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start trading today. >>> OUR NEXT GUEST WAS ATTACKED
>>> OUR NEXT GUEST WAS ATTACKED BY DONALD TRUMP LAST NIGHT AFTER
BY DONALD TRUMP LAST NIGHT AFTER HE APPEARED ON "THE 11th HOUR"
HE APPEARED ON "THE 11th HOUR" WITH BRIAN WILLIAMS.
WITH BRIAN WILLIAMS. DONALD TRUMP SAID I JUST WATCHED
DONALD TRUMP SAID I JUST WATCHED A WORLD CLASS LOSER TIM O’BRYAN
A WORLD CLASS LOSER TIM O’BRYAN I HAVEN’T SEEN OR SPOKEN TO IN
I HAVEN’T SEEN OR SPOKEN TO IN MANY YEARS AND KNOWING NOTHING
MANY YEARS AND KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT ME EXCEPT HE WROTE A
ABOUT ME EXCEPT HE WROTE A FAILED HIT PIECE BOOK ABOUT ME
FAILED HIT PIECE BOOK ABOUT ME 15 YEARS AGO.
15 YEARS AGO. TIM O’BRYAN WROTE A SUCCESSFUL
TIM O’BRYAN WROTE A SUCCESSFUL BOOK THAT INCLUDED A DISMANTLING
BOOK THAT INCLUDED A DISMANTLING OF DONALD TRUMP’S CLAIM HE WAS A
OF DONALD TRUMP’S CLAIM HE WAS A BILLIONAIRE AND LOST HIS LIABLE
BILLIONAIRE AND LOST HIS LIABLE SUIT AGAINST TIM O’BRYAN ABOUT
SUIT AGAINST TIM O’BRYAN ABOUT THAT BOOK.
THAT BOOK. WE INVITED TIM O’BRYAN TO
WE INVITED TIM O’BRYAN TO DISCUSS MORE INFORMATION WILL BE
DISCUSS MORE INFORMATION WILL BE HANDED OVER AS THE BANKS
HANDED OVER AS THE BANKS CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO SUBPOENAS
CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO SUBPOENAS THAT SENT IN APRIL AND JOINING
THAT SENT IN APRIL AND JOINING US IS TIM O’BRIAN, THE EXECUTIVE
US IS TIM O’BRIAN, THE EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF BLOOMBERG NATION AND A
EDITOR OF BLOOMBERG NATION AND A FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR FOR
FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR FOR THE EAST HERBERN SOUTHERN DISTRI
THE EAST HERBERN SOUTHERN DISTRI NEW YORK.
NEW YORK. TIM, CONGRATULATIONS.
TIM, CONGRATULATIONS. IT’S BEEN YEARS SINCE HE
IT’S BEEN YEARS SINCE HE ATTACKED YOU.
ATTACKED YOU. >> FOUR YEARS.
>> FOUR YEARS. >> THAT MEANS HE REALLY HATES
>> THAT MEANS HE REALLY HATES YOU WHEN HE DOESN’T ATTACK YOU
YOU WHEN HE DOESN’T ATTACK YOU FOR YEARS BECAUSE HE HATES
FOR YEARS BECAUSE HE HATES GIVING YOU ATTENTION BUT YOU
GIVING YOU ATTENTION BUT YOU TRIPPED HIM LAST NIGHT.
TRIPPED HIM LAST NIGHT. >> WE TALKED ABOUT RATE SIS M
>> WE TALKED ABOUT RATE SIS M AND THAT SET HIM OFF.
AND THAT SET HIM OFF. >> THAT WILL DO IT.
>> THAT WILL DO IT. LET’S SEE IF YOU CAN GET HIM
LET’S SEE IF YOU CAN GET HIM GOING TONIGHT.
GOING TONIGHT. >> MONEY NOWNOW.
>> MONEY NOWNOW. >> THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP
>> THIS IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID WAS THE RED LINE IF ROBERT
SAID WAS THE RED LINE IF ROBERT MUELLER CROSSED THIS LINE AND
MUELLER CROSSED THIS LINE AND INVESTIGATED HIS FINANCES.
INVESTIGATED HIS FINANCES. THE RED LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED.
THE RED LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED. CONGRESS IS GETTING TO THE
CONGRESS IS GETTING TO THE FINANCES.
