>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL."
>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL." PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY GUILIANI IS AT THE
LAWYER RUDY GUILIANI IS AT THE CENTER OF THE UKRAINE SCANDAL
CENTER OF THE UKRAINE SCANDAL THAT LAUNCHED THE IMPEACHMENT
THAT LAUNCHED THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND COULD POTENTIALLY
INQUIRY AND COULD POTENTIALLY FACE FEDERAL CHARGES FOR HIS
FACE FEDERAL CHARGES FOR HIS WORK.
WORK. "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS NOW
"THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" IS NOW REPORTING THAT UNDER THEIR
REPORTING THAT UNDER THEIR INVESTIGATION FEDERAL
INVESTIGATION FEDERAL PROSECUTORS, QUOTE, ARE
PROSECUTORS, QUOTE, ARE EXAMINING GUILIANI’S BUSINESS
EXAMINING GUILIANI’S BUSINESS DEALINGS IN UKRAINE INCLUDING
DEALINGS IN UKRAINE INCLUDING HIS FINANCES, MEETINGS, AND WORK
HIS FINANCES, MEETINGS, AND WORK FOR A CITY MAYOR THERE ACCORDING
FOR A CITY MAYOR THERE ACCORDING TO PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE
TO PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER.
MATTER. INVESTIGATORS ALSO HAVE EXAMINED
INVESTIGATORS ALSO HAVE EXAMINED MR. GUILIANI’S BANK RECORDS.
MR. GUILIANI’S BANK RECORDS. ON FRIDAY PRESIDENT TRUMP DID
ON FRIDAY PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT DEFIN TIFFLY STATE WHETHER
NOT DEFIN TIFFLY STATE WHETHER MR. GUILIANI WAS HIS LAWYER BUT
MR. GUILIANI WAS HIS LAWYER BUT DEFENDED HIM SATURDAY.
DEFENDED HIM SATURDAY. HE WENT ON TWITTER AND SAID SO
HE WENT ON TWITTER AND SAID SO NOW THEY ARE AFTER THE LENGDARY
NOW THEY ARE AFTER THE LENGDARY CRIME BUSTER AND GREATEST MAYOR
CRIME BUSTER AND GREATEST MAYOR OF NYC RUDY GUILIANI.
OF NYC RUDY GUILIANI. HE MAY SEEM A LITTLE ROUGH
HE MAY SEEM A LITTLE ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES SOMETIMES BUT
AROUND THE EDGES SOMETIMES BUT HE IS ALSO A GREAT GUY AND
HE IS ALSO A GREAT GUY AND WONDERFUL LAWYER.
WONDERFUL LAWYER. THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS A
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS A SHORT WHILE LATER GUILIANI HAD
SHORT WHILE LATER GUILIANI HAD LUNCH WITH THE PRESIDENT AT HIS
LUNCH WITH THE PRESIDENT AT HIS GOLF COURSE IN VIRGINIA AND THE
GOLF COURSE IN VIRGINIA AND THE PRESIDENT GAVE HIS STRONGEST
PRESIDENT GAVE HIS STRONGEST PRAISE FOR GUILIANI IN AN
PRAISE FOR GUILIANI IN AN INTERVIEW WITH FOX NEWS ON
INTERVIEW WITH FOX NEWS ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
SATURDAY NIGHT. >> THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AS TO
>> THERE IS SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU STILL
WHETHER OR NOT YOU STILL CONSIDER HIM YOUR ATTORNEY.
CONSIDER HIM YOUR ATTORNEY. IS HE YOUR ATTORNEY?
IS HE YOUR ATTORNEY? >> YES, AND HE IS A GREAT
>> YES, AND HE IS A GREAT GENTLEMAN, A GREAT MAYOR.
GENTLEMAN, A GREAT MAYOR. BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST, MAYBE
BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST, MAYBE THE GREATEST MAYOR IN THE
THE GREATEST MAYOR IN THE HISTORY OF NEW YORK.
