the reason why we have dress codes is it
makes it so that all the students are on
an even footing if a kid does that like
one of the first things they do after
hurting themselves is they look to like
an authority figure for a response
you got f**king DND raped same thing
with trihex to some extent as well I
think that on college campuses I think
that you could have like safe spaces I
think that's totally cool and maybe even
really positive you can have a space
where certain people can go and not
worry about being judged or be able to
vent about things whatever but when
you're starting to have whole college
classes like labeled with trigger
warnings and that feels like a step way
too far in one direction
Jordan Peterson is whenever he talks
about politics or philosophy or history
is the cringiest fkn shit in the world
but I remember that we listen to him
talk about this concept of of
integrating your shadow I guess is what
he calls it and these are like words to
live by let's say for instance you're
too horny all the time okay oh I thought
this was interesting I don't know where
I'm at on this well my answer is always
that I'll take a data driven
answer so in some ways I feel like
adversity forges stronger character but
I don't know where the limit of that is
and I wish I could see more improvement
from people that take drastic measures
to limit the amount of painful external
stimuli they face so let me explain both
parts of these with an example
I feel like adversity builds character
to some extent that if you have to go
through some difficult things sometimes
in in order to overcome those things you
necessarily need to acquire certain life
skills or certain outlooks on life that
leave you better equipped to dealing
with adversity in the future in less
controlled environments outside of
school really is what I'm talking about
I remember one of these things was dress
codes so I went to Catholic school from
years 1 to 12 and we had very strict
dress codes the entire time I try to
figure out all this time like
what are the purposes of dress codes
like in any of our private schools
usually the answer that I got was the
reason why we have dress codes is it
makes it so that all the students are on
an even footing so that poor students
and wealthy students are treated the
same because nobody knows how wealthy or
on wealthy somebody is is we all to wear
the same clothes and I remember I always
thought even growing up we're in school
right now this is a really controlled
environment like shouldn't we be exposed
to some stuff like that now and then we
could figure it out now while we're in
school rather than ignoring all of that
and hoping that you know when we get to
college or into the workplace people
will just magically not judge people
because it seems like it would be better
to have a bunch of asshole first graders
that are judging each other over their
clothes and then learn not to do that
through school rather than just
pretending like everybody is always
going to have the same types of you know
clothing going into the world and I
never knew where the line was on that
that was the first part about that and
the second part about that is that I
need more longitudinal understandings I
don't know anybody that has ever been
like I have extreme anxiety I've extreme
this and that I need trigger wanting
everything like all of this stuff is
really traumatic for me and then like
three to four years later they're like
oh I got over my shit like I'm good now
like I don't get traumatized easily I
don't get PTSD when I don't have a
trigger warning like I'm good now like
it feels like those things don't lead to
the improvements that you'd want them to
lead to sorry so this study is abstract
trigger warnings alert trauma survivors
about potentially disturbing forthcoming
content however empirical studies on
trigger warnings suggests that they are
functionally inert or cause small
adverse side effects we conducted a
pre-registered replication and extension
of a previous experiment trauma survivor
is sample sizes 451 were randomly
assigned to either receive or not to
receive trigger warnings before reading
passages from world literature we found
no evidence that trigger warnings were
either helpful for trauma survivors for
participants who self-reported a
post-traumatic stress disorder diagnosis
or for participants who qualified for
probable PTSD even limb survivors trauma
matched the passages content we found
substantial evidence that trigger
warnings counter therapeutically
reinforced survivors of view of their
trauma as central to their identity
regarding replication hi pop
the evidence was either ambiguous or
substantially favored the hypothesis
that trigger warnings have no effect in
summary we found that trigger warnings
are not helpful for trauma service now
this is just one study on one type of
trigger warning unlike reading a book
maybe with video content maybe it would
maybe it would be different but by that
logic wouldn't make sense of the people
who require those trigger warnings are
thus worse affected by their respective
traumatic experiences unless it was
unreasonable expected they'll get over
the trauma comparison well the thing it
so here is here's something that I
learned as a parent okay and I feel like
to some extent I think that it's
probably true of normal humans as well
okay I think that we mirror I think that
to some extent I feel like we live up to
each other's expectations this is the
best example that I can think of if you
have a two-year-old kid okay and he runs
into a coffee table because he will
because kids fall over they smack
themselves they tip over they hit their
head on things they run into shit they
drop should they follow shit they just
do it right if a kid does that like one
of the first things they do after
hurting themselves is they look to like
an authority figure for a response and
anytime you have a kid that falls over
and then there's a mom or a dad nearby
