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and a fajita say you you have tattoos
very very yes kami with tattoos how's
the experience about having tattoos
because I also have some shocking
experience telling a pattern plate know
when did you get yours I got my first
chat to back in 1996 1995 95 if you
notice the the dragon mmm that dragon is
significantly smaller okay okay
it's probably about four inches by two
inches four inches by two inches yeah I
was still in college it was done
traditional way the traditional way
where the the tattoo artist used the
bamboo Wow bamboo in ink there's a
famous tattoo artist ever the the female
who's yeah the one period yes yes but
this guy was the one who did did a lot
of the rock star tattoos in in Venice
Beach alright so I was with a bunch of
my fraternity brothers back then on
college and we decided to give it a two
oh so when I came back home to Manila in
2009 I decided to make it a little
bigger that's the dragon you see right
now last year I decided what the hell
you know to get a what they call a half
armor from the chest all the way to the
shoulders to the back so this is still a
work in progress okay I didn't know
that's what they call it but a half
armor okay Duane Jones oh yeah okay
is it more is it true that once you hit
your 40s it's more painful to get a
tattoo
I think it's painful irregardless of
what age yeah because the skin is skin
yeah you get used to it after a while
but that some pain tolerance not for
using Google oh good I don't think it's
in pain tolerance it's after a couple of
hours should just get numb that's true
that's true I was thinking of getting
one but my friend kept telling me once
you hit your 40s so I was like starting
to think about it but I guess you're
right it's not the paint dollar that's
after a while all that buzzing see
Lester you buy you also have one kill
and move on is it more painful Bob I got
four colors a little bit more painful
like oh this one was probably the most
painful okay right here by the bicep
area head still painful it's the most
tender part I don't know if I can still
do and I'm also looking at your
Instagram right you know you're all
you're very much into fitness no yes
that's why I cants you were saying you
have your supplement line yeah I when I
was in the u.s. I I started off I work
for one of the big financial friends
went bankrupt and we're in the middle of
the whole mess yeah and after that
decided to come home
I was about 310 pounds Wow
I was bad oh you've probably seen one of
the photos in my Instagram before and
after photo but I walked into a meeting
one day with a friend of mine and I've
never seen since high school
okay and he ended up becoming a fitness
person in the u.s. on the gym and went
back daily low okay and as soon as I
walked into Starbucks he looked at me
and said bro you're like this close to
dying yeah you need to change so that's
what prompted my fitness journey okay
yes in 2015 I decided to join my first
bodybuilding competition Wow place first
and then that's where the bodybuilding
bug hit you know hit me until see that
was me have to ask you grew up in the
Philippines or in the stage I grew up
here okay and I moved to the US and 92
92 for college okay all right are you
here for good now I used a good yeah
here for good so in 2015 that's when the
fitness journey started here started in
2013 2013 2000 it started around 2010
2011 but I made every mistake in the
book mm-hmm
you know did all the fats the egg diet
that this diet did that diet nothing
ever worked
what's the egg diet you just what's
wrong with that's the only thing I know
how to cook so I really don't know how
to cook a lot of other things so it's
just egg and bread in my pantry but I
feel hungry and we during the day and
I'm a food pantry exactly what's wrong
with the egg diet it's not just the egg
diet that's wrong it's just having one
specific
meal diet is wrong I got the day it's
balanced yes you know if you go back to
the age of the caveman uh-huh
you know although that's not the best
example because the mortality rate was
pretty pretty low they pretty much ate a
pretty balanced diet mhm
it consisted of me you know protein fats
and carbs yeah and here we are
fast-forward you know 15 16 iterations
later yeah we come up with these
ridiculous diets because it helps us
lose weight yeah you know I I have this
theory now I call it the bean town I'm a
safari there's three ways of losing
weight yeah one is you know if you're in
the if you're in the penthouse of a
building mm-hmm the first way of losing
ways you can take the stairs all right
yeah you'll get to the ground floor it's
a little bit slower yeah but you'll get
to the ground floor the second way to
take the elevator okay
major monkey thinking of one thing wait
