>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,
EVERYBODY.
MY FIRST GUEST TONIGHT STARRED
IN. "THELMA & LOUISE," ONE OF
THE GREATEST DEPICTIONS OF
FEMALE FRIENDSHIP OF ALL TIME.
HER NEW FX SHOW "FEUD" IS A
LITTLE DIFFERENT.
>> YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'VE
BEEN SAYING ABOUT ME IN THE
PRESS.
>> ABOUT YOU AND JOE, YOU MEAN?
>> IS IT IN THE FRENCH PAPERS,
TOO?
>> IN ANY LANGUAGE.
ALL THEY WANT IS A CAT FIGHT.
YOU HAVE TO STOP GIVING IT TO
THEM.
>> I KNOW.
I SHOULD BE KINDER.
I WANT TO BE, BUT SHE SETS ME
OFF.
>> I KNOW THE IMPULSE WELL.
BUT TWO WORDS-- "NO COMMENT."
>> EASY FOR YOU TO SAY, MY JOAN
IS FAR WORSE THAN YOUR JOAN.
>> NOT POSSIBLE.
>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME SUSAN
SARANDON!
♪ ♪ ♪
( APPLAUSE )
>> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> Stephen: WELL, MADAM, YOU
WERE HERE LAST SUMMER YOU WERE
HERE.
>> I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION.
>> Stephen: JUNE, I THINK IT
WAS BEFORE-- EARLY JULY.
IT WAS BEFORE THE CONVENTIONS, I
THINK, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS AT THE
TIME.
YOU WERE A BIG BERNIE FAN.
>> YES, STILL AM.
>> Stephen: SORRY HE DIDN'T
GET IT.
SORRY HE DIDN'T GET IT.
YOU SAID SOMETHING VERY
INTERESTING AT THE TIME, BECAUSE
AT THAT POINT IT DIDN'T LOOK
LIKE BERNIE WAS GOING TO GET THE
NOMINATION.
AT THAT POINT WE KNEW TRUMP HAD
IT.
AND YOU SAID SOME PEOPLE FEEL
THAT TRUMP MIGHT BRING ABOUT THE
REVOLUTION IMMEDIATELY.
"A," HOW IS THAT GOING?
( LAUGHTER )
WHAT'S YOUR-- WHAT'S YOUR
ASSESSMENT OF HOW THE REVOLUTION
IS GOING?
>> WELL, I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU
ASKED.
NOT REALLY, BUT OKAY, WE'LL GET
INTO IT.
WELL, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MANY
TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE
FROM ALL PARTIES STORMING AND
KNOCKING ON THE DOORS OF THEIR
REPRESENTATIVREPRESENTATIVES AND
AND SCREAMING AND YELLING?
>> Stephen: NOT SINCE 2010.
>> NO, NOT SINCE THE 70s, I
THINK.
THIS IS REALLY, LIKE, OUT OF
CONTROL NOW.
THERE ARE TOWN HALL MEETINGS
EVERYWHERE.
AND I SAW ONE IN CALIFORNIA
WHERE THEY WERE SCREAMING ABOUT
ICE COMING AND TAKING PEOPLE.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE REALLY WEAK
NOW, BECAUSE THE CRACKS HAVE LET
THE LIGHT IN, AS LEONARD COHEN
WOULD SAY.
YOU NEED THAT CRACK.
NOW PEOPLE ARE WEAK.
MOST OF THE--
>> Stephen: THE CRACK IN OUR
POLITICAL SYSTEM?
>> THE CRACK IN EVERYTHING.
GOLDMAN SACHS HAS BEEN IN
POLITICS FOREVER.
NOW WE'RE NOTICING BECAUSE THIS
GUY IS SUCH A BOZO HE'S DOING
EVERYTHING SO BADLY, THAT HE'S
NOT SLICK, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
I MEAN, ALL THE FRACKING THAT'S
BEEN GOING ON, THE PIPELINES
WERE ALL THERE BEFORE TRUMP GOT
IN.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.
BUT NOW, EVERYBODY'S WEAK.
THEY'RE ENERGIZED.
RIGHT?
EVERYBODY IS LIKE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
THEY'RE CALLING THEIR SENATORS.
THEY'RE DONATING TO ALL OF THESE
GROUPS.
YOU'RE FUNNIER.
>> Stephen: OH, THANK YOU.
