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MARIA: WELCOME BACK.
THERE ISES A NEW ESCALATION IN
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SHOWDOWN WITH
THE FOUR PROGRESSIVE CONGRESS
WOMEN KNOWN AS THE SQUAD AS
THEIR TWITTER BATTLE CONTINUES
TO BLOW UP SOCIAL MEDIA.
OF MINNESOTA CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN
OMAR TWEETED THIS LAST NIGHT:
YOU ALL SHOULD END THIS CHARADE
AND ACCEPT THAT THIS RACIST
PRESIDENT WANTS EVERY BLACK,
BROWN PERSON DEPORTED AND
MUSLIMS BANNED.
HIS IMMIGRATION POLICIES SAY
THIS MUCH.
THE PRESIDENT TWEETED THIS
MORNING: I DON'T BELIEVE THE
FOUR CONGRESSWOMEN ARE CAPABLE
OF LOVING OUR COUNTRY.
THEY SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO AMERICA
AND ISRAEL FOR THEIR HORRIBLE,
HATEFUL THINGS THAT THEY'VE
SAID.
THEY ARE DESTROYING THE DEMOCRAT
PARTY BUT ARE WEAK AND INSECURE
PEOPLE WHO CAN NEVER DESTROY OUR
GREAT NATION.
BEN CARSON IS THE SECRETARY OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT,
AND HE JOINS ME NOW.
MR. SECRETARY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU
THIS MORNING.
>> THANK YOU.
MARIA: WHAT A FIGHT, MY GOOD
'EM.
YOU'RE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN,
SECRETARY OF HULLED, YOU WORK
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. -- HUD.
YOU WORK FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
IS HE RACIST?
>> HE IS NOT RACIST AT ALL.
THE FIRST TIME I MET HIM, IT WAS
BEFORE WE GOT INTO POLITICS DOWN
AT MAR-A-LAGO, AND HE AND I WERE
TALKING, AND SOMEONE CAME UP TO
HIM AND SAID, MR. TRUMP, ROD
STEWART IS HERE.
AND HE SAID, YEAH, BUT THIS IS
BEN CARSON.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF
PERSON HE IS.
AND YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN WE
WERE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AT
ONE OF THE DEBATES AND I
COULDN'T HEAR MY NAME ANNOUNCED,
SO I WAS STANDING THERE.
EVERYBODY ELSE GLEEFULLY WALKED
PAST ME, BUT TRUMP STOOD RIGHT
NEXT TO ME UNTIL THEY
STRAIGHTENED IT OUT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF
PERSON THAT HE IS.
YOU KNOW, HE LIVED IN NEW YORK.
JESSE JACKSON GHEI HIM AN AWARD
FOR THE -- GAVE HIM AN AWARD FOR
THE INCREDIBLE THINGS HE HAS
DONE IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING THAT
EVEN RESEMBLES RACISM.
AND LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT
HAVE BEEN DONE AND LOOK AT THE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HELPED.
YOU KNOW, BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT AT
THE LOWEST LEVEL EVER.
SAME THING FOR HISPANICS.
YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT HE HAS
ENGAGED SO MUCH IN SECOND CHANCE
FOR PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT OTHER
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT BUT HE HAS
DONE.
YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY ZONES
WHERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE NOR
MOUSE AMOUNTS OF MONEY --
ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY HAVE
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE UNREALIZED
CAPITAL GAINS AND TO PLOW THEM
INTO THE AREAS OF THE COUNTRY
THAT HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN
NEGLECTED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
IT'S NOT WHAT'S BEEN SAID OR HOW
IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED AND HASHED
OVER AND OVER IN THE MEDIA.
