>> BERNIE SANDERS'S NEW AD,
"AMERICA," HAS BEEN MET WITH
LARGELY POSITIVE IMPRESSIONS,
PEOPLE SEEM TO LIKE IT.
THERE IS
NOT A LOT TO IT, OTHER THAN
IMAGES OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT
AMERICA MEETING UP WITH BERNIE
SANDERS, BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS
LOVING IT.
IN PARTICULAR, A
COUPLE OF HILLARY CLINTON
CAMPAIGN SURROGATES ARE SAYING
THAT IT PROVES ONCE AND FOR ALL
THAT BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER
TO BERNIE SANDERS.
WE WILL PLAY
THE AD IN ITS ENTIRETY, YOU TAKE
A LOOK AND SEE IF YOU AGREE.
>>[SIMON AND GARFUNKEL'S
"AMERICA" SONG PLAYING]
>> I'M BERNIE SANDERS, AND I
APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.
>> I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES, I AM
A BERNIE SUPPORTER, SO I WILL
TRY TO NOT BE OVERLY AFFECTED BY
MY NORMAL BIAS.
WE HAVE WATCHED
THE AD -- WATCHING THE AD, DO WE
COME TO THE CONCLUSION
INDIVIDUALLY THAT THIS SHOWS A
FALSE IMAGE OF AMERICA, AND
PERHAPS INDICATES THAT WHILE HE
MIGHT BE LIBERAL AND EVERYTHING,
HE PERHAPS DOESN'T PRIORITIZE
SHOWING DIVERSITY IN HIS ADS?
>> I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF EVER
THERE WAS A WHITE SUPREMACIST AD
-- I HALFWAY EXPECTED TO SEE
TRUMP AT THE END.
NO, THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
>>WITH BERNIE PUTTING A BRICK ON
THE WALL?
>>THAT'S RIDICULOUS, AND
PARTICULARLY FOR BERNIE SANDERS.
I THINK BERNIE SANDERS HAS A
PRETTY EXTENSIVE HISTORY
ABOUT BEING IN SUPPORT OF --
>>HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE CIVIL
RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
>>HE WAS ARRESTED IN 1962
PROTESTING SEGREGATION, HE DID
THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.
>>HE DIDN'T THINK THEY WENT FAR
ENOUGH WITH SEGREGATION?
>>YES BASICALLY, HE WANTED
IT A LITTLE BIT WORSE.
HE DIDN'T GET HIS WAY.
THAT IS
WHAT HAPPENS TO HIS HAIR.
>>YOU ALWAYS SEE PICUTRES OF
THE WHITE WATER FOUNTAIN
AND THE BLACK WATER FOUNTAIN,
BUT THEY ARE, LIKE, RIGHT
NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
BUFFER.
>>WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
>>YOU DON'T THINK THAT AD -- YOU
DON'T AGREE WITH DAVID BROCK?
>>IT IS RIDICULOUS, AND WHAT IS
AMAZING TO ME IS THAT HE SAID
THIS TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.
THIS WASN'T JUST A COMMENT TO A
FRIEND.
HE SAID THIS TO THE
ASSOCIATE PRESS.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
>>OF COURSE IT IS.
ISN'T THAT
THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING, DONALD
TRUMP'S COMMERCIAL DOESN'T HAVE
ENOUGH WHITE PEOPLE IN IT, MAYBE
HE DOESN'T SUPPORT WHITE PEOPLE.
>>THAT IS ALWAYS THE VIBE I HAVE
GOTTEN FROM DONALD TRUMP.
>>HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW HOW
HE IS GOING TO ACT?
>>AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS
INTENDED TO I DON'T WANT TO SAY
PANDER, BUT IT WAS OBVIOUSLY
TUNED TOWARD A CERTAIN SECTION
OF THE POPULATION, PROBABLY A
MORE MIDWESTERN, FARM --
>>IT LOOKS LIKE IOWA AND NEW
HAMPSHIRE, BASICALLY.
>>AND THERE ARE PROBABLY SEVEN
BLACK PEOPLE IN IOWA.
>>THEY ARE 92% WHITE, I THINK.
>>AND NEW HAMPSHIRE IS
CLOSE TO THE SAME THING.
SO -- SORRY, I FORGOT MY POINT.