>> DON'T YOU THINK?
>> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THANK YOU TO MY FAVORITE GUEST.
MY FAVORITE GUEST OF ALL TIME.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE SEEING
TRUMP'S CRACK RIGHT NOW?
I I THINK I SAW HIS CARTOON
CRACK EARLIER.
>> SEE WHAT I MEAN?
YOU NEVER COULD HAVE DONE THAT
WITH OBAMA, RIGHT?
SHOULD HAS GIVEN YOU SUCH RICH
OPPORTUNITIES GLI WOULDN'T MIND
SIEG SOOEG OBAMA'S CRACK.
WHEN YOU SAY "REVOLUTION--" LET
ME ASK YOU SOMETHING THERE,
REVOLUTION HIP PEP DO YOU MEAN
REVELATION LOOUGZ IN THE HEAD,
REVOLUTION IN OUR HEARTS--
>> ALL OF THE ABOVE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU MEAN BRICK
THROUGH THE WINDOW, LINE ALL THE
RICH PEOPLE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
REVOLUTIONS EVENTUALLY GET
THERE.
>> YOU'RE WATCHING THE WRONG
MOVIE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING
ENGAGED IN THE SYSTEM, HOLDING
THEIR REPRESENTATIVES
RESPONSIBLE.
WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY REAL
PROGRESSIVES, PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING TO GET US HEALTH CARE,
COLLEGE EDUCATION, AND
INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE'RE IN AN OLIGARCHY RIGHT
NOW, RIGHT?
( APPLAUSE )
AND PEOPLE UPPER SAYING, "WE
DON'T WANT THE STATUS QUO."
THE STATUS QUO IS NOT WORKING.
THE ONLY CANDIDATE, AS STUPID AS
HE-- DIDN'T GET ANY SPECIFICS--
WAS ONE-- WASN'T HILLARY
CLINTON-- WAS TRUMP.
SO PEOPLE NEEDED A CHANGE.
THEY WANTED A CHANGE.
NOW THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING
THEY DIDN'T EXPECT.
BUT THEY'RE WRITING AND THEY'RE
CALLING AND THEY'RE YOUNG
PEOPLE-- THE MILLENNIALS ARE ON
FIRE.
US OLD FOLKS MAY NOT SEE THIS
EVERY DAY, BUT THEY KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON.
>> Stephen: I'M A MILLENNIAL.
>> ARE YOU?
>> Stephen: OH, YEAH.
I'M YOUNGER THAN 1,000 YEARS
OLD.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> OH, THEN THAT MEANS I AM,
TOO.
OH!
>> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONSES,
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU STILL KEEP IN TOUCH WITH
BERNIE?
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS TALKED.
>> I TALK TO JANE MORE THAN
BERNIE.
HE'S SO BUSY.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S HE DOING?
>> HE'S INTRODUCING A BILL WITH
SOME OTHER PEOPLE TO GET
SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE.
( APPLAUSE )
>> YEAH.
EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO
HEALTH CARE.
SO HE'S PUSHING THAT THROUGH.
HE HAD A GREAT BILL TO LOWER THE
PRICES OF PHARMACEUTICALS, BUS
BUTT SOME OF OUR DEMOCRATS, LIKE
THE CORY BOOKERS OF THE WORLD,
VOTED AGAINST IT, SO IT DIDN'T
PASS.
>> Stephen: OH!
YOU GOT CALLED OUT, CORY BOOKER.
YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT FROM
SUSAN SARANDON?
YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT CORY
BOOKER.
>> SIX DEMOCRATS-- YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS
THAT ARE NOT VOTING THE RIGHT
WAY IN TERMS OF APPROVING PEOPLE
AND WHAT THEIRITIZE ARE.
GET THE MONEY OUT.
THE MONEY HAS TO COME OUT.
>> Stephen: THE D.N.C., THE
NEW HEAD OF THE D.N.C., FORMER
SECRETARY OF LABOR-- HELP ME OUT
HERE.
>> PEREZ.
>> Stephen: PEREZ, EXACTLY.
HE ASKED FOR EVERYBODY IN THE
D.N.C. TO RESIGN.
HE CLEARED HOUSE IN THE D.N.C.
DOES THAT IMPRESS YOU IN ANY
WAY?