FINANCES. >> IT’S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ROBERT
>> IT’S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ROBERT MUELLER DECIDED NOT TO GO THERE
MUELLER DECIDED NOT TO GO THERE AND I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE HE
AND I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE HE DID BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS
DID BECAUSE I THINK WHAT IS LOOMING OVER DONALD TRUMP I
LOOMING OVER DONALD TRUMP I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO BE LEFT
THINK THERE IS A LOT TO BE LEFT IN THE MID 2000s AND AFTER THEY
IN THE MID 2000s AND AFTER THEY GOT IN TROUBLE FOR THAT, THE
GOT IN TROUBLE FOR THAT, THE FAMILY SAID NO, NO, IT CAME FROM
FAMILY SAID NO, NO, IT CAME FROM OUR BUSINESS.
OUR BUSINESS. THEY SAID SOME CAME FROM BANK
THEY SAID SOME CAME FROM BANK LOANS.
LOANS. THEY HAD VARYING EXPLANATIONS
THEY HAD VARYING EXPLANATIONS BUT NO QUESTION THAT A LOT OF
BUT NO QUESTION THAT A LOT OF MONEY CAME INTO THAT
MONEY CAME INTO THAT ORGANIZATION IN THE MID 2000s
ORGANIZATION IN THE MID 2000s LONG BEFORE HE RAN FOR
LONG BEFORE HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. I THINK A GOOD INVESTIGATION
I THINK A GOOD INVESTIGATION WILL GET IT, WHERE DID THAT
WILL GET IT, WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM AND DID IT COME
MONEY COME FROM AND DID IT COME FROM KID
FROM KID FROM QUID PRO QUO.
FROM QUID PRO QUO. >> THAT WOULD EXPLAIN VIRTUALLY
>> THAT WOULD EXPLAIN VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S
EVERYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S BEHAVIOR TOWARD RUSSIA.
BEHAVIOR TOWARD RUSSIA. THE IMPRESSION IS THAT DONALD
THE IMPRESSION IS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS FIGHTING AND SUCCEEDING
TRUMP IS FIGHTING AND SUCCEEDING AT LEAST IN DELAYING THE
AT LEAST IN DELAYING THE EXECUTION OF EVERY SUBPOENA OUT
EXECUTION OF EVERY SUBPOENA OUT THERE FROM NEW YORK STATE
THERE FROM NEW YORK STATE AUTHORITIES TO CONGRESSIONAL
AUTHORITIES TO CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITIES GOING AFTER ANYTHING
AUTHORITIES GOING AFTER ANYTHING FINANCIAL BUT HE’S SLOWING DOWN
FINANCIAL BUT HE’S SLOWING DOWN SOME OF IT BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
SOME OF IT BUT NOT ALL OF IT. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. I THINK THE KEYWORD THERE IS
I THINK THE KEYWORD THERE IS DELAY BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THIS
DELAY BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A
IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
PERMANENT SOLUTION. WE KNOW AT LEAST FOR A FEW OF
WE KNOW AT LEAST FOR A FEW OF THE LAWSUITS THAT HE FILED TO
THE LAWSUITS THAT HE FILED TO KEEP HIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION
KEEP HIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION FROM COMING TO LIGHT, HE LOST AT
FROM COMING TO LIGHT, HE LOST AT LEAST ON THE LOWER COURT LEVEL.
LEAST ON THE LOWER COURT LEVEL. THESE HAVE BEEN APPEALED AND
THESE HAVE BEEN APPEALED AND WE’RE EXPECTING THESE DECISIONS
WE’RE EXPECTING THESE DECISIONS TO COME OUT RELATIVELY SOON BUT
TO COME OUT RELATIVELY SOON BUT AT LEAST IN NEW YORK AND IN THE
AT LEAST IN NEW YORK AND IN THE DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA, YOU HAD
DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA, YOU HAD LOWER COURT JUDGES SAY
LOWER COURT JUDGES SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT, CONGRESS HAS A
ABSOLUTELY NOT, CONGRESS HAS A LEGITIMATE PURPOSE FOR ASKING
LEGITIMATE PURPOSE FOR ASKING FOR THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION
FOR THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION SO THE BANK SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE
SO THE BANK SHOULD HAVE TO GIVE IT OVER.