HISTORY OF NEW YORK. HE WAS A FANTASTIC PROSECUTOR.
HE WAS A FANTASTIC PROSECUTOR. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM BEING
I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM BEING UNDER INVESTIGATION.
UNDER INVESTIGATION. AS SOMEBODY SAID I HEARD A
AS SOMEBODY SAID I HEARD A REPORT TODAY.
REPORT TODAY. I CAN’T IMAGINE IT.
I CAN’T IMAGINE IT. HE’S A MAN THAT LOOKS FOR
HE’S A MAN THAT LOOKS FOR CORRUPTION AND WHATEVER HE DOES
CORRUPTION AND WHATEVER HE DOES I REALLY BELIEVE HE IS A
I REALLY BELIEVE HE IS A TOTALLY -- I MEAN, I KNOW HE IS
TOTALLY -- I MEAN, I KNOW HE IS AN HONORABLE MAN.
AN HONORABLE MAN. >> THE "NEW YORK TIMES"
>> THE "NEW YORK TIMES" COLUMNIST EXPLORED GUILIANI’S
COLUMNIST EXPLORED GUILIANI’S EFFORTS DURING A RECENT TRIP TO
EFFORTS DURING A RECENT TRIP TO UKRAINE WRITING THANKS TO
UKRAINE WRITING THANKS TO GUILIANI’S ESCAPADES THE
GUILIANI’S ESCAPADES THE DOMESTIC GRUDGES OF A CROOKED
DOMESTIC GRUDGES OF A CROOKED UKRAINIAN PROSECUTOR HAVE
UKRAINIAN PROSECUTOR HAVE BLOSSOMED INTO A SCANDAL THAT IS
BLOSSOMED INTO A SCANDAL THAT IS LIKELY TO LEAD TO THE
LIKELY TO LEAD TO THE IMPEACHMENT OF AN AMERICAN
IMPEACHMENT OF AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. FOR MORE, MY GUESTS, THANK YOU
FOR MORE, MY GUESTS, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.
BOTH FOR BEING HERE. YOU WENT TO UKRAINE.
YOU WENT TO UKRAINE. YOU LOOKED AT THIS.
YOU LOOKED AT THIS. WHAT DID YOU SEE OVER THERE?
WHAT DID YOU SEE OVER THERE? >> FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO
>> FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT GUILIANI WAS
UNDERSTAND THAT GUILIANI WAS GETTING A LOT OF HIS INFORMATION
GETTING A LOT OF HIS INFORMATION FROM THIS DISGRACED PROSECUTOR
FROM THIS DISGRACED PROSECUTOR NAMED LUTSENKO WHO IS BASICALLY
NAMED LUTSENKO WHO IS BASICALLY FEEDING GUILIANI WHAT HE WANTS
FEEDING GUILIANI WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR.
TO HEAR. HE SINCE SAID AS MUCH.
HE SINCE SAID AS MUCH. HE HAD TO LEAVE UKRAINE BECAUSE
HE HAD TO LEAVE UKRAINE BECAUSE HE IS UNDER CRIMINAL
HE IS UNDER CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND ALSO NAMED IN
INVESTIGATION AND ALSO NAMED IN THAT INDICTMENT OF TWO
THAT INDICTMENT OF TWO GUILIANI’S COLLEAGUES AND TOLD
GUILIANI’S COLLEAGUES AND TOLD REPORTERS FROM THE "NEW YORK
REPORTERS FROM THE "NEW YORK TIMES" I’VE BEEN IN POLITICS A
TIMES" I’VE BEEN IN POLITICS A LONG TIME.
LONG TIME. I KNEW WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR.
I KNEW WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. HE THOUGHT WHAT THEY WANTED TO
HE THOUGHT WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR WAS THAT UKRAINE INTERVENED
HEAR WAS THAT UKRAINE INTERVENED IN THE 2016 ELECTION BY
IN THE 2016 ELECTION BY BASICALLY FRAMING PAUL MANAFORT.
