CONVERSATION BY ASKING THE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT TO REACT
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT TO REACT
TO THAT BIG COMEBACK IN THE
TO THAT BIG COMEBACK IN THE
RACE.
RACE.
>> IF SOMEONE HAD TOLD YOU EVEN
>> IF SOMEONE HAD TOLD YOU EVEN
A WEEK AGO THAT YOU WOULD DO SO
A WEEK AGO THAT YOU WOULD DO SO
WELL ON SUPER TUESDAY, THAT YOU
WELL ON SUPER TUESDAY, THAT YOU
WOULD BE OUTRIGHT WINNING STATES
WOULD BE OUTRIGHT WINNING STATES
YOU NEVER EVEN SET FOOT IN, BE
YOU NEVER EVEN SET FOOT IN, BE
HONEST, WOULD YOU HAVE BELIEVED
HONEST, WOULD YOU HAVE BELIEVED
THEM?
THEM?
>> YES, WE BELIEVE WE WOULD.
I WAS CERTAIN WED WIN VIRGINIA,
I WAS CERTAIN WED WIN VIRGINIA,
NORTH CAROLINA, ALABAMA, CERTAIN
NORTH CAROLINA, ALABAMA, CERTAIN
WED WIN OTHER STATES.
WED WIN OTHER STATES.
AS BIG AS IT WAS, I WAS
AS BIG AS IT WAS, I WAS
SURPRISED ABOUT MASSACHUSETTS.
SURPRISED ABOUT MASSACHUSETTS.
I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT MINNESOTA.
I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT MINNESOTA.
AND I WAS HOPEFUL ABOUT TEXAS.
AND I WAS HOPEFUL ABOUT TEXAS.
>> LETS TALK ABOUT MR. SANDERS.
>> LETS TALK ABOUT MR. SANDERS.
HES BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOUR
HES BEEN TALKING ABOUT YOUR
VICTORY.
VICTORY.
HE SAID JOE IS RUNNING A
HE SAID JOE IS RUNNING A
CAMPAIGN WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY
CAMPAIGN WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY
HEAVILY SUPPORTED BY THE
HEAVILY SUPPORTED BY THE
CORPORATE ESTABLISHMENT.
CORPORATE ESTABLISHMENT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT
ARGUMENT?
ARGUMENT?
>> ITS RIDICULOUS.
>> ITS RIDICULOUS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
ITS RIDICULOUS.
BERNIE, YOU GOT BEATEN BY
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT I HAVE IN
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT I HAVE IN
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY,
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY,
BERNIE.
BERNIE.
YOU GOT BEATEN BECAUSE OF SUBURB
WOMEN, BERNIE. BECAUSE OF SUBURB
WOMEN, BERNIE.
YOU GOT BEATEN BECAUSE OF MIDDLE
YOU GOT BEATEN BECAUSE OF MIDDLE
CLASS HARD WORKING FOLKS OUT
CLASS HARD WORKING FOLKS OUT
THERE, BERNIE.
THERE, BERNIE.
YOUVE RAISED A LOT MORE MONEY
YOUVE RAISED A LOT MORE MONEY
THAN I HAVE BERNIE.
THAN I HAVE BERNIE.
>> THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
>> THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
WATCHING CLOSELY AND HES BEEN
WATCHING CLOSELY AND HES BEEN
WEIGHING IN ON BEHALF OF BERNIE
WEIGHING IN ON BEHALF OF BERNIE
SANDERS.
SANDERS.
HE SAYS THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED
AGAINST SANDERS THAT THEGGED
AGAINST SANDERS THAT THE
DEMOCRATS ARE, QUOTE, STAGING A
DEMOCRATS ARE, QUOTE, STAGING A
COUP AGAINST HIM.
COUP AGAINST HIM.
>> I WONDER WHY HES SAYING
>> I WONDER WHY HES SAYING
THAT.
THAT.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK SO?
>> WHY DO YOU THINK SO?
DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS
DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS
ROOTING FOR SANDERS?
ROOTING FOR SANDERS?
>> I THINK THE ONE THING THE
>> I THINK THE ONE THING THE
PRESIDENT DOESNT WANT TO DO
PRESIDENT DOESNT WANT TO DO
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS FACE
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IS FACE
ME BECAUSE I WILL BEAT HIM,
ME BECAUSE I WILL BEAT HIM,
PERIOD.
PERIOD.
PERIOD.
PERIOD.
HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS
HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS
POWER -- HES EVEN RISKED HIS
POWER -- HES EVEN RISKED HIS
PRESIDENCY BECAUSE HE DOESNT
PRESIDENCY BECAUSE HE DOESNT
WANT TO FACE ME.
WANT TO FACE ME.
ITS SIMPLE.
ITS SIMPLE.