for the elevator people get in and out
in but you eventually get the bottom
floor yeah or you can jump out the
window
yeah and get there faster you get there
faster yeah but you end up dead
yeah so there's three ways there's
always these three ways of getting
things done yeah but which one is
actually the right way the best ways to
use the stairs the stairs but most
people aren't willing to do that yeah
everybody's looking to jump out the
window
exactly you not an quantity has asked as
can sort of health but no health
concerns never because I've made every
mistake in the book yeah you know
throughout the first few years of my
journey I've read everything I've tried
everything
yeah you know the the canned tuna diet
yeah I mean it came to a point where in
pinaki Taiwan and canned tuna I wanted
to throw it at someone
you know just right now I can taste it
just talking about it steamed chicken
unless it's Hainanese chicken why do you
want to eat steamed chicken I don't know
if we're competition again what you're
saying daily life you shouldn't be
preparing for the stage better for
competition is this something that game
it's a different it's a different game
you know it's it's it's a lot of people
call it sacrifice I never called the
sacrifice because nobody put a gun to
your head you know nobody told you to do
it for yourself it was fun but not
sustainable
okay so Union discipline more in core
discipline more at that time was
bodybuilding rebuilding can we I know
this for most of the tea toss they
already know this but on a bad
definition on bodybuilding for the
younger ones a bodybuilding competition
is basically you go on stage and wear
that little bikini looking thing which I
swore I would never wear but I did
anyway
Lester has clips posted on my basically
it you have anywhere from three to seven
judges judging you on condition symmetry
yeah
proportion you know definitional Denisha
and everything okay and it's a very
subjective sport it is well you have
yeah merchandise yeah bags but no that
was just made for me oh okay eventually
it'll probably will have merch but not
right now wow this is you have what hat
I have to ask what's the purpose of
being tanned for the people who don't
know bodybuilding what's the purpose of
that when you go on stage and you're as
wide as I am mmm indeed American
gimmicky tend definition
so you put on what they call spray tan
yeah different companies offer it yeah
and you'll have a better projection on
stage much body heat pain definition
stage press since then I've done yes I
remember pattern you there's also this
one guy who's also doing bodybuilding
parent the husband of Jaya and I'm not
so sure
yeah yeah I remember sometimes I see his
content then online well I mean a
competition's going on with bodybuilding
that's what's the difference with
bodybuilding and CrossFit totally
different because CrossFit is more
functional mm-hmm you know you're you're
working towards a goal based on how many
reps time you know so basically it's a
race yes with bodybuilding there's no
race yes it's all aesthetics okay you
know you're not going to be judged based
on how many pounds you lifted or how
long it took you to lift those pounds
reps so that's the big difference is
CrossFit is a lot more functional
okay yeah because you can technically
have a bodybuilder who looks great on
stage but you may can do is cross hit
cross fade I'll probably end up
collapsing is there discrimination with
bodybuilders who think that CrossFit is
something that's not worth their time in
CrossFit people saying that bodybuilding
is not functional there's always this
big disconnect between CrossFit and
bodybuilding actually there's there's a
big rift in between the two and that was
probably the first bodybuilder that
ended up trying CrossFit trying to and I
actually did a video on it because to
pull that off and
not sure if we posted it how was it I've
been wanting to try it but injury at
this age will take about six months to
heal so I was thinking maybe I'll skip
on it it was one of the most humbling
things I've ever done in my life yeah
it's hard
there are many hard I it gave me a whole
different perspective yeah on on
CrossFit and how the training and talk
about sacrifice because they have to do
maintenance every day and it's a whole
different animal did what was your
perception before you tried it out
though did it change after you went
through their workouts I was one of
those guys that really never pass
judgment on things and tell that's very
good yes
she's she's a CrossFit champion
crystalline yeah it's this here in the
film that's good this is good this is an
avant-garde and then this is your first
time this is just a warm-up
the man representing WOD yes yeah we're