IT OVER. WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT THE
WHAT’S INTERESTING ABOUT THE REPORTING THAT CAME OUT TODAY IS
REPORTING THAT CAME OUT TODAY IS THAT THIS, SOME OF THIS
THAT THIS, SOME OF THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS ALREADY
FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS ALREADY COMING TO CONGRESS, RIGHT?
COMING TO CONGRESS, RIGHT? THEY ARE GETTING DOCUMENTS FROM
THEY ARE GETTING DOCUMENTS FROM OTHER BANKS PROBABLY RECORDS
OTHER BANKS PROBABLY RECORDS RELATING TO OTHER PEOPLE BUT
RELATING TO OTHER PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE ALREADY GETTING THIS
THEY ARE ALREADY GETTING THIS INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE THEIR
THIS IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE THEIR FIGHT IN MY OPINION EASIER WHEN
FIGHT IN MY OPINION EASIER WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING THIS
IT COMES TO GETTING THIS INFORMATION FROM DEUTSCHE BANK
INFORMATION FROM DEUTSCHE BANK AND INSTITUTIONS CHALLENGING
AND INSTITUTIONS CHALLENGING THAT.
THAT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT POINT, A
>> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT POINT, A SUBPOENA MAY HAVE GONE OUT.
SUBPOENA MAY HAVE GONE OUT. WE’RE NOT EXACTLY SURE IN THE
WE’RE NOT EXACTLY SURE IN THE REPORTING WHAT THEY HAVE AND
REPORTING WHAT THEY HAVE AND WHERE THEY HAVE GOTTEN IT BUT
WHERE THEY HAVE GOTTEN IT BUT LET’S SAY THE SUBPOENA, PAUL
LET’S SAY THE SUBPOENA, PAUL MANAFORT’S RECORDS HAVING TO DO
MANAFORT’S RECORDS HAVING TO DO WITH PURCHASES HE MADE OF HIS
WITH PURCHASES HE MADE OF HIS TRUMP TOWER APARTMENT.
TRUMP TOWER APARTMENT. THAT COULD REVEAL SOMETHING
THAT COULD REVEAL SOMETHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AT THE SAME
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AT THE SAME TIME.
TIME. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IT’S KIND OF A WAY OF LOOKING AT
IT’S KIND OF A WAY OF LOOKING AT BOTH ENDS OF THE TRANSACTION,
BOTH ENDS OF THE TRANSACTION, RIGHT?
RIGHT? THERE IS A CONCEPT IN THE LAW
THERE IS A CONCEPT IN THE LAW YOU HAVE TO HAVE STANDING IN
YOU HAVE TO HAVE STANDING IN ORDER TO CHALLENGE SOMETHING IN
ORDER TO CHALLENGE SOMETHING IN THE COURTS, WHICH JUST MEANS YOU
THE COURTS, WHICH JUST MEANS YOU HAVE TO SHOW SOME SORT OF LEGAL
HAVE TO SHOW SOME SORT OF LEGAL INJURY TO THAT.
INJURY TO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, TRUMP HAS CLAIMED
OBVIOUSLY, TRUMP HAS CLAIMED THAT HE HAS STANDING FOR THE
THAT HE HAS STANDING FOR THE BANKS NOT TO RELEASE FINANCIAL
BANKS NOT TO RELEASE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ABOUT HIM.
INFORMATION ABOUT HIM. HOWEVER, IF THE BANKS HAVE ASKED
HOWEVER, IF THE BANKS HAVE ASKED FOR FINANCIAL INFORMATION FROM
FOR FINANCIAL INFORMATION FROM SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAPPENS TO
SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAPPENS TO CONCERN FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS
CONCERN FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT, HE WOULD NOT
WITH THE PRESIDENT, HE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE STANDING TO
NECESSARILY HAVE STANDING TO CHALLENGE THAT DOCUMENT REQUEST
CHALLENGE THAT DOCUMENT REQUEST OR SUBPOENA WHICH MAY BE HOW
OR SUBPOENA WHICH MAY BE HOW THEY ARE GETTING THE DOCUMENTS
THEY ARE GETTING THE DOCUMENTS TO CONGRESS NOW.
TO CONGRESS NOW. >> TIM, HE MAY NOT ALSO HAVE
>> TIM, HE MAY NOT ALSO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT.