and they're like oh and they run over to
the kid like the kid is always gonna be
crying for a bit every fucking time
they'll pick him up they'll Cooum
they'll not blah blah blah and then he
eventually could obey okay listen I'm
gonna cool whatever if a kid does shit
like that and he looks to you for
response and you just look at him and
you like shrug off and you like laugh at
him a little like usually they'll play
for like two seconds and then they'll
just get up and they'll run on their way
right like there it feels like they this
is really unscientific right but it
feels like they look for cues from the
parents in terms of like well how should
I respond to this event and to some
extent it almost feels like this happens
with people as well no this is
significantly more complicated it was
not always invalid there are times when
somebody can tell you hey you have been
mistreated and you're not aware of it
for instance there's a lot of
emotionally abusive relationship so
people don't realize how mistreated they
are it snows gonna be good people to be
to bring awareness about that but other
times I wonder if people are having
trauma forced upon them because people
expect him to react a certain way so
ultra nuclear hot take now the feeling
that I had and this is without knowing
all the parties involved so I could be
talking shit and maybe totally wrong but
I got that feeling a lot with the lady
in the D&D campaign with the orgasm
robot where it felt to me like she went
through the campaign she was a little
uncomfortable she probably could have
talked to him afterwards Mike I don't
really like this this is kind of
whatever I don't like that and I'm like
okay yeah you're right and then we don't
do it but because she had a public
backlash that was telling her how she
was supposed to feel about it it felt
like her reaction became far stronger
and she started to mirror the reactions
of what everybody in the public was
saying this is what you need to feel
like you were fucking violated you got
fucking dandy raped you got sexually
assaulted or destroyed this is basically
rape of a player character that's like
and I wonder how much that played into
her like more public response after the
show and after all of the after all the
public feedback happened
same thing with trihex to some extent as
well where me and trihex knew each
other's like relationships on like foul
language or edgy words and weird
whatever it seemed like we more or less
had that but then one strike started to
get public feedback on how he should
have felt he started to process it a lot
differently I wonder sometimes because
it feels like we mirror our reactions
sometimes our entire personalities off
of the people around us if sometimes by
treating something as a problem you make
it a problem that sometimes when you
treat something as something special it
makes it special and it makes it even
worse for the person involved another
really great example that I can think of
that seems so counterproductive is a
contra points and she talked about this
on Twitter and gotten massive fucking
backlash for this the only time the time
when contra points feels the most trans
is when she goes to accepting groups of
trans people because she sits down
everybody goes around and they give
their pronouns and blah blah blah it's
like okay well I know you guys are doing
this for me because I'm trans like okay
whereas if she just goes into like a
super fucking alt-right Nazi KKK bar
like someplace
Texas Tennessee in walks in look it's
gonna say her there's a what's up like
there she is or look at this girl or
whatever that's it
and and it actually it becomes the
people that are so intent on making
something issue that becomes an issue I
wonder sometimes how much damage this
plays into things now that's not to say
that to be cleared so I just have it so
I could be wrong on any of those
examples there might be more in the
background that I'm missing and there
are times when it's good to make people
aware of you know abuse the suffering
that they might not realize so for
instance a lot of people in dear a lot
of very crazy relationship emotional
abuse without realizing hey maybe this
isn't okay but yeah I mean sometimes I
wonder sometimes I wonder what's too
much so you're saying that perhaps
trigger warnings amplify the trigger
they may encounter possibly yeah super
anecdotal when I'm around certain people
that are super accommodating of my
anxiety it is way worse than if I was
just forced to deal with it on my own
feels like my brain has learned that
around these people it's okay to be
anxious and gets worse yeah maybe I
don't know then also I don't know like
everybody's different I
I love I so personally I like
challenging environments where people
are challenging me that's part of why I
got into like internet debate like the
idea of stepping into a room with 500
people calling me words and saying I'm a
pedophile and shit is I like that
feeling I like the the confrontational
aspect of that but not everybody does
for some people that's like a really
dehumanizing experience like or some
other type of experience it's not it's
not good for a lot of people I
understand it as well so it's always
really hard to balance out like well
what are my personal preferences that
don't really align with most people's
versus what are some things that maybe
we should all take into account and I'm
not sure I think you're right about
enablers exist but it's definitely true
that sometimes you need people to
validate those feelings you're in denial
yeah for sure there's there's a line
somewhere yeah but I firmly believe and
I've said this in the past I'm pretty
sure I think it's ridiculous
Inc I think that I feel like in general
I feel like schools aren't challenging
enough to your growth as a person in the
ideal world a school isn't a place where
you just learn things
school is also a place we develop into a
functional human being and when people
were talking about just won a debate