gonna end up you know you'll see I don't
see a part of it here okay if you
fast-forward later on
at least very open-minded gasps and at
least you're the type that you're saying
that you don't pass judgment until you
try it
that's a very big thing and that'll help
a lot on YouTube because for me it's a
little unfair yeah you know because
especially for people who who've never
tried it and then to even talk about it
yeah without even trying it is already
hard yeah just imagine passing judgment
that's true I just have to say this is
amazing I can't even
expression human millennial say did you
die though
The Hangover expression yeah doesn't buy
you pull-ups Nalanda without I mean
pull-ups and let me swinging motion I
think the reason for that is because if
you did the normal and the normal
pull-ups yeah
you get that agony because they do it by
volume by volume so they had to find a
different way of doing things I mean
this is one of the hard you think it's
like just yeah throwing a ball on a
target right you have it it's heavy it's
ten kilos that ball it's ten or twelve
I'm not sure but it's heavy is it would
you consider this now a young man's game
to CrossFit or people who are a little
older I can try it
CrossFit was actually I mean you know a
lot of our CrossFit listen that your
listeners could probably correct me but
based on my reading and and my my
understanding is the reason CrossFit was
invented is basically for cross-training
it was really made for athletes okay but
there's a lot of there's a lot of people
now who are who used to be sedentary
yeah who end up doing crossfit and
unfortunately if you're new to the sport
and you push yourself too much that's
what injury start but even at an older
age if guided properly yeah I think it's
doable it's very doable so this is a
misconception of mind- over say with the
crossfit pattern that's the nature of it
you have to push to the brink or in the
in a man that you can gradually if you
can only do 10 I feel like I said if you
can only do 10 everyone's gonna push you
all right you have to do 20 I think
that's more drama than anything yeah but
the human body
because if there's there's a difference
between pushing pasture limit your
psychological limit yeah and pushing
past your bodily limit yeah I mean the
cycle 99% of the time it's psychological
limiting okay because we're afraid to
cross that barrier we're afraid to get
injured we're afraid get tired get tired
and you know on the ping gun anyway you
do a lot of things right yeah but
there's such a thing called bodily
limits and when you go past that that's
what injury starts yeah you know as we
age the recovery becomes slower and
slower longer and longer so we have to
be mindful of that yeah
so pushing yourself is okay as long as
you understand your body okay but how's
the culture in in CrossFit is it will
they really push it to the break or
mylar Ghanim and saliva will say you
know take take we'll do it at your own
pace I think it really depends on the
gym you end up going to the trainer the
instructor you know so you really have
to find someone that you mesh with well
yeah you know - a bodybuilding dinner
man which every Jimmy used by Planet
Fitness relaxed if you go to the
hardcore gym smile a Ct Fletcher yeah
see CT CT Fletcher and I went through a
heart transplant well yeah you had to go
through our transplant you know that's
just where a lot of the
performance-enhancing drugs
I mean all these oh yeah he did you and
at some point in time the Piper needs to
get paid that's true even expression
eager the when he went through triple
bypass yes
it's fortune eager had a heart valve
surgery
mm okay you know what a lot of people
don't understand is you know we're going
into the realm of steroids yeah you know
performance-enhancing drugs is nothing
more than if we talk about cars you know
yeah like in cars there's such a thing
called nitrous oxide yeah no yes right
Fast and the Furious you know you press
that nitrous the car goes yeah well if
your engine hmm is not at its peak
mm-hmm it'll end up blowing up yeah but
even if your engine is at its peak at
some point in time the valves are gonna
get gustado you know the the fuel lines
are gonna get out of place so you have
to do what you call an overhaul yeah
and that's basically what happened -
Arnold Schwarzenegger he had an overhaul
so for the memory keepers in the future
subscribers we're talking about
performance-enhancing drugs here not
talking about talking about steroids and
the use of it in in bodybuilding and and
a lot of sports in a lot of sports in
the Barry Bonds baseball players back in
the day
so the performance-enhancing drugs the
the steroids this is something that's
common in bodybuilding in bodybuilding I
said there's natural bodybuilding and