>>LET ME READ WHAT DAVID BROCK
SAID --
>> 
A SPOKESMAN FOR THE BERNIE
SANDERS CAMPAIGN RESPONDED BY
SAYING --
>> BY THE WAY, IT IS NOT JUST
HIM --
>>I THINK THE REASON THEY ARE
LAUNCHING THIS ATTACK HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
POSSIBILITY THAT DAVID BROCK
WATCHED THE AD AND THOUGHT,
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH BLACK
PEOPLE.
THE REASON THEY ARE
DOING IT IS BECAUSE HILLARY
CLINTON HAS BEEN EMBRACED FAR
MORE THAN BERNIE SANDERS BY
ESPECIALLY THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY, SHE HAS A HIGHER
PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTE, AND THEY
WANT TO USE THAT.
WHILE ALL THAT
IS TRUE, THE AD WAS VERY WHITE,
IT COULD BE BECAUSE THEY FILMED
IN PLACES THAT ARE 90% WHITE.
I
WOULD SAY PERSONALLY FOR ME, I
DON'T LIKE WHEN EVERY POLITICIAN
HAS TO PUT EVERY TYPE OF PERSON
-- THEY MAKE IT SO IT IS
PERFECTLY DISTRIBUTED.
YOU HAVE
A KID, AN OLD PERSON, SOMEBODY
WORKING IN AN OFFICE, SOMEBODY
WORKING A CONSTRUCTION SITE,
SOMEBODY WHO IS BLACK, SOMEBODY
WHO IS LESBIAN -- THEY DO ALL
THIS ARTIFICIAL SHIT.
THEY JUST
USED FOOTAGE FROM WHEN HE
WAS OUT THERE.
>>IT WOULD BE ODD IF THERE WERE
70 BLACK PEOPLE IN THAT AD.
THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN STRANGE TO ME.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN STRANGE,
CONSIDERING WHERE IT WAS.
THAT
WOULD HAVE STOOD OUT I THINK
MORE, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN
LIKE, THAT IS NOT EVEN THE
DEMOCRATIC MAKEUP.
YOU ARE
CLEARLY PANDERING NOW.
>>DAVID BROCK IS SAYING THAT STYLE
IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SUBSTANCE.
>>BASICALLY, YES.
IT IS SO MUCH
MORE IMPORTANT, AND YOU ARE A
RACIST IF YOU DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT.
>>HE HAS SHOWN GOOD JUDGMENT IN
THE PAST, DAVID BROCK.
REMEMBER
WHEN HE WAS PROSECUTING THE
CLINTONS?
WHEN HE WAS WRITING
THOSE STORIES THAT GOT PAULA
DAVIS --
>>I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, I WASN'T
FOLLOWING THE NEWS AT THAT POINT.
>> HE WAS FAMOUS FOR BEING ANTI-
CLINTONS.
>>APPARENTLY HE CAN EVOLVE.
>>I THINK FOX NEWS CAME ON THE
AIR AND IT MADE HIM SHIFT OR
SOMETHING, MAYBE HE GOT A GOOD
LOOK AT WHAT HE WAS DOING, AND I
THINK IN 2004 HE FOUNDED THAT
MEDIA MATTERS, WHICH IS A GREAT
WEBSITE.
SO HE DOES GOOD WORK,
BUT THIS IS SHITTY WORK.
IT IS
WEIRD WHEN YOU SEE LEFTIES ACT
LIKE UNDERHANDED POLITICIANS.
>>WHEN THE PRIMARY STARTS TO GET
COMPETITIVE, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE
THEY NEED TO AMPLIFY THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
CANDIDATES.
I SUPPORT BERNIE
SANDERS, AND I CAN POINT OUT A
COUPLE WAYS IN WHICH I THINK
HILLARY CLINTON WOULD BE A
DISASTER, BUT I'M NOT ONE OF THE
PEOPLE WHO SAYS SHE IS DEFINITELY
NOT A LIBERAL.
ON MANY ISSUES,
SHE IS SIGNIFICANTLY
PROGRESSIVE.
AND SHE WOULDN'T BE
TERRIBLE OVERALL.
THE ONE THING
I WANT TO SAY IS I THINK IT IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO REFERENCE
THE FACT THAT FOR DECADES AND
DECADES, BERNIE SANDERS HAS
SEEMED -- LIKE, IF 40 YEARS AGO
YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE CIVIL
RIGHTS MOVEMENT, YOU PROBABLY
CARED AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT EQUALITY.
BUT AT THE
SAME TIME HE HAS BEEN IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE FOR A LONG TIME, AND
HE HASN'T BEEN SURROUNDED BY
THAT MUCH RACIAL DIVERSITY.