BASICALLY FRAMING PAUL MANAFORT. TO BELIEVE ALL OF THIS YOU HAVE
TO BELIEVE ALL OF THIS YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE PAUL MANAFORT WHO IS
TO BELIEVE PAUL MANAFORT WHO IS IN PRISON IN PART BECAUSE OF
IN PRISON IN PART BECAUSE OF FAILING TO DISCLOSE AND PAY
FAILING TO DISCLOSE AND PAY TAXES ON THE MONEY HE TOOK OUT
TAXES ON THE MONEY HE TOOK OUT OF UKRAINE YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE
OF UKRAINE YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THE ANTI-CORRUPTION
THAT THE ANTI-CORRUPTION ACTIVISTS WHO PUBLICIZED THE
ACTIVISTS WHO PUBLICIZED THE FACT THAT MANAFORT HAD TAKEN
FACT THAT MANAFORT HAD TAKEN THIS MONEY, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE
THIS MONEY, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THEY SETTLED IT UP IN AN EFFORT
THEY SETTLED IT UP IN AN EFFORT TO UNDERMINE TRUMP AND IT WAS
TO UNDERMINE TRUMP AND IT WAS SOMEHOW FALSE AND PAUL MANAFORT
SOMEHOW FALSE AND PAUL MANAFORT IS WRONGLY ACCUSED.
IS WRONGLY ACCUSED. IT IS COMPLETELY PREPOSTEROUS.
IT IS COMPLETELY PREPOSTEROUS. THE WHOLE THING HAS THIS UP IS
THE WHOLE THING HAS THIS UP IS DOWN QUALITY THAT IS SOMETIMES I
DOWN QUALITY THAT IS SOMETIMES I THINK A LITTLE HARD TO CONVEY
THINK A LITTLE HARD TO CONVEY BECAUSE YOU CAN’T EXPECT
BECAUSE YOU CAN’T EXPECT AMERICANS TO KEEP ALL THESE
AMERICANS TO KEEP ALL THESE DIFFERENT UKRAINIAN CHARACTERS
DIFFERENT UKRAINIAN CHARACTERS AND KIND OF INTERNAL POLITICS OF
AND KIND OF INTERNAL POLITICS OF UKRAINE STRAIGHT.
UKRAINE STRAIGHT. WHEN YOU’RE THERE, IT IS JUST SO
WHEN YOU’RE THERE, IT IS JUST SO CLEAR THAT WHAT GUILIANI WAS
CLEAR THAT WHAT GUILIANI WAS DOING WAS BASICALLY SMEARING
DOING WAS BASICALLY SMEARING SOME OF THE MOST DEVOTED
SOME OF THE MOST DEVOTED ANTICORRUPTION FIGURES IN
ANTICORRUPTION FIGURES IN UKRAINE BECAUSE OF A VERY
UKRAINE BECAUSE OF A VERY CORRUPT PROSECUTOR WHO HAS A
CORRUPT PROSECUTOR WHO HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST THEM.
GRUDGE AGAINST THEM. >> I’M CURIOUS.
>> I’M CURIOUS. HOW DOES THIS STORY LOOK TO
HOW DOES THIS STORY LOOK TO FOLKS IN UKRAINE?
FOLKS IN UKRAINE? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM PEOPLE?
PEOPLE? HOW IS IT PLAYING OVER THERE?
HOW IS IT PLAYING OVER THERE? >> FIRST OF ALL, THEY’RE QUITE
>> FIRST OF ALL, THEY’RE QUITE FRIGHTENED ABOUT BEING DRAGGED
FRIGHTENED ABOUT BEING DRAGGED INTO THE MIDDLE OF AMERICAN
INTO THE MIDDLE OF AMERICAN DOMESTIC POLITICS AND REALLY
DOMESTIC POLITICS AND REALLY RELY ON AMERICAN SUPPORT.