A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
HAVE YOU EVER, EVER SEEN A
HAVE YOU EVER, EVER SEEN A
SITTING PRESIDENT GET SO
SITTING PRESIDENT GET SO
INVOLVED IN A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
INVOLVED IN A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
AND FOCUS SO MUCH ATTENTION ON
AND FOCUS SO MUCH ATTENTION ON
NOT WANTING A SINGLE PERSON, ME,
NOT WANTING A SINGLE PERSON, ME,
TO BECOME THE NOMINEE?
TO BECOME THE NOMINEE?
THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT WANT ME
THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT WANT ME
TO BE THE NOMINEE.
TO BE THE NOMINEE.
>> YOU MENTIONED THE PRESIDENT
>> YOU MENTIONED THE PRESIDENT
HAS GONE AFTER YOU.
HAS GONE AFTER YOU.
WE KNOW HES OBVIOUSLY HOPING
WE KNOW HES OBVIOUSLY HOPING
THAT THERES MORE INVESTIGATION
THAT THERES MORE INVESTIGATION
OF YOUR SON OF BUREISMA, THE
OF YOUR SON OF BUREISMA, THE
ENERGY COMPANY THAT HES ON THE
ENERGY COMPANY THAT HES ON THE
BOARD OF.
BOARD OF.
DO YOU THINK AS IT RISES, HES
COMING AFTER YOU?T RISES, HES
COMING AFTER YOU?
>> OF COURSE.
>> OF COURSE.
THERES NO THERE THERE.
THERES NO THERE THERE.
DONALD TRUMP HAS PUMMELED THE
DONALD TRUMP HAS PUMMELED THE
MIDDLE CLASS, HAS EMBRACED
MIDDLE CLASS, HAS EMBRACED
DICTATORS AND POKED HIS THUMB IN
DICTATORS AND POKED HIS THUMB IN
THE EYE OF OUR ALLIES.
THE EYE OF OUR ALLIES.
DONALD TRUMP IS A DISASTER.
DONALD TRUMP IS A DISASTER.
HE KNOWS IT.
HE KNOWS IT.
HE KNOWS IM GOING TO BE ABLE TO
POINT HIM OUT.ING TO BE ABLE TO
POINT HIM OUT.
I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO DEBATE HIM.
I CAN HARDLY WAIT TO DEBATE HIM.
>> FIRST YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH
>> FIRST YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH
THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
BERNIE SANDERS RELEASED AN AD
BERNIE SANDERS RELEASED AN AD
TODAY.
TODAY.
I THINK YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THE
I THINK YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THE
VOICE YOURE ABOUT TO HEAR.
VOICE YOURE ABOUT TO HEAR.
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE READY FOR
A CALL TO ACTION. ARE READY FOR
A CALL TO ACTION.
THEY WANT HONEST LEADERSHIP WHO
THEY WANT HONEST LEADERSHIP WHO
CARES ABOUT THEM.
CARES ABOUT THEM.
THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING
THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING
TO FIND FOR THEM AND THEY WILL
TO FIND FOR THEM AND THEY WILL
FIND IT IN BERNIE.
FIND IT IN BERNIE.
THATS RIGHT, FEEL THE BURN.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NOT.
>> PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NOT
ENDORSED ANYONE IN THE
ENDORSED ANYONE IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
DO YOU THINK THE AD IS
DO YOU THINK THE AD IS
MISLEADING?
MISLEADING?
>> ITS NOT AT ALL SURPRISING.
>> ITS NOT AT ALL SURPRISING.
EVERYONE IS EMBRACING BARACK.
EVERYONE IS EMBRACING BARACK.
HE WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT, A
WONDERFUL GUY. PRESIDENT, A
WONDERFUL GUY.
HE SAID A LOT OF NICE THINGS.
HE SAID A LOT OF NICE THINGS.
THE IDEA THAT BERNIE SANDERS WAS
THE IDEA THAT BERNIE SANDERS WAS
A GREAT SUPPORTER OF THE
A GREAT SUPPORTER OF THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND SHARES HIS VIEWS, I MEAN
AND SHARES HIS VIEWS, I MEAN
COME ON.
COME ON.
ANYWAY, IT DOESNT MATTER.
ANYWAY, IT DOESNT MATTER.
IT DOESNT MATTER MUCH.
IT DOESNT MATTER MUCH.
>> IS IT TIME FOR PRESIDENT
>> IS IT TIME FOR PRESIDENT
OBAMA TO GET OFF THE SIDELINE
OBAMA TO GET OFF THE SIDELINE
AND MAKE AN ENDORSEMENT AND PUT
AND MAKE AN ENDORSEMENT AND PUT
HIS FINGER ON THE SCALE?
HIS FINGER ON THE SCALE?
>> NO.
>> NO.
I DONT THINK SO.
I DONT THINK SO.