KNOWLEDGE OF IT. THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS HE
THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS HE DISCOVERED IN THE TRUMP
DISCOVERED IN THE TRUMP FINANCIAL MAZE, THERE ARE SO
FINANCIAL MAZE, THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS IN THAT THEY MIGHT NOT
MANY WAYS IN THAT THEY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY ALERT TRUMP
NECESSARILY ALERT TRUMP ORGANIZATION PEOPLE OR DONALD
ORGANIZATION PEOPLE OR DONALD TRUMP THAT THEY ARE GOING IN
TRUMP THAT THEY ARE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
THAT DIRECTION. >> WOULDN’T WANT TO TO PRESERVE
>> WOULDN’T WANT TO TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE
THE INTEGRITY OF THE INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WHETHER
TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE LOOKING AT
OR NOT THEY ARE LOOKING AT OLIGARCHS OR WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS
OLIGARCHS OR WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD THEIR CLAWS
THAT MIGHT HAVE HAD THEIR CLAWS INTO HIM AND WHAT BARRETT SAID,
INTO HIM AND WHAT BARRETT SAID, THE BANKS THAT COMPILED WITH THE
THE BANKS THAT COMPILED WITH THE SUBPOENAS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY
SUBPOENAS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO FREELY DO THAT WHICH WOULD
TO FREELY DO THAT WHICH WOULD SUGGESTION THERE IS INDIVIDUALS
SUGGESTION THERE IS INDIVIDUALS AT THE BANK WHO COOPERATE WITH
AT THE BANK WHO COOPERATE WITH THE INVESTIGATION OR CAN’T GET
THE INVESTIGATION OR CAN’T GET IN THE WAY OF THEIR FINANCIAL
IN THE WAY OF THEIR FINANCIAL RECORDS BEING TURNED OVER WHO
RECORDS BEING TURNED OVER WHO COULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND THAT’S
COULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND THAT’S WHERE THE NAMES OF PEOPLE LIKE
WHERE THE NAMES OF PEOPLE LIKE OCHO
OCHO DERIPASKA SURFACE.
DERIPASKA SURFACE. >> AS AN EXPERT ON THE TRUMP
>> AS AN EXPERT ON THE TRUMP FINANCES AND LOW POINTS OF THE
FINANCES AND LOW POINTS OF THE TRUMP FINANCES, THERE APPEARS TO
TRUMP FINANCES, THERE APPEARS TO BE FROM THE OUTSIDE AN INCREASE
BE FROM THE OUTSIDE AN INCREASE IN HIS ABILITY TO OBTAIN MONEY
IN HIS ABILITY TO OBTAIN MONEY AND HE LOOKS TO ME AT THAT STAGE
AND HE LOOKS TO ME AT THAT STAGE LIKE SOMEONE WHO NEEDS
LIKE SOMEONE WHO NEEDS CO-SIGNERS.
CO-SIGNERS. OUT THERE IN THE WORLD YOU WOULD
OUT THERE IN THE WORLD YOU WOULD SAY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH DEBT, YOU
SAY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH DEBT, YOU CAN’T GET A CAR LOAN, CAN
CAN’T GET A CAR LOAN, CAN SOMEBODY SIGN THIS FOR YOU?
SOMEBODY SIGN THIS FOR YOU? HE WOULD NEED BIG CO-SIGNERS FOR
HE WOULD NEED BIG CO-SIGNERS FOR THE MONEY HE WANTED.
THE MONEY HE WANTED. >> PARTICULARLY LIKE WHEN HE
>> PARTICULARLY LIKE WHEN HE BOUGHT THE GOLF COURSE IN
BOUGHT THE GOLF COURSE IN SCOTLAND IN THE 2000s.
SCOTLAND IN THE 2000s. HE SAID THAT’S SELF-FUNDED.
HE SAID THAT’S SELF-FUNDED. I’M SKEPTICAL THAT’S THE CASE.
I’M SKEPTICAL THAT’S THE CASE. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLOSELY
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLOSELY LOOKED AT.
LOOKED AT. >> THE MODEST PHRASING OF TIM
>> THE MODEST PHRASING OF TIM O’BRIEN, VERY SKEPTICAL OF