RELY ON AMERICAN SUPPORT. SEVERAL PEOPLE TOLD ME THEY FELT
SEVERAL PEOPLE TOLD ME THEY FELT THEY WERE BEING, WERE AFRAID OF
THEY WERE BEING, WERE AFRAID OF BEING, QUOTE, LEFT ALONE WITH
BEING, QUOTE, LEFT ALONE WITH RUSSIA.
RUSSIA. THEY’RE CURRENTLY LOCKED IN THIS
THEY’RE CURRENTLY LOCKED IN THIS PROXY WAR WITH RUSSIA.
PROXY WAR WITH RUSSIA. AND SO TO HAVE THE AMERICAN
AND SO TO HAVE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT BASICALLY TURN ON THEM
PRESIDENT BASICALLY TURN ON THEM IS EXTREMELY DESTABLIZING.
IS EXTREMELY DESTABLIZING. THERE IS ALSO, THIS IS A COUNTRY
THERE IS ALSO, THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT HAS DEALT WITH SUCH A
THAT HAS DEALT WITH SUCH A HISTORY OF CORRUPTION.
HISTORY OF CORRUPTION. YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO THEY
YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO THEY HAD A REVOLUTION.
HAD A REVOLUTION. THEIR VERY CORRUPT RUSSIAN
THEIR VERY CORRUPT RUSSIAN ALIGNED OLIGARCH FLED THE
ALIGNED OLIGARCH FLED THE COUNTRY TO RUSSIA.
COUNTRY TO RUSSIA. THEY’VE TRIED TO TRANSCEND A LOT
THEY’VE TRIED TO TRANSCEND A LOT OF THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
OF THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT AND HIS
AMERICAN PRESIDENT AND HIS LAWYER BASICALLY DEMANDING THAT
LAWYER BASICALLY DEMANDING THAT THEY BECOME MORE CORRUPT.
THEY BECOME MORE CORRUPT. AND THEN FINALLY I THINK FOR THE
AND THEN FINALLY I THINK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SMEARED BY
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SMEARED BY GUILIANI IT’S HAD REAL
GUILIANI IT’S HAD REAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR THEM.
REPERCUSSIONS FOR THEM. AGAIN, BECAUSE AMERICA IS SO
AGAIN, BECAUSE AMERICA IS SO IMPORTANT IN UKRAINE THE
IMPORTANT IN UKRAINE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH AMERICA, TO
RELATIONSHIP WITH AMERICA, TO HAVE THE LAWYER COMING OUT AND
HAVE THE LAWYER COMING OUT AND SAYING ALL THESE TERRIBLE THINGS
SAYING ALL THESE TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT YOU, IT CAN KIND OF
ABOUT YOU, IT CAN KIND OF REVERBERATE.
REVERBERATE. >> SPEAKING OF RUDY GUILIANI,
>> SPEAKING OF RUDY GUILIANI, THERE IS THE NEW REPORT TONIGHT
THERE IS THE NEW REPORT TONIGHT FROM "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL"
FROM "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE
THAT FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAVE LOOKED EVEN AT HIS FINANCIAL
LOOKED EVEN AT HIS FINANCIAL RECORDS, HIS BANK RECORDS, WHAT
RECORDS, HIS BANK RECORDS, WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD RUDY GUILIANI
POTENTIALLY COULD RUDY GUILIANI BE FACING HERE?
BE FACING HERE? >> THERE’S JUST A HOST OF
>> THERE’S JUST A HOST OF INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON.
INVESTIGATIONS GOING ON. THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HAS
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HAS REPORTED THIS FOREIGN LOBBYING
REPORTED THIS FOREIGN LOBBYING REGISTRATION ACT VIOLATION THAT
REGISTRATION ACT VIOLATION THAT APPARENTLY THEY HAD BEEN LOOKING
APPARENTLY THEY HAD BEEN LOOKING INTO FOR SOMETIME ABOUT WHETHER
INTO FOR SOMETIME ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS INVOLVED IN
OR NOT HE WAS INVOLVED IN ACTUALLY LOBBYING FOR THIS
ACTUALLY LOBBYING FOR THIS CORRUPT PROSECUTOR.
