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>> Chris: AFTER MONTHS OF
VIRTUAL CAMPAIGNING, JOE BIDEN
APPEARS READY TO MAKE A CHANGE.
JOINING US NOW, BIDEN DEPUTY
CAMPAIGN MANAGER KATE
BEDINGFIELD.
WELCOME TO FOXMAN SUNDAY.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, CHRIS,
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> Chris: NOW THAT WE KNOW THE
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO
KENOSHA, WISCONSIN, ON TUESDAY,
THERE ARE REPORTS THAT
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL BE
MAKING A CAMPAIGN TRIP TOMORROW.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE HE’S GOING
AND WHAT THE MESSAGE WILL BE?
>> Kate: I WILL ANSWER THE
QUESTION, BUT FIRST I JUST WANT
TO GO BACK QUICKLY TO A COUPLE C
OF THINGS THAT LARA TRUMP JUST
SAID.
FIRST OF ALL, SHE SAID THAT
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN DID NOT
QUICKLY CONDEMN THE VIOLENCE
AROUND THESE PROTESTS.
THAT’S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.
HE CAME OUT RIGHT AFTER GEORGE
FLOYD WAS KILLED BACK IN MAY AND
SAID THERE’S NO PLACE FOR
VIOLENCE.
HE SAID FORCEFULLY AGAIN THIS
WEEK, SO THAT’S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
THE OTHER THING WE HEARD HER SAY
IS DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT
DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID.
WELL, IT PRESIDENT WORDS MATTER.
PART OF THE REASON THAT WE ARE
IN THE STATE OF CHAOS THAT WE
ARE IN IN THIS COUNTRY IS THAT
DONALD TRUMP HAS FAILED TO LEAD
ON THE CORONAVIRUS, HE FAILED TO
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY FROM THE
OUTSET, AND HE’S FAILED TO BE A
UNITER, HE’S FAILED TO LEAD AS
WE’VE BEEN GRAPPLING WITH THIS
MOMENT OF RACIAL INJUSTICE IN
THIS COUNTRY.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT FROM
OUTSET BECAUSE NEITHER OF THOSE
THINGS WERE TRUE.
TO YOUR QUESTION, SO YES, WHAT I
CAN SAY IS HE WILL ABSOLUTELY
HEAR JOE BIDEN OUT THIS WEEK
ADDRESSING THIS MOMENT IN THE
COUNTRY.
WE WILL HAVE DETAILS TO SHARE ON
THE LOCATION SHORTLY, BUT WHAT I
CAN TELL YOU IS THAT HE’S GOING
TO DO WHAT HE’S BEEN DOING
ACROSS THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER,
WHICH IS CALLING TOGETHER
PEOPLE, UNITING THE COUNTRY,
LEADING, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO
TAKE ON THIS MOMENT WITH A SENSE
OF PURPOSE.
HE SPENT DOING THAT, THE EXACT
OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE’VE BEEN
SEEING FROM TOM, WHO’S BEEN
TRYING TO INCITE VIOLENCE THIS
ENTIRE SUMMER.
>> Chris: JUST WAIT A SECOND.
I WILL GET TO VIOLENCE IN A
SECOND.
I’M THINKING IN REAL-TIME.
IF THE PRESIDENT IS INCITING
VIOLENCE?
>> Kate: YOU SAW DONALD TRUMP
GO TO NEW HAMPSHIRE ON FRIDAY
AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PROTESTERS,
MY ASS.
HE’S HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK AS A LEADER TO THIS NATION
THAT IS HURTING, TO SPEAK TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING, MORE
TRYING TO RIGHTLY SEEK JUSTICE
IN THIS MOMENT, BUT ALSO WERE
LOOKING AROUND ARE AFRAID.
>> Chris: YOU SAID INCITE
VIOLENCE.
>> Kate: ABSOLUTELY, HE HAS.
HE HAS ENCOURAGED HIS SUPPORTERS
TO GO OUT, TO BE AGGRESSIVE.