SO
WHEN ORIGINALLY BLACK LIVES
MATTER WAS SHOWING UP AT HIS
RALLIES HE COULDN'T HANDLE IT
BETTER, AND I DOUBT EVERY DAY
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS ON HIS
MIND IS RACIAL EQUALITY.
BUT AT
THE SAME TIME, WHEN BLACK LIVES
MATTER PUT OUT THEIR CAMPAIGN
ZERO LIST OF REFORMS THEY
WANTED, HE WAS SCORED BY THEM AS
HAVING THE BEST SWEEP OF
POLICIES.
AND AT THE END OF THE
DAY, THE POLICIES AND IMPACT
THEY HAVE ON COMMUNITIES SHOULD
BE WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT.
NOT
JUST THE FACT THAT HISTORICALLY
YOUR FAMILY HAS BEEN WELL
RECEIVED BY A PARTICULAR RACIAL
GROUP.
>>AND ALSO, 2002 HE HAD A 93%
RATING FROM THE ACLU, 97% FROM
THE NAACP.
ALSO, I DON'T THINK
ANY CANDIDATE HANDED BLACK LIVES
MATTER WELL.
>>MARTIN O'MALLEY DIDN'T.
>>THEY WERE ALL VERY AWKWARD.
BECAUSE IT KIND OF CAME OUT OF
NOWHERE, SO I DON'T THINK BERNIE
SANDERS NECESSARILY HANDLED
IT ABNORMALLY BAD.
>>HE SORT OF JUST STOOD TO THE
SIDE.
>>HE LET THEM GO AHEAD AS
OPPOSED TO SHUTTING THEM DOWN.
I
DON'T THINK HILLARY HANDLED THEM
WELL, SHE MET WITH THEM LATER.
BUT I THINK HE HANDLED THEM AS
WELL AS ANY OF THEM.
>>AND
SHE BARELY GAVE THEM A MEETING.
YOU CAN TALK TO ME BACKSTAGE
STANDING UP.
>>IT WAS VERY AWKWARD.
AND SHE ALMOST SEEMED ANGRY
DURING THE MEETING, THAT
SHE HAD TO STAND THEREFORE IT.
>>AGAIN, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE
HONEST ATTACKS ON THE LEFT
DURING THE PRIMARIES?
IT SEEMS
LIKE EVERY TIME THERE IS A
BULLSHIT UNDERHANDED ATTACK
THAT SMACKS OF RIGHT-WING
POLITICS, IT IS COMING FROM THE
HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
>>AND IT IS WEIRD BECAUSE SHE IS
AHEAD.
>>BUT NOT AHEAD BY ENOUGH.
>>I WOULD ALMOST EXPECT THAT
FROM A NUMBERS STANDPOINT FROM
THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN, TO DO
SOMETHING TO GET ATTENTION,
SOMETHING TO PULL AHEAD.
WHAT IS SHE, NINE POINTS AHEAD
IN IOWA AND 25 NATIONALLY?
>>DEPENDING ON WHICH POLL.
>>IN THE 2007 CAMPAIGN I
DISTINCTLY REMEMBER KEITH
OLBERMANN CHASTISING, PLEADING,
AND SCREAMING AT THE HILLARY
CLINTON CAMPAIGN TO
STOP RACE BAITING.
AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT?
>>THERE WERE SOME ADS WHERE THEY
DARKENED THE SKIN OVER OBAMA.
THAT IS PRETTY TYPICAL.
>> AND SHE WAS SAYING THINGS
ABOUT WHY SHE WAS STAYING
IN, LIKE BOBBY KENNEDY WAS
ASSASSINATED IN JUNE.
COULD YOU NOT INVOKE AN
ASSASSINATION?
>> IT WAS THAT KIND OF THING.
HE'S BLACK, THEY WILL KILL HIM.
DON'T VOTE FOR HIM.
THAT IS THE
KIND OF SHIT SHE WAS DOING.
THAT
SHOULD DISQUALIFY HER.
SO WHY DO
YOU THINK SO MANY AFRICAN
AMERICANS SUPPORT HER AFTER SHE
PULLED THAT SHIT?
>> IT'S WEIRD.
I LIKE BERNIE
SANDERS, HIS IDEAS, BUT I DON'T
THINK HE IS AS ELECTABLE AS SHE
IS.
I THINK SHE IS A JUGGERNAUT
IN TERMS OF BEING ELECTABLE.
I
THINK SHE IS FAR MORE ELECTABLE
THAN SANDERS, SO I'M SUPPORTING
HER FOR THAT REASON.
BUT TO SAY
THAT -- BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH,
I WAS REPULSED BY HER FROM THAT
ENTIRE PERIOD OF CAMPAIGNING.
IT
WAS AWFUL.
BUT HER HUSBAND I
THINK RESONATED WITH THE BLACK
COMMUNITY IN THE 90S, AND I
THINK THAT IS A LOT -- ONE OF
THE KID'S MOTHERS WHO WAS KILLED
RECENTLY ENDORSED HER.
TRAYVON
MARTIN'S MOTHER JUST ENDORSED
HER. AND WHEN SHE HAD THAT
MEETING WITH THE BLACK LIVES
MATTER GROUP, SHE WAS VERY BLUNT
-- SHE WAS LIKE, I NEED YOU TO
GIVE ME LEGISLATION AND IDEAS SO
I CAN PRESENT IT TO PEOPLE SO I
CAN GET STUFF DONE.
SHE IS BLUNT
ABOUT IT, AND I THINK WHETHER IT
IS A REAL PASSION OF HERS OR
NOT, I THINK SHE CAN BE -- HAVE
HER FEET HELD TO THE FIRE ABOUT
DOING IT MORE.
AND I THINK SHE
IS A MORE POWERFUL --
THAT CLINTON NAME IS A POWERFUL
BRAND.
>>IT HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
>>THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT HER, NO
MORE SO THAN I THINK OBAMA HAD
ANY MAJOR LOVE FOR THE LGBTQ
COMMUNITY, HE JUST REALIZED
THAT WAS A PART OF HIS VOTING
BLOCK AND HE WENT AND GOT
STUFF DONE FOR HIM.
AND I THINK CLINTON WILL BE ABLE
TO GET A LOT OF STUFF DONE
FOR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE.
>> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE
OTHER RESPONSES TO THE BLACK
LIVES MATTER INITIAL
DISRUPTIONS, BECAUSE I HAD
FORGOTTEN O'MALLEY'S NOTORIOUS
COMMENT.
>>ALL LIVES MATTER?
>>THAT WAS THE WORST.
GOOD GUY,
BUT THAT WAS THE WORST.
AND
RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE THICK OF
ANOTHER OF THESE.
I NOTICED THIS
WEEK, ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE
SITES THAT I LOVE AND READ ALL
THE TIME, LIKE VOX, THEIR BIG
HEADLINE STORIES ARE ALWAYS A
TAKEDOWN OF BERNIE SANDERS.
AND
THEY HAD THIS ANALYSIS OF WHY
DOESN'T THE BERNIE SANDERS
SUPPORT REPARATIONS?
AND THEY
LEAVE OUT THE FACT THAT NONE OF
THE OTHER CANDIDATES DO.
MAYBE
BERNIE SANDERS IS WRONG ON THAT,
AS WRONG AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND FOR SOME REASON IT IS ONLY A
PROBLEM WHEN IT IS BERNIE
SANDERS.
>>IT IS SIMILAR TO THE
LGBT THING 15 OR 20
YEARS AGO WHEN EVEN DEMOCRATS
ACROSS THE BOARD WERE LIKE,
MARRIAGE SHOULD BE
BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN.
THEY WILL GET THERE, BUT THEY
ALL HAD THAT IN COMMON.
>>I CAN THINK OF ONE DEMOCRAT
WHO IS RIGHT ON THAT ISSUE.
>>BERNIE SANDERS.
>>YOU CAN VOTE FOR HIM IN IOWA
IF YOU WANT TO.
>>I REMEMBER A LETTER FROM A
LONG TIME AGO.
>>IN THE 70S HE WAS PRO-GAY.
>>WAS HE AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT
PUBLICLY THROUGHOUT THE 80S
AND 90S?
>>I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF
SPONSORING LEGISLATION, BUT THAT
WAS HIS POSITION AS STATED.
>>IT WAS DURING DON'T ASK,
DON'T TELL, HE GAVE SOME VERY
STRONG SPEECHES.
>>DID HE REALLY?
>>HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUT IN FRONT
ON IT, THAT IS THE WHOLE THING.
HE HAS BEEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
HISTORY, WHEREAS WHEN IT
COMES TO HISTORY, HILLARY
CLINTON HAS BEEN LATE.
>>THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS HAD
TO EVOLVE INTO IT.