CORRUPT PROSECUTOR. THAT IS ONE THING.
THAT IS ONE THING. ANOTHER IS WAS HE INVOLVED WITH
ANOTHER IS WAS HE INVOLVED WITH THIS FRICKE AND FRAC WHO WERE
THIS FRICKE AND FRAC WHO WERE INDICTED LAST WEEK?
INDICTED LAST WEEK? WAS HE PART OF THAT?
WAS HE PART OF THAT? WHAT WAS HIS ROLE?
WHAT WAS HIS ROLE? HOW MUCH MONEY DID HE GET?
HOW MUCH MONEY DID HE GET? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ABOUT
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ABOUT CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT CAMPAIGN
CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT CAMPAIGN VIOLATIONS?
VIOLATIONS? NOW WE KNOW THEY’RE LOOKING AT
NOW WE KNOW THEY’RE LOOKING AT ALL HIS BANK OR MANY OF HIS BANK
ALL HIS BANK OR MANY OF HIS BANK RECORDS AND HIS BUSINESS
RECORDS AND HIS BUSINESS DEALINGS IN UKRAINE WHICH COULD
DEALINGS IN UKRAINE WHICH COULD BRING UP A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER
BRING UP A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER THINGS.
THINGS. THERE’S REALLY THREE AREAS OF
THERE’S REALLY THREE AREAS OF INVESTIGATION GOING ON WITH HIM
INVESTIGATION GOING ON WITH HIM RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. AND WERE I HE, I WOULD BE
AND WERE I HE, I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, A,
CONCERNED THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, A, THEY’RE LOOKING AT HIS STUFF.
THEY’RE LOOKING AT HIS STUFF. B, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME
B, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF SURVEILLANCE IN THE FRIK
KIND OF SURVEILLANCE IN THE FRIK AND FRAC INDICTMENT
AND FRAC INDICTMENT INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. YOU CAN TELL THAT BY LOOKING AT
YOU CAN TELL THAT BY LOOKING AT IT.
IT. AND, C, EITHER FRIK OR FRAC
AND, C, EITHER FRIK OR FRAC MIGHT FLIP ON HIM.
MIGHT FLIP ON HIM. THIS IS A GUY WITH A LOT OF
THIS IS A GUY WITH A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
PROBLEMS. LET ME GIVE AWE QUICK "D" HE
LET ME GIVE AWE QUICK "D" HE HASN’T BEEN INTERVIEWED YET.
HASN’T BEEN INTERVIEWED YET. WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT FEDERAL
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS AND THE WAY WE’VE
INVESTIGATIONS AND THE WAY WE’VE ALWAYS DONE THEM, SORT OF LIKE A
ALWAYS DONE THEM, SORT OF LIKE A SWIRLING TORNADO.
SWIRLING TORNADO. YOU GO AROUND AND AROUND AND
YOU GO AROUND AND AROUND AND EVERY WAY YOU CAN BEFORE YOU GET
EVERY WAY YOU CAN BEFORE YOU GET TO THE CENTER AND ACTUALLY
TO THE CENTER AND ACTUALLY INTERVIEW THE SUBJECT OR THE
INTERVIEW THE SUBJECT OR THE TARGET OF THE INVESTIGATION.
TARGET OF THE INVESTIGATION. THAT LOOKS PRETTY MUCH TO BE
THAT LOOKS PRETTY MUCH TO BE WHERE RUDY GUILIANI IS TODAY.
WHERE RUDY GUILIANI IS TODAY. >> HE HAS NOT SPOKEN TO FEDERAL
>> HE HAS NOT SPOKEN TO FEDERAL PROSECUTORS YET BUT IN TERMS OF
PROSECUTORS YET BUT IN TERMS OF OFFERING A DEFENSE THE "NEW YORK
OFFERING A DEFENSE THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTS THIS, QUOTE, MR.