there's regular bodybuilding
bodybuilding mmm and unfortunately when
you get to a certain level mm-hmm
you know you have to get to a point
where your body can only grow so much
yeah your DNA is your DNA yes your body
type is your body type so yes to defy
your genetics you have to do certain
things all right steroids do nothing
more than speed up your recovery and
open up your receptors and then every
you eat becomes more efficient okay so
if you have slow metabolism and speeds
it up if you have deficiency in
digestion it speeds it up okay
then again I go back to the analogy of
the car yeah you know you're basically
you're every time you take steroids
you're pressing that nitrous oxide
button yeah and you can't do that all
the time can't do that all the time yeah
and at a certain point in time your
internal organs are gonna say bro
yeah we got chill yeah you know what's
the first thing that's hit with your if
there's an overuse what's the first
thing that suffers is that the liver the
liver the liver the liver the heart
all right is there such a being me
freeze but then again a natural
bodybuilder with the likes of Sarah Phil
Heath the really professional wants a
natural bodybuilders I would say are
smaller yeah they're smaller they're
more ripped although there's like fill
in in competition is extremely ripped
you got the likes of Shawn Rhoden you
got the likes of Jay Cutler yeah you
know on stage they're extremely ripped
yeah but offseason they try to bulk up
but they're still relatively lean yeah
they don't go oh yeah yeah who's the
who's the current now I can't remember
right now it's it's Shawn Rhoden shawn
rhoden and then who's the competition of
phil heath who retired for a while
kai greene a green tie green is so
interesting he is so interesting he's an
artist now he's also trying to act he's
in China getting movie roles
who's your favorite it's Kai green well
my favorite is really Jay Cutler ah
interesting
alright because of the longevity he's
just a different breed
I'm so extremely smart person I don't
know him I've never been embroiled in
any scandals
yeah you know so he's one of the people
I really look up to and and I follow and
I heard he's really and very humble
someone screamed at him down old lady -
get off get off some exercise machine
and he just took it he was just very
courteous and cordial he just gave way
so he's I've not so for me all the the
only thing I know about him is that he
also parent groomed Phil Heath or they
were there I think they're really good
friends you know Jay used to work with a
coach named Hank Haney ranma-honey ran
Bob who owns IVA Jin nutrition and
that's Phil's coach so back then he used
to promote a program called FST 7 ok
flash a trainer flashes strength
training seven all right vasya stretch
training seven FS D seven
yeah and Jay was one of the guys who was
in his videos and then it became Phil
mmm so that's where they became friends
there's still good friends I think I see
them on social media like all right so
that's the genesis of your interest and
supplements is that where it started
because she joined the competitions
you've lived the lifestyle what what
gave me the impetus nahi seeking I'll
start and create my own supplement line
my my interested shop laments came when
when I started in bodybuilding I hired a
I'll use this phrase called cachero
I'm actually coined that phrase
panchetta that means anybody who is a
coach who doesn't really know shit
that's true and unfortunately that was
my first foray into bodybuilding and the
first time I ever stepped in this coach
is coach Aris gym he started injecting
me with stuff Wow immediately within
about three weeks three weeks started
selling me stuff yeah so I became you
know you trust the person that you hire
yeah yeah for human snow and I said may
have indeed ready to make the steroids
that are not for humans that are being
used by bodybuilders okay with when it
comes to when it comes to steroids mean
there's testosterone there's for
livestock
yeah there's humans yeah some people who
are on a budget use the ones for
livestock yeah but a lot of it's sold
underground gas an underground lab so
you don't know where the line crosses
anymore
yeah so the kanima hadoo diligence no
you're not sure if it's if it's made for
livestock or for humans yeah you don't
know whether the lab is really in
legitimate lab or not because a lot of
them is underground you know they're not
you're not medically they're not FDA
they're not so in there are certain
substances I'll give you an example uh
commuter all what's knife clean beuter
Hall is actually not a steroid but it's
used for cutting mmm a lot of
bodybuilders use it for cutting it's
actually as my medication I really
it's a bronchodilator
when it was first actually created for
