Me and my wife met in a disco.
Had we heard of the word design?
It's one of those words that you might have not even
known from our background.
Gradually we must have realised
that actually we had a design brain
and that was developed from
all the things that you should do when you're young.
We were both out clubbing from the age of 13.
We started off not calling ourselves designers,
then I suppose we had to call ourselves
fashion designers 'cause
we had one of,
one of the world's most famous fashion companies
in Red or Dead.
And after we sold that, we wanted to follow
the way we had been brought up with an egalitarian
view on the world.
And then eventually do events like this where you're
doing things that have got social benefit.
Coming from a town, a reasonable sized town
like Blackburn, there was only one fashion shop
for men.
And the rest we had to do ourselves
or wear second-hand or go to army circular stores.
My mum and my nan always made clothes,
so there was always a sewing machine
going in the house and
they encouraged me, they never stood in the way
of me going out or dressing differently or
kinda cutting my own hair and all that kinda stuff.
I was, I was 13 when I started to collect records.
I was 13 when I started to be totally independent
and be able to, you know, make my own outfits
with a bit of help from my mum and
learned how to use a sewing machine rudimentary.
You were doing it to be different,
so you were, you were different but it didn't,
it didn't, you weren't thought of as a weirdo or anything.
You were just somebody who did
things a little bit differently.
I think men now can, have got much more choice
and I think you're allowed to express yourself
a little bit more.
But in a way people are expressing themselves less.
I think we're going through a period of sportswear and,
you know, sportswear can be pretty boring.
But in the clubs today there's,
there's people doing interesting things.
My generation doesn't own cool.