>> EXCEPT HE'S AN ESTABLISHMENT
AND HE ALREADY SAYS SADE HE'S
GOING TO KEEP ACCEPTING
CORPORATE MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL CHANGE
YOU.
>> Stephen: SAID MAYBE THE
DEMOCRATS WILL TAKE A PAGE FROM
THE TEA PARTY, FROM THE TEA
PARTY.
THEATRE ONES THAT KEEP THE
REPUBLICANS FROM GETTING
ANYTHING DONE.
>> NO, NO, I MEAN HOW THEY GOT
POWER.
NOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
I MEAN, THEY STARTED AT THE
BOTTOM.
WHAT'S HAPPENED NOW WITH BERNIE
IS THAT HE'S ENCOURAGED PEOPLE
TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
SO WE HAVE-- I MEAN, THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE LOST EVERYTHING--
MAYORAL SPOTS, JUDGES-- NOT JUST
THE TWO-- NOT JUST THE SENATE
AND THE HOUSE AND THE PRED PEREZ
AGAINST, EVERYTHING.
AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE TEA
PARTY STARTED AT THE BOTTOM.
EVERYBODY OUT THERE, PEOPLE THAT
FEEL THEY SHOULD RUN FOR THEIR
LOCAL OFFICES, THEY SHOULD DO
THAT.
THEY SHOULD GO TO THEIR SCHOOL
BOARDS.
THIS IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY DID
AND IT WORKED.
THEY STARTED WORKING UP.
PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED.
ISN'T THAT WHAT I DEMOCRACY IS,
I THINK?
>> Stephen: SURE, ENGAGE ON A
LOCAL LEVEL
( APPLAUSE )
ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL, TIP
O'NEILL SAID.
>> YOU SHOULD MAYBE RUN.
>> Stephen: ME?
I TRIED TO RUN TWICE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> THAT WAS THEN.
THIS IS NOW.
WE'VE GOT TO GET YOUR SISTER UP
THERE AGAIN AND EVERYTHING.
>> Stephen: THAT WOULD BE
NICE.
HER, NOT ME.
MY BROTHER IS OUT THERE.
>> YOU'RE HAVING TOO MUCH FUN.
WAIT UNTIL TRUMP LEAVES.
TOO MUCH RICH MEMORY NOW?
>> Stephen: ON FX, YOU'RE
DOING "FEUD," WHERE YOU PLAY
BETTE DAVIS.
>> YES, SIR.
>> Stephen: AND THIS IS THE
FAMOUS STORY WHEN SHE'S WORKING
WITH JOAN CRAWFORD AND MAKING
"WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY
JANE," RIGHT?
WERE THEY REALLY RIVALS.
>> EVENTUALLY THEY DID TREAT
EACH OTHER POORLY BECAUSE-- DID
YOU EVER WATCH THOSE "REAL
HOUSEWIVES" SHOWS.
>> Stephen: NO.
>> ME OTHE, EITHER, BUT I HEARD
HAPPENED WHAPS-- TO KEEP THE
DRAMA GOING, FOR LACK OF
IMAGINATION AND IN TERMS OF
OTHER PLOTS THEY GET EVERYBODY
FIGHTING.
>> Stephen: AND THEY GET
DRUNK, TOO.
>> THESE GALS WERE ALREADY
DRUNK.
BETTY AND JOIN-- MAYBE NOT ON
THE SET FOR BETTY.
>> Stephen: IT'S
UNPROFESSIONAL TO DRINK ON THE
SET.
I JUST THINK IT WAS...
( CLINK GLASSES )
( APPLAUSE )
>> SO HEDDA HOPPER, WHO WAS
INCREDIBLY INFLUENTIAL, ALSO
WITH THE BLACK LIST.
IN THOSE DAYS, THE COLUMNISTS
THEY DIDN'T HAVE WHAT WE HAVE IN
TERMS OF SO MUCH SOCIAL MEDIA.
SO THEY REALLY COULD RUIN
PEOPLE.
AND HER COLUMN NEEDED THEM TO
FIGHT, AND THEY LEAKED THINGS
THAT WEREN'T TRUE, WHICH
AGGRAVATED IT MORE.
AND ALSO THEY SLEPT WAY LOT OF
THE SAME PEOPLE.
>> Stephen: JOAN CRAWFORD AND
BETTE DAVIS.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: NOT AT THE SAME
TIME, RIGHT?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE A
BONDING EXPERIENCE.