lifestyle
all right in some European countries
Eastern European countries it was
approved for healings okay but in the
u.s. it was never approved for humans
who's always been for livestock but a
lot of bodybuilders figured it out and
started using a bodybuilding trembling
for instance is a cutting drug yes what
they call juice of the Gods because of
its extreme anabolic effect but it was
invented for cows
what's the yeah just for our subscribers
since Nina Manila Mossad don't have
basado what's that what's an anabolic
anabolic it be it when a person is
anabolic it means that your ability to
process food you know you're like this
sponge that just opens up and everything
you eat becomes efficient okay so the
ability to absorb progress develop is
there that's the anabolic face it
becomes it becomes more efficient okay
okay
unfortunately when you remove that
element and you go back to become
immortal regulate so yeah that's when
people get fat sometimes you know when
they stop yeah the very keepers as well
you I think they could Tarot term is
more of the tito's then Kasich if back
in the day what you you write all these
some vanilla you Monica Jarrow sobre my
way and I'll tell you all these stories
do not even Vito me so given that when
once we see coach Aero terms means and
then it's basically full of BS usually
and even on in the young master so heads
now you have your own supplement line
yes what's the skinny tell us more about
yourself element line well we have this
I have a supplement line called reborn
performance reborn performance
it's it's r3b ORN performance and the
reason I created it is because a lot of
the supplements that I've tried mm-hmm
are basically I'm not extremely happy
with mm-hmm
so we tried to I work for the lab in the
US where we created certain products
yeah
initially it was performance enhancing
it was called Psalms but we stopped
selling those so we focused more on the
natural stuff now
okay which is reborn performance we have
sub-q which is a fat burner okay and
it's it was created basically to make
you sweat all right - to speed up the
metabolism metabolism to give you more
energy and what a lot of the fat burners
that I've tried before mm-hmm
gave me was the initial jolt and then
suddenly you crash yep this doesn't have
it all right so sustained energy
sustained energy remember yeah I think
when I was young I I forget the brand
but uh the problem was bana you're on
heartwood palpitate sometimes here you
get a little jittery because of all the
caffeine that's in it so for you for
this one um what's your primary product
it's the fat burn
it's the fat burner it's actually our
only product right now okay and we have
several products in the pipeline we have
the BCAA we have a we have a
testosterone booster that's coming out
those are still under development and
will probably come out in 2020 this is
one business eager that I'm very
intimidated with because I feel like
it's so capital intensive with with a
product development product I'm bigger
than our India tanita this I was the
guinea pig so I know it was yeah it was
a little bit
cheaper yeah let's say you have
experience you have the know-how right
trial and error a lot of trialing her
yeah but how do you market that now it's
mostly on social right now all on social
media
do you sponsor athletes the we have
several athletes should we work with
yeah and we're really lucky and happy to
be working with these athletes they love
the product
and they really believe in it at least
now is the time for collaboration you
say yeah not not you don't have to
immediately give a fee to someone I mean
now you can ask someone if you want to
promote the product if you want to help
out you know particular my name is at a
decision I will to give out products
long and they're nice enough to wear it
to post it so that's your supplement
line in r3 and then born be ORM and then
if they want to buy this where do they
go they can go on Instagram and we just
launched our website last night go up ww
are three born performance calm all
right so you're hearing it first here on
spill the beach they just launched their
website so it's reborn yeah okay so
right now or you also have a you also
have a merge merge beta and I ended when
a chain bridge it's tough for us it's
not merge we really sell we sell shirts
but for you guys or your what do you
call this bar sleeveless hood and
sleeveless hoodies we have we have some
shirts we have caps we have a shaker cup
we have a water jug all right those will
come out later in the year
so we're excited to be launching this
aren't you very enterprising you have
always been he talked I say you also
have the further memory keepers who
don't know you also have luxury cars
Manila and then you have this right