IMAGINE HAVING ENDORSED ME AND
IMAGINE HAVING ENDORSED ME AND
WE WON AS BIG AS WE DID
WE WON AS BIG AS WE DID
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY.
YOUD ALL BE SAYING I WON
YOUD ALL BE SAYING I WON
BECAUSE OF BARACK.
BECAUSE OF BARACK.
IM WINNING BECAUSE OF ME.
IM GOING TO EARN THIS ON MY
IM GOING TO EARN THIS ON MY
OWN.
OWN.
>> LETS TALK ABOUT MICHAEL
BLOOMBERG.LK ABOUT MICHAEL
BLOOMBERG.
HE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE.
HE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE.
HES SUPPORTING YOU NOW.
WHAT KIND OF HELP WILL HE GIVE
WHAT KIND OF HELP WILL HE GIVE
TO YOUR CAMPAIGN?
TO YOUR CAMPAIGN?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?
WHAT DO YOU HOPE?
WHAT DO YOU HOPE?
>> HE TALKED ABOUT MY CHARACTER,
>> HE TALKED ABOUT MY CHARACTER,
WHY HE SUPPORTED ME AND TALKED
WHY HE SUPPORTED ME AND TALKED
ABOUT WHY HED BE ENTHUSIASTIC
ABOUT WHY HED BE ENTHUSIASTIC
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT.
THAT ALL BY ITSELF IS A GIANT
THAT ALL BY ITSELF IS A GIANT
HELP.
HELP.
>> SENATOR SANDERS HAS BEEN
HITTING YOU HARD ON SOME OF YOUR
HITTING YOU HARD ON SOME OF YOUR
PAST DECISIONS, SOME OF YOUR
PAST DECISIONS, SOME OF YOUR
RECORD IN PARTICULAR.
RECORD IN PARTICULAR.
HES TALKING ABOUT YOUR VOTE IN
HES TALKING ABOUT YOUR VOTE IN
FAVOR OF THE IRAQ WAR.
FAVOR OF THE IRAQ WAR.
HE ALSO SAID YOU VOTED FOR TRADE
HE ALSO SAID YOU VOTED FOR TRADE
AGREEMENTS THAT WILL MAKE IT
AGREEMENTS THAT WILL MAKE IT
DIFFICULT FOR YOU IN SOME OF THE
DIFFICULT FOR YOU IN SOME OF THE
RUST BELT STATES THAT WILL BE
RUST BELT STATES THAT WILL BE
VOTING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
VOTING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
DOES HE HAVE A POINT ABOUT
DOES HE HAVE A POINT ABOUT
ASPECTS OF YOUR RECORD COMING
ASPECTS OF YOUR RECORD COMING
BACK TO HAUNT YOU?
BACK TO HAUNT YOU?
>> NO.
>> NO.
MY RECORD HAS BEEN SO THOROUGHLY
MY RECORD HAS BEEN SO THOROUGHLY
INVESTIGATED.
INVESTIGATED.
YOU GUYS RIGHTLY LOOKED AT IT,
YOU GUYS RIGHTLY LOOKED AT IT,
EVERY VOTE IVE EVER TAKEN.
EVERY VOTE IVE EVER TAKEN.
NOW LETS GO TO MICHIGAN,
BERNIE, AND SEE IF THATS TRUE.
BERNIE, AND SEE IF THATS TRUE.
IM THE GUY THAT HELPED BAIL OUT
IM THE GUY THAT HELPED BAIL OUT
THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.
THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.
WHAT DID YOU DO, OLD BUDDY?
WHAT DID YOU DO, OLD BUDDY?
COME ON.
COME ON.
THIS IDEA THAT MY RECORD IS A
THIS IDEA THAT MY RECORD IS A
PROBLEM -- THIS IS A GUY THAT
PROBLEM -- THIS IS A GUY THAT
VOTED AGAINST THE BRADY BILL
VOTED AGAINST THE BRADY BILL
FIVE TIMES FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS
FIVE TIMES FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS
ON PEOPLE.
ON PEOPLE.
I WELCOME THE COMPETITION,
I WELCOME THE COMPETITION,
BERNIE.
BERNIE.
LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR VOTES.
LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR VOTES.
LETS TALK ABOUT MY VOTES.
LETS TALK ABOUT MY VOTES.
LETS SEE WHAT THE AMERICAN
LETS SEE WHAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE SAY.
PEOPLE SAY.
>> THERE WAS A SCARY MOMENT ON
>> THERE WAS A SCARY MOMENT ON
STAGE THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN A
STAGE THE OTHER NIGHT WHEN A
PROTESTER RUSHED THE STAGE AND
YOUR WIFE, DR. JILL BIDEN ANDD
YOUR WIFE, DR. JILL BIDEN AND
ONE OF YOUR SENIOR ADVISERS,
ONE OF YOUR SENIOR ADVISERS,
SYMONE SANDERS, RUSHED TO THE
SYMONE SANDERS, RUSHED TO THE
RESCUE.