>> Stephen: COULD HAVE BEEN.
HERE'S BETTE.
HERE'S BETTE DAVIS BACK IN THE
DAY.
I TOTALLY SEE IT.
LOOK AT THAT.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
( APPLAUSE )
DID YOU-- WERE YOU INTIMIDATED
AT ALL PLAYING A HOLLYWOOD ICON
LIKE THIS?
>> IT TOOK ME ABOUT FIVE OR SIX
WEEKS TO GET THE FEAR-FUN RATIO
IN MY FAVOR.
I WAS ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED.
BECAUSE SHE'S VERY
IDIOSYNCRATIC.
NOT ONLY DOES EVERYBODY KNOW
HER, AND AN EXAGGERATED DRAG
QUEEN VERSION OF HER BUT, YOU
KNOW, SHE STRESSES WEIRD
SENTENCES AND SHE HAS AN ODD
PATTERN SO, YEAH, I WAS
HORRIFIED AT THE IDEA OF
CARRYING THIS OFF.
>> Stephen: DID YOU EVER MEET
HER WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER?
>> NO, BUT THE IDEA OF PLAYING
HER HAS BEEN CHASING ME FOR A
LONG TIME.
SHE SENT-- HER DAUGHTER WROTE A
HORRIBLE BOOK.
YEAR, AS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN
WOMAN, SHE WROTE THIS HORRIBLE
BOOK.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN SHE FIRST GOT
IN TOUCH WITH ME AND ASKED ME TO
DO HER STORY.
>> Stephen: BETTE DAVIS DID.
>> BETTE DAVIS, AND I WAS SO
YOUNG AND DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO
IT AND MY AGENTS AT THE TIME
WERE KIND OF LAME AND NOTHING
HAPPENED.
>> Stephen: WAS YOUR AGENT
CORY BOOKER?
BECAUSE YOU ALREADY CALLED HIM
OUT ONCE ALREADY.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> AND VARIOUS OTHER SCRIPTS --
OH, MY GOD.
LOOK AT YOUR CEILING.
WHAT IS THAT?
>> Stephen: I FEEL LIKE I'M
INTERVIEWING A CAT.
>> THAT'S SO TRIPPY.
>> Stephen: IT IS BEAUTIFUL,
ISN'T IT.
>> DID YOU ALWAYS DO THAT?
YOU DIDN'T ON YOUR OTHER SHOW?
>> Stephen: I DIDN'T ON MY
OTHER SHOW AND WHEN WE TOOK OVER
THE THEATER AFTER MR. LETTERMAN
LEFT WE RENOVATED IT SO THE
CEILING COULD BE SEEN.
>> DO YOU NOT SEE IT MOVING?
EXCUSE ME.
THAT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT,
WAS IT?
>> Stephen: NO, IT'S NOT
MOVING AT ALL, SUSAN.
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT COULD BE THE SIGN OF
SOMETHING.
YOU SHOULD REALLY HAVE THAT
CHECKED.
>> OR JUST KEEP AT IT.
THAT'S FABULOUS.
WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT?
>> Stephen: WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT-- TALKING ABOUT THRUPPLES.
YOU WERE INJURED DURING THE
FILMING, I UNDERSTAND.
>> I DID IT ON PURPOSE TO GET
HER WALK.
>> Stephen: THAT IS SUPER
METHOD.
>> WOULD YOU BELIEVE YOU ME IF I
TOLDUE I DID JUST TELL THAT YOU.
>> Stephen, OF COURSE.
WHY WOULD SUSAN SARANDON LIE TO
ME?
>> SHE HAS A KIND OF WALK LIKE A
TRUCK CRIEFER.
SO I WAS IN A BOOT.
>> Stephen: CAN YOU SHOW ME
THE TRUCK DRIVER WALK?
>> WILL YOU DO IT, TOO.
>> Stephen: SURE, THE TRUCK
DRIVER WALK.
>> SHE'S KIND OF BIGGER IN THE
SHOULDERS.
SO SHE KIND OF, YOU KNOW,...
( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE )
( CHEERS )
( LAUGHTER )
( APPLAUSE ).
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I DID!
>> Stephen: RIGHT HERE?
"FEUD" AIRS SUNDAYS ON FX.
SUSAN SARANDON, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH JOEY
McINTYRE.