YOU HEARD, YOU WERE JUST
DISCUSSING WITH LARA TRUMP,
KELLYANNE CONWAY SAID IT
UNAPOLOGETICALLY, IT IS BETTER
FOR THIS PRESIDENT IS THERE IS
MORE ANARCHY, MORE VIOLENCE,
MORE CHAOS.
HE HAS AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TRY
TO FAN THE FLAMES HERE AND THAT
IS THE REASON WE ARE LIVING IN
DONALD TRUMP’S AMERICA.
HE IS TRYING TO MAKE THIS
ARGUMENT -- IS TRYING TO MAKE AN
ARGUMENT ABOUT JOE BIDEN’S
AMERICA POINTING TO THINGS THAT
ARE HAPPENING IN DONALD TRUMP’S
AMERICA.
>> Chris: ALL RIGHT, WE ARE
GOING TO GET BACK TO THE
VIOLENCE IN A MINUTE BUT I
WATCHED TALK ABOUT THIS QUESTION
OF CAMPAIGN TRAIL TRAVELING,
BECAUSE JUST ONE WEEK AGO
JOE BIDEN SAID THAT HE WAS GOING
TO CONTINUE HIS VERY LIMITED IN
PERSON CAMPAIGNING.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> CAN YOU WIN A PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION FROM HOME?
>> WE WILL.
WE’RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE
SCIENCE.
WHAT THE SCIENTISTS TELL US.
>> Chris: BUT ON THURSDAY, THE
PRESIDENT TALKED -- THE
VICE PRESIDENT RATHER, HE’S
GOING TO BE OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL, GOING TO GO TO AT LEAST
FOUR SWING STATES.
HAS THE SIGNS CHANGED THAT
DRAMATICALLY IN ONE WEEK?
>> Kate: THOSE TWO THINGS ARE
NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
ON THE OUTSET WE HAVE FOLLOWED
THE SIGNS, FOLLOW THE PUBLIC
HEALTH GUIDELINES, HELPED
SOCIALLY DIFFERENT, RESPONSIBLE
REFUNDS WITH PEOPLE WEARING
MASKS, PEOPLE TAKING THE
PROPER --
>> Chris: BUT ANSWER MY
QUESTION.
HE SAID A WEEK AGO THAT HE COULD
WIN THE ELECTION FROM HOME.
HE WAS ASKED THAT, HE SAID WE
WILL FOLLOW THE SIGNS, NOW IS
GOING TO GO ON A BIG CAMPAIGN
TRAIL.
>> Kate: HE SAID WE WILL WIN
BY FOLLOWING THE SIGNS.
THAT’S WHAT WE’VE DONE FROM THE
OUTSET, THAT’S WHAT WE WILL
CONTINUE TO DO.
THAT MEANS WE CAN HOLD SOCIALLY
DISTANT, RESPONSIBLE EVENTS,
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE HIM TRAVEL,
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE HIM IN
BATTLEGROUND STATES.
PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY HAVE
BEEN SHARING SACRIFICE SINCE THE
VIRUS SPIRALED OUT OF CONTROL
THE SPRING.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ATTENDING
FAMILY EVENTS, NOT BEEN
ATTENDING WEDDINGS.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE REALLY
BANDED TOGETHER AND SHARED
SACRIFICE TO MOVE US FORWARD IN
THIS CRISIS AND WE AS A CAMPAIGN
HAVE ALSO CHOSEN TO BEHAVE
RESPONSIBLY.
YOU DON’T SEE THAT FROM THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
CERTAINLY DIDN’T SEE IT LAST
WEEK ON THE SOUTH LAWN OF THE
WHITE HOUSE.
>> Chris: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
BEHAVING RESPONSIBLY.
THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED
THIS WEEK ABOUT HOW HE WAS
WILLING TO RESPOND TO THE
CORONAVIRUS, ESPECIALLY IF
THERE’S A SPIKE, AND HERE’S WHAT
HE HAD TO SAY, TAKE A LOOK.
>> I’D BE PREPARED TO DO
WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SAVE LIVES
BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET THE
COUNTRY MOVING UNTIL WE CONTROL
THE VIRUS.
>> IF THE SCIENTISTS SAY SHUT IT
DOWN...