MARIA: BUT, SECRETARY, LOOK AT
THIS TWEET THAT ILHAN OMAR HAS
PUT OUT.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN ELECTED
CONGRESSWOMAN, AN ELECTED
POSITION THAT SAYS THAT, YOU
KNOW, THE PRESIDENT WANTS EVERY
BLACK AND BROWN PERSON DEPORTED,
EVERY MUSLIM BANNED.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE THAT AN
ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN GET AWAY
WITH SAYING THIS AS IF THIS IS
FACT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A
RADICAL ELEMENT -- I DON'T WANT
TO TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC
CONGRESSPERSON, BUT, YOU KNOW,
THERE IS A RADICAL ELEMENT THAT
HAS BEEN INTRODUCED INTO OUR
LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT SEEMS TO
BE INTENT ON PUSHING THEIR
IDEOLOGY.
AND THEY HAVE AN ACCOMPLISHED
MEDIA IN DOING SO, AND THIS IS
VERY DETRIMENTAL TO OUR COUNTRY.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE
HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE
MEDIA, AND THEY SHOULD BE HAVING
A CONVERSATION THEMSELVES ASKING
THEMSELVES WHY IS IT THAT THE
PRESS IS THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT
HAS BEEN PROTECTED BY OUR
CONSTITUTION.
AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY
WERE SUPPOSED TO DISSEMINATE
OBJECTIVELY TO PEOPLE OF AMERICA
REAL INFORMATION UPON WHICH THEY
COULD MAKE DECISIONS.
THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO TRY TO
MANIPULATE PEOPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A
RADICAL ELEMENT THIS IS TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE IDEOLOGICAL
BENT OF THE MEDIA, AND IT'S
UNFAIR TO PEOPLE.
BUT AS THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID,
THE PEOPLE COME THROUGH.
THE PEOPLE WILL BE SMART ENOUGH
TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
I HOPE THAT'S TRUE.
MARIA: YEAH.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH THAT
SENTIMENT.
THIS DYSFUNCTION IS CERTAINLY
NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE, THAT'S
FOR SURE.
SECRETARY, BEFORE YOU GO, A WORD
ON HOUSING.
WE JUST SAW HOUSING NUMBERS
WHICH SHOWED THAT HOME OWNERSHIP
IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS NOW AT
AN ALL-TIME LOW WHILE HISPANICS
ARE ACTUALLY DRIVING THE HOUSING
MARKET, INCREASING NUMBERS IN
TERMS OF HOME OWNERSHIP.
CAN YOU CHARACTERIZE WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING?
WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEAK WITH THE
CHAIRMAN AND CEO OF BANK OF
AMERICA, LARGEST MORTGAGE
ORIGINATOR.
I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR TAKE IN
TERMS OF HOUSING BEFORE WE SPEAK
WITH MR. MOYNIHAN COMING UP ON
THE PROGRAM.
>> YEAH.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, BLACK HOME
OWNERSHIP HAS DECLINED
SIGNIFICANTLY BECAUSE OF THE
HOUSING CRISIS.
PEOPLE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT HAVE A LOT
OF WHEREWITHAL IN TERMS OF
FINANCIAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT
HOUSING.
AND, YOU KNOW, BY MANIPULATING
DEBT TO INCOME RATIOS AND THE
VARIOUS TYPES OF MANIPULATIONS
FOR CREDIT THAT WERE DONE.
THEY PUT PEOPLE INTO HOUSES THAT
THEY COULDN'T AFFORD --
MARIA: I SEE.
>> -- WHICH IS NOT DOING ANYBODY
THE ANY FAVORS.
YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE, YOU LOSE
YOUR CREDIT, YOU LOSE YOUR
FUTURE OPPORTUNITY.
WE'RE STILL RECOVERING FROM
THAT.
AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE
DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET PEOPLE
BACK INTO HOUSING BECAUSE THE
AVERAGE NET WORTH OF A RENTER IS
$5,000, THE AVERAGE NET WORTH OF
A HOMEOWNER IS $200,000.
MARIA: YEAH.
>> THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A LOT OF
THE INCOME GAP THAT WE ARE
SEEING, AND WE'RE WORKING VERY
HARD TO CORRECT THAT.
MARIA: I JUST FOUND IT
INTERESTING THAT HISPANICS ARE
DOING SO WELL, AND YOU'RE SEEING
SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF
