JUDY WOODRUFF: But first: A master scientist,
scientist and inventor Leonardo da Vinci,
defined a renaissance man.
He is now the subject of a new biography by
Walter Isaacson, whom I recently caught up
with for the latest edition of the "NewsHour"
Bookshelf.
There's an expression there.
She's pensive, I guess you would say.
WALTER ISAACSON, Author, "Leonardo da Vinci":
And you feel the inner emotion, just like
you do in the Mona Lisa.
Leonardo was always trying to say, hey, there's
a mysterious inner emotion here.
Think about what it is.
JUDY WOODRUFF: As with his art, there's still
mystery around Leonardo da Vinci the man.
To discuss the Renaissance era genius, I met
up with Walter Isaacson at the National Gallery
of art in Washington, where the only Leonardo
painting in the Americas hangs.
It's a portrait of Ginevra de Benci, a 15th
century Florentine aristocrat.
WALTER ISAACSON: If you contrast this with
the Mona Lisa, you can see what an entire
career of studying math and science and art,
how it deepened what he does.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Isaacson has profiled geniuses
from Benjamin Franklin and Albert Einstein
to mathematician Ada Lovelace and Steve Jobs.
Leonardo lived half-a-millennium ago.
Why him?
WALTER ISAACSON: I have always been interested
in people who could connect art to science.
It's imaginative to people who count.
And that is what Leonardo was.
He was somebody who loved both art and science.
And by standing at that intersection, I said,
oh, this is how imagination works.
I was totally blown away by certain things
of Leonardo, first of all, the role of theatrics
and pageant.
Secondly, the depth of his curiosity about
science.
It's that notion that we can embrace the beauty
of every pattern in nature.
That's what we need to relearn today.
JUDY WOODRUFF: How did he stand at that intersection?
Because, as you say, there are a lot of people
who are really good at science, people really
good at the arts.
What was it about the way he connected the
two?
WALTER ISAACSON: He wanted to know everything
there was to know about everything that could
be known, including how we fit into the world,
and he didn't make much of a distinction between
art and science.
He's somebody who did, you know, the flight
of birds.
He did engineering.
He did anatomy.
But he also did wonderful drawings and art,
and so, to me, that's the exciting part.
JUDY WOODRUFF: You have got some fascinating
material in here about the fact that not just
that he was a vegetarian.
He was born out of wedlock.
What made him who he was?
WALTER ISAACSON: Well, he was very lucky to
be born out of wedlock, because he had to
be self-taught.
And so instead of taking received wisdom,
he questioned received wisdom.
Also, I have written about really smart people
like Einstein.
Leonardo da Vinci wasn't smart in the conventional
processing power of the mind, the way doing
math that you and I will never figure out.
He was a genius and brilliant because he was
so curious.
He just made a list every day of things he
wanted to learn.
And so we can relate to him in ways that it's
hard to relate to other geniuses.
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Walter, the book is filled
with amazing pictures, photographs of paintings
and of his work.
The back cover is Vitruvian Man, which you
write about at length.
What was he trying to do here?
WALTER ISAACSON: This is the ultimate expression
of the connection of how we fit into the world.
There is this guy spread-eagle in the square
of the world, in the circle of the cosmos,
and it's a self-portrait of Leonardo.
It is a picture of unnecessary beauty, with
the curly hair he had in his 30s, when he
was doing it.
And what he was trying to do with two other
friends was sort of show how this ancient
Roman named Vitruvius talked about the proportions
of the human should be reflected in the proportions
of the church.
But then it gets larger.
It's a work of great science on the proportions
of man, but it's also a work of great art
because of its beauty.
And it's spiritual, because it's man and how
man fits into the cosmos.
JUDY WOODRUFF: The most famous Leonardo creation,
the Mona Lisa, he didn't people when people
thought he would finish it.
What was he thinking?
What was he seeing as he worked on that?
WALTER ISAACSON: He worked on it for about
the last 14 years of his life.
And you see everything come together, from
his belief in the curving of rivers into the
blood of humans and how we fit into the world,
but also just take that smile, the most famous
smile ever.
He had just finished dissecting the human
face, showing every muscle and every nerve.
And on those pages of anatomy drawings, he
starts drawing smiles.
And you see the Mona Lisa's smile start to
form.
And also he knows that when light hits the
center of your retina, you see the detail,
but when it hits a little edge of your retina,
you see the shadows and color, because he
had dissected the human eye.
And so when you look directly at the Mona
Lisa's lips, it's turning down a bit.
She's not really smiling.
But if you look at her chin or her cheekbone
and your eyes wander, the shadows make the
smile turn on.
So, it's a smile that is elusive.
And so it combines everything, the spirit
of Leonardo, the science, the anatomy, and,
of course, it's the greatest piece of art
ever painted.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Way ahead of his time.
WALTER ISAACSON: Absolutely, because Renaissance
art had not yet done that, sort of shown narrative
emotion.
You know, having been somebody who produced
plays and pageants, he loved fantasy.
And one of the great things about his art
is that he blurs the line sometimes, so that
things leave a little to our imagination.
Look at The Last Supper.
It's a beautiful piece of perspective and
observation, but it's also theatrical.
JUDY WOODRUFF: He had a really interesting
ability to, on the one hand, dig deep, ask
questions, not be satisfied with the answer,
the obvious answer, but also the human frailty
of not finishing projects.
WALTER ISAACSON: You know, I thought at first
that was one of his failings, that he would
start Adoration of the Magi or St. Jerome
and not finish it.
But then I realized that he spent his whole
life perfecting things.
He would do St. Jerome in the Wilderness,
a great piece of art that he didn't finish,
because then he would be doing anatomy 20
years later, and he would change the neck
muscles based on his dissection.
JUDY WOODRUFF: At the end of the book, you
have a list of lessons that Leonardo would
pass on to all of us.
And I was struck.
Let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
WALTER ISAACSON: There were paintings Leonardo
didn't finish, and part of it was he couldn't
get it perfect.
Once in a while, we should be like Leonardo
and just say, I'm going to make this perfect
and I'm not stop until it is perfect.
I went through all of the 7,000 pages of his
notebooks, and what struck me the most was
the list of things he was curious about.
He just was curious about everything, like
why a duck's foot, you know, expands and contracts
when it swims.
Why does a fish swim faster in water than
a bird flies, when water is heavier?
And then one of my favorites is, describe
the tongue of a woodpecker.
Now, who wakes up one morning and says, I
want to know what the tongue of a woodpecker
looks like?
JUDY WOODRUFF: Could there be a Leonardo today?
Is there a climate now fertile for a mind
like his?
WALTER ISAACSON: I do think it's a great time
to be another Leonardo.
Anything you want to know, you can find a
way to find out because of the Internet and
ways to search for it.
The problem today is we sometimes silo information.
We do that in our universities, we do that
in ourselves.
And the thing about Leonardo is, whatever
was beautiful, whatever was interesting, he
wanted to know.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Walter Isaacson, the book is
"Leonardo da Vinci."
Thank you very much.
WALTER ISAACSON: Great.