>> I WOULD LISTEN TO THE
SCIENTISTS.
>> JOE BIDEN’S PLAN IS NOT A
SOLUTION TO THE VIRUS, BUT
RATHER IT’S A SURRENDER TO THE
VIRUS.
>> Chris: NOW, NO LEADING
SCIENTISTS THAT I’VE SEEN THIS
TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE
COUNTRY AGAIN, SO WHY WOULD THE
VICE PRESIDENT EVEN RAISE THAT
POSSIBILITY?
>> Kate: LET’S ASK OURSELVES
WHY WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE
WE WOULD HAVE TO, CHRIS, BECAUSE
DONALD TRUMP IS FAILED TO
CONTAIN THIS VIRUS.
FROM THE OUTSET TRUMPET ARE PUT
IN A COORDINATED PROGRAM,"
FEDERAL EFFORT.
TO MAKE SURE THAT NIECES --
>> Chris: THE QUESTION I’M
ASKING -- THE QUESTION I’M
ASKING IS A VERY SPECIFIC ONE.
IT ISN’T ABOUT TRUMP’S RESPONSE.
IT’S WHY IT’S JOE BIDEN TALKING
ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE COUNTRY.
THAT’S THE QUESTION I ASKED.
>> BUT IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S
RESPONSE, BECAUSE WHY ARE WE
HERE?
WHY ARE WE IN A POSITION WHERE
WE HAVE TO --
>> Chris: I’M ASKING WHY WOULD
HE TALK ABOUT -- WHY WOULD THE
VICE PRESIDENT TALK ABOUT
SHUTTING DOWN THE ECONOMY AGAIN?
>> Kate: BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP
IS NOT SUCCESSFULLY MANAGED THIS
CRISIS.
WE HAVE OVER 180,000 DEAD.
WE HAVE A VIRUS COURSING
UNCHECKED THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY
COUNTRY.
WITH PEOPLE UNABLE TO LIVE THEIR
LIVES NORMALLY.
PARENTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY
GRAPPLING WITH THE FACT THAT
THEY CAN’T SEND THEIR KIDS BACK
TO SCHOOL SAFELY.
THIS VIRUS HAS TURNED OUR LIVES
UPSIDE DOWN.
WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHEREIN
BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP FAILED TO
CONTAIN IT.
HE DID NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
FROM THE OUTSET, DID NOT PUT IN
PLACE A PLAN TO GET THE VIRUS
UNDER CONTROL AND AS A RESULT,
THIS IS THE CHAOS WE ARE LIVING
WITH.
>> Chris: OKAY, LET’S TALK
ABOUT THE VIOLENCE ISSUE.
YOU MAKE THE POINT, AND THE
VICE PRESIDENT MAKES THE POINT
THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN
DONALD TRUMP’S AMERICA, BUT THE
FACT IS, THE PRESIDENT’S ATTACKS
ON BIDEN ON THIS ISSUE ARE
GAINING SOME TRACTION.
I WANT TO PUT UP SOME NUMBERS.
IN A "WASHINGTON POST" POLL THIS
MONTH, 42% OF WHITE SUBURBAN
VOTERS SAID BIDEN WOULD MAKE
THEM LESS SAFE FROM CRIME, 22%
SAID HE WOULD MAKE THEM MORE
SAFE, THAT’S A 20-POINT DEFICIT.
HOW WAS THE VICE PRESIDENT GOING
TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT A LOT
OF SUBURBAN VOTERS, A LOT OF
VOTERS, ARE NOW HEARING AT LEAST
WITH THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING,
WHICH IS THAT HE’S GOING TO
PROTECT THEM AND MAY BE THE
PRESIDENT WON’T?
>> Kate: I THINK SUBURBAN
VOTERS ARE LOOKING AROUND AT
WHAT’S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY
AND LOOKING AT WHO’S IN THE
WHITE HOUSE AND THEY ARE SEEING
DONALD TRUMP.
THEY DON’T SEE JOE BIDEN, THIS
IS TRUMP’S AMERICA.