against my little sister are you proud
of me laughing face I'm very proud of
you nice job when people were talking
about putting trigger warnings on like
world literature classes I had I don't
know that feels like really unhealthy to
me that starts to feel like a little
ridiculous I think that on college
campuses I think that you could have
like safe spaces I think that's totally
cool
and maybe even really positive you can
have a space where certain people can go
and not worry about being judged or be
able to vent about things whatever but
when you're starting to have whole
college classes like labeled with
trigger warnings and that feels like a
step way too far in one direction like
so what somebody with you know somebody
that you know was sexually assaulted is
just to avoid every single class that
has anything to do with like you know
rape but in the history of the world
like that's yeah I don't know I think
well you might be wrong as teaching
topics as students would have had a
little exposure to growing while growing
up for example you know what young guy
does anybody know what younger it is no
not Sood night I think he's like I'm in
prison stuff like that just isn't taught
in American public schools really makes
you think nice like to some extent I
feel like people feel like people
forgive this a little bit but to some
extent like school is a good place to
fail or even when you're young it's a
good place to fail because you're you're
okay like if you fuck up as a
fourteen-year-old very rarely you know
unless you're black and confronted by
the police very rarely your life over
right when you're 14 15 if you fuck up
or people make you uncomfortable like
these are the times to process these
feelings because you can't do it in the
workplace right you'll get fucking fired
or nobody's gonna put up your shit there
but like school is the time to like deal
with these types of things and learn how
to process these things yeah people that
talk about like banning Huckleberry Finn
and To Kill a Mockingbird uh-huh
are there any popular young adult books
where characters build strength through
avoiding adversity it feels like it's
always through adversity yeah that seems
to be the yeah that seems to be the case
right like every book you read is
generally the main character this seems
like what auntie Esther Debbie said one
safe place to trigger running is just we
can pop it like so many years ago
this is like a life thing okay one thing
that's incredibly important is whenever
somebody presents you with the topic
what you need to be able to do is you
need to be able to go through that topic
point by point and you need to be able
to extract some good or beneficial
things out of it and then reject some
bad or or detrimental things from it
people wholesale accept or reject things
because of group mentality is because
something they should be against or
shouldn't be against I think it's a
really really bad tendency that people
have so for instance like I said I think
the ideas behind trigger warnings is
those guys are valuable I just don't
know how they're it's implemented all
the time but as soon as you let yourself
be defined by the antithesis of whatever
you are against you know says like oh
well therefore that I'm anti that
therefore that I'm anti that therefore
that I'm anti that you're kind of like
thrown all of your like critical
thinking out the window I've been more
inclined to agree of public school
wasn't so complete trash and public
school teachers didn't suck ass a lot of
private school teachers were fairly shit
as well teachers are some of the worst
people in America and some of the best
people in America but they're always the
most important people in America that
that sucks but it's true the Galleon
dialect is basically this canalla geing
truth from some from other people that
may seem wrong but they're expressing a
thought and therefore that there must be
some truth in it somewhere worth
discovering
sure Jordan Peterson is whenever he
talks about politics or philosophy or
history is the craziest fucking shit in
the world but I remember that we
listened to him talk about this concept
of of integrating your shadow I guess is
what he calls it
and these are like words to live by I
don't want to listen this whole thing
because I'm gonna know this is 100%
correct
but basically like there comes a time
when you were sometimes you're
confronted with something in your life
and you realize that you might have
there might be some bad characteristic
of yourself let's say for instance your
two Hornung all the time okay you you
let girls or guys were in your life you
are constantly fucking yourself over in
the pursuit sexual relationships and
you're fucking yourself over
that sometimes what happens is is people
say I'm going to make a change I am NOT
going to be a horny boy anymore and what
you do is you turn your back on all of
it and you say I'm gonna abstain from
sex
fuck that shit and that's your point of
it that's how you go to improve right
that's one way you can do it and
sometimes you can't even improve in that
manner but a way better thing you could
do is you could say okay there are
issues that I have being a warning boy
however there are pros and there are
cons if we were really intelligent what
we could do is we could take some of the
pros from this try to separate those out
from the cons and we can walk away with
a better understanding of ourselves and
what our behavior ought to be based on a
negative like experience we had in the
past and it seems like that's a very
challenging thing to do for most people
that it's easier to just say I'm gonna
completely reject or neglect that part
of my personality or that thing that I
do rather than trying to figure out a
more nuanced view of that particular
thing I think Oh a really good example
of this would be no FAP if masturbation
is taking over your life and it's
drawing it life probably not good but no
FAP is an extreme reaction to that