RESCUE.
THEY MADE FOR GOOD SECURITY.
BUT DOES THAT RAISE IN YOUR MIND
BUT DOES THAT RAISE IN YOUR MIND
THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU
THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU
SHOULD HAVE U.S. SECRET SERVICE
SHOULD HAVE U.S. SECRET SERVICE
PROTECTION AND WHETHER THE OTHER
PROTECTION AND WHETHER THE OTHER
CANDIDATES IN THE RACE SHOULD?
CANDIDATES IN THE RACE SHOULD?
>> I THINK THATS SOMETHING THAT
>> I THINK THATS SOMETHING THAT
HAS TO BE CONSIDERED THE MORE
HAS TO BE CONSIDERED THE MORE
OUTRAGEOUS SOME OF THIS BECOMES.
OUTRAGEOUS SOME OF THIS BECOMES.
>> WAS THAT SCARY?
>> WAS THAT SCARY?
>> I TELL YOU, MY WIFE IS
>> I TELL YOU, MY WIFE IS
SOMETHING ELSE, ISNT SHE?
SOMETHING ELSE, ISNT SHE?
>> YES.
>> YES.
SHE HAD YOUR BACK FOR SURE.
SHE HAD YOUR BACK FOR SURE.
>> I WASNT WORRIED FOR ME.
>> I WASNT WORRIED FOR ME.
I WAS WORRIED FOR JILL.
I WAS WORRIED FOR JILL.
SHES INCREDIBLE.
SHES INCREDIBLE.
SHE DID THE SAME THING IN
SHE DID THE SAME THING IN
ANOTHER EVENT IN NCH WHERE A GUY
ANOTHER EVENT IN NCH WHERE A GUY
I DIDNT SEE COMING BEHIND ME,
I DIDNT SEE COMING BEHIND ME,
SHE RUNS UP AND GRABS HIM.
SHE RUNS UP AND GRABS HIM.
IS SHE AND MY DAUGHTER HAVE MORE
IS SHE AND MY DAUGHTER HAVE MORE
COURAGE THAN I THINK -- ANYWAY,
COURAGE THAN I THINK -- ANYWAY,
THATS WHAT I WORRY ABOUT.
THATS WHAT I WORRY ABOUT.
I WORRY ABOUT JILL.
I WORRY ABOUT JILL.
>> DOES IT FEEL LIKE THAT KIND
>> DOES IT FEEL LIKE THAT KIND
OF PROTECTION IS NECESSARY?
OF PROTECTION IS NECESSARY?
>> WELL, I THINK ITS BECOMING
>> WELL, I THINK ITS BECOMING
INCREASINGLY SO.
INCREASINGLY SO.
I DONT LIKE TO PULL THE TRUMP
I DONT LIKE TO PULL THE TRUMP
ROUTINE OF THE SOMEONE STANDS UP
ROUTINE OF THE SOMEONE STANDS UP
IN PROTEST, THROW THEM OUT, KICK
IN PROTEST, THROW THEM OUT, KICK
THE BUM OUT.
THE BUM OUT.
I DONT DO THAT.
I DONT DO THAT.
I DO THINK THE IDEA OF JUMPING
I DO THINK THE IDEA OF JUMPING
ON A STAGE IS JUST NOT
ON A STAGE IS JUST NOT
PERMISSIBLE.
PERMISSIBLE.
THE LAST THING WE NEED IS
ANYBODY HURT.G WE NEED IS
ANYBODY HURT.
>> DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT YOU CAN
>> DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT YOU CAN
SEW UP THIS NOMINATION BEFORE
SEW UP THIS NOMINATION BEFORE
THE CONVENTION OR DO YOU THINK
THE CONVENTION OR DO YOU THINK
THIS IS AA BATTLE THAT WILL GO
THIS IS AA BATTLE THAT WILL GO
ALL THE WAY TO MILWAUKEE.
ALL THE WAY TO MILWAUKEE.
>> WELL GO FROM THE DAKOTAS TO
>> WELL GO FROM THE DAKOTAS TO
MICHIGAN, PLACES I THINK I CAN
MICHIGAN, PLACES I THINK I CAN
DO WELL.
DO WELL.
IF I DO THAT, IT PILES UP MORE
IF I DO THAT, IT PILES UP MORE
SUPPORT, MORE MOMENTUM.
SUPPORT, MORE MOMENTUM.
THATS MY HOPE, MY EXPECTATION.
THATS MY HOPE, MY EXPECTATION.
IM NOT LOOKING ALL THE WAY DOWN
IM NOT LOOKING ALL THE WAY DOWN
THE ROAD TO THE CONVENTION.