TIMES" REPORTS THIS, QUOTE, MR. GUILIANI SAID THAT FEDERAL
GUILIANI SAID THAT FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAD NO GROUNDS TO
PROSECUTORS HAD NO GROUNDS TO CHARGE HIM WITH FOREIGN LOBBYING
CHARGE HIM WITH FOREIGN LOBBYING DISCLOSURE VIOLATIONS BECAUSE,
DISCLOSURE VIOLATIONS BECAUSE, HE SAID, HE WAS ACTING ON BEHALF
HE SAID, HE WAS ACTING ON BEHALF OF MR. TRUMP.
OF MR. TRUMP. CYNTHIA, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
CYNTHIA, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT DEFENSE?
THAT DEFENSE? I KNOW YOU POINTED TO SEVERAL
I KNOW YOU POINTED TO SEVERAL POSSIBLE AREAS BUT IN TERMS OF
POSSIBLE AREAS BUT IN TERMS OF LOBBYING HE SAYS, LOOK.
LOBBYING HE SAYS, LOOK. THE PRESIDENT AUTHORIZED ME,
THE PRESIDENT AUTHORIZED ME, DEPUTIZED ME TO DO THIS.
DEPUTIZED ME TO DO THIS. >> THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY
>> THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
EXCLUSIVE. HE COULD HAVE FOREIGN LOBBYING
HE COULD HAVE FOREIGN LOBBYING VIOLATIONS AND COULD BE DOING
VIOLATIONS AND COULD BE DOING THE INVESTIGATION FOR THE
THE INVESTIGATION FOR THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THE
WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THE PRESIDENTIAL -- HIS COMMENT
PRESIDENTIAL -- HIS COMMENT ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL
ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL INVESTIGATION HURTS THE
INVESTIGATION HURTS THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. IT’S JUST ONE MORE PIECE OF
IT’S JUST ONE MORE PIECE OF PROOF THAT THEY WERE NOSING
PROOF THAT THEY WERE NOSING AROUND IMPROPERLY IN THE
AROUND IMPROPERLY IN THE UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. HE HAS ESSENTIALLY THROWN THE
HE HAS ESSENTIALLY THROWN THE PRESIDENT UNDER THE BUS IN THAT.
PRESIDENT UNDER THE BUS IN THAT. DON’T THINK YOU CAN’T DO "A" AND
DON’T THINK YOU CAN’T DO "A" AND "B" AND "C."
"B" AND "C." HE COULD HAVE DONE IT ALL OR
HE COULD HAVE DONE IT ALL OR NONE OF IT.
NONE OF IT. WE’LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
WE’LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THERE IS.
WHAT THERE IS. IT IS NOT A DEFENSE IN OTHER
IT IS NOT A DEFENSE IN OTHER WORDS.
WORDS. >> THE ARC OF THE RUDY GUILIANI
>> THE ARC OF THE RUDY GUILIANI PUBLIC STORY, EVERYBODY CAN
PUBLIC STORY, EVERYBODY CAN THINK BACK TO 2001, 2002,
THINK BACK TO 2001, 2002, AMERICA’S MAYOR.
AMERICA’S MAYOR. I DUG UP AN NBC POLL.
I DUG UP AN NBC POLL. HIS NEGATIVE RATING WAS 2% BACK
HIS NEGATIVE RATING WAS 2% BACK IN EARLY 2002.
IN EARLY 2002. FAST FORWARD 17, 18 YEARS AND
FAST FORWARD 17, 18 YEARS AND THIS IS WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
THIS IS WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
TONIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE WITH VERY, VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS
WITH VERY, VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS WHO GETS INVOLVED WITH DONALD
WHO GETS INVOLVED WITH DONALD TRUMP DISGRACES AND RUINS
