbels would say
that it's a very powerful weapon.
- So even soap operas are coming from there?
- Yeah, like, programs for children, for housewives,
and Goebbels was against showing them
to Germans, like, if you sink into the world of illusions
you don't need a machine-gun, you're fully satisfied
whereas they were being set for grabbing territories.
There was such Ohnesorge, the head
of the post office in the Third Reich,
he'd been introduced to Hitler by his personal
photographer Gofmann - he'd also introduced
Eva Braun to him - so he was highly respected
by Hitler, he also oversaw the nuclear program.
So Hitler would say, like, you see,
we don't know what to do, we're losing the war
whereas my postmaster comes to me and says
that we've got a super weapon.
- A special delivery.
- Yeah.
So Ohnesorge would say
that control over TV should remain
in German hands and be promoted.
So it was a part of controlling,
like, I've mentioned before Kurt Lewin
with his group therapy but we've also got
[Freud's] nephew Barneys with his propaganda,
we've got Albert Lasker with his advertising
and so-called public relations, and it all
had to do with manipulation of society.
Like, whether you want or not
but if they dangle the same box
before your eyes, plainly by principle
of recognition you'd be buying it.
That's the reason advertising doesn't try
to be smart, it's plain stupid since it's all based
on recognition, you just dangle something enough,
and all that was developed by Barneys, Lasker, etc.
And all that has a very practical use
in terms of manipulation of the masses,
that's all I wanted to tell about Freud.
Thanks a lot for this conversation,
I just wanna repeat that these are,
like, sketches of reality, not the research,
and I'd like to continue with these sketches,
probably we'd make a series of programs
since "Word and Deed" is an experimental program.
I just bring people here and then try to figure
how to use them again, in a positive sense,
like, how to work with them within
the framework of our project.
Like, this line we've chosen
is now well-tried, so we can do a series
of programs, we can go more into detail.
Like, how real sociology looks like.
Yeah, we can try it, I can even use my lecture for MSIIR.
[Moscow State Institute for International Relations]
It's just all these Freudian principles and models
got introduced to and became a part and parcel
of today's social and even spiritual reality,
like, social engineering, that's true.
But we're now on a new level of manipulation
that has to do with digital technologies, social networks, etc.
Yeah, it's a huge topic, it's huge.
And what's been said here, I think,
is a good foundation for discussions to follow,
like, all these very popular and fashionable things
that have very deep and far reaching roots.
So again, Dmitry, thanks a lot.
And also thanks to our viewers, sorry
for not answering your questions this time,
unfortunately, there are huge time restraints
these days, so watch us at 3 pm on Thursdays,
it's "Word and Deed" program, all the best!