THE CHAOS THAT SUBURBAN VOTERS
ARE FEELING AND THAT VOTERS ALL
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY ARE FEELING
AS A RESULT OF DONALD TRUMP’S
FAILED LEADERSHIP.
WHAT JOE BIDEN IS GOING TO DO,
GOING TO CONTINUE TO LEAD,
CONTINUE TO WORK TO BRING US
TOGETHER.
THESE GOING TO PUT FORWARD
MEANINGFUL PLANS THAT ADDRESS
THE UNDERLYING ISSUES HERE,
PLANS THAT TACKLE SYSTEMIC
ECONOMIC INEQUALITY IN OUR
SOCIETY.
PLANS THAT WILL BRING BACK JOBS,
CREATE JOBS AND PLANS THAT WILL
GIVE THE VIRUS UNDER CONTROL,
WHICH IS THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT THING THAT WE HAVE TO
DO IN ORDER TO GET OUR ECONOMY
BACK ON TRACK.
SO YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN --
>> Chris: KATE, WE’RE RUNNING
OUT OF TIME, I JUST WANT TO ASK
YOU ONE LAST QUESTION AND IT
SPECIFICALLY GOES TO THE PLANS.
THE PRESIDENT IS GOING AFTER
JOE BIDEN AS A TOOL OF THE FAR
LEFT.
HERE’S WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO
SAY ON THAT.
>> BIDEN IS A TROJAN HORSE FOR
SOCIALISM.
IF JOE BIDEN DOESN’T HAVE THE
STRENGTH TO STAND UP TO WILD
EYED MARXISTS LIKE
BERNIE SANDERS AND HIS FELLOW
RADICALS, THEN HOW WAS HE EVER
GOING TO STAND UP FOR YOU?
>> Chris: IN FACT, THE BIDEN
AND BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN
AGREED ON A DETAILED SET OF
POLICIES AND HERE’S OUR
BERNIE SANDERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT
THAT.
>> I THINK WE HAMMERED OUT SOME
AGREEMENTS WHICH WILL MAKE, IN
MY VIEW, JOE BIDEN A VERY
PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT IF HE IN
FACT IMPLEMENTS WHAT HAS BEEN
WRITTEN.
>> Chris: AND FORMER
PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THIS
RECENTLY.
IF YOU LOOK AT JOE BIDEN’S GOALS
AND BERNIE SANDERS GOALS,
THEY’RE NOT THAT DIFFERENT FROM
A 40,000-FOOT LEVEL.
SO ARE OBAMA AND SANDERS WRONG
ABOUT WHERE JOE BIDEN WOULD TAKE
THE COUNTRY?
>> Kate: THE PROOF IS IN
JOE BIDEN’S PROPOSALS.
LOOK AT WHAT HE’S PROPOSED.
LOOK AT PROPOSALS THAT ARE GOING
TO BRING MANUFACTURING JOBS BACK
TO THIS COUNTRY, THAT ARE GOING
TO BUILD CLEAN ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREATE JOBS
THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE
CAREGIVING JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY.
LOOK AT HIS PROPOSALS, THE PROOF
WAS IN THE PROPOSALS AND THINK
THE PROOF IS ALSO IN HIS CAREER,
IN THE WAY THAT HE HAS WORKED
OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER
ACROSS THE AISLE.
HE’S WORKED SUCCESSFULLY WITH
REPUBLICANS, I MEAN, WHEN
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN
CAME INTO THE WHITE HOUSE,
JOE BIDEN GOT THREE REPUBLICAN
VOTES FOR THE RECOVERY ACT.
THE SINGLE BIGGEST CLEAN ENERGY
INVESTMENT IN THIS COUNTRY, THE
SINGLE BIGGEST INVESTMENT IN
BRINGING US BACK FROM THE BRINK
OF MERELY ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN
2009.
HE DID THAT BY REACHING ACROSS
THE AISLE, BEING ABLE TO GET
REPUBLICAN VOTES.
SOMETHING HE’S BEEN ABLE TO DO
HIS ENTIRE CAREER, SOMETHING HE
WILL BE ABLE TO DO AS PRESIDENT.
